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Samuel ACE and Luce LEWIS

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JWhitford

JWhitford Report 12 Jun 2019 12:43

Does anyone have access to the original (ie not Bishop's Transcripts) register for Oxwich? I am looking for a marriage 11 Feb 1793 between Samuel ACE and Luce LEWIS. I took note of the details many years ago, but I think I'm missing something. I believe the full name of Luce Lewis's father was recorded as John Lewis, but it's not on any of the on-line databases which I believe are all based on BTs.
Ever hopeful,
Jan Whitford
Australia

malyon

malyon Report 12 Jun 2019 13:01

Samuel Ace
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name:
Samuel Ace
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
10 Feb 1738
Christening Date (Original):
10 FEB 1738
Christening Place:
WELWICK,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name:
Peter Ace

malyon

malyon Report 12 Jun 2019 13:03

Samuel Ace
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
Name:
Samuel Ace
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
1793
Event Place:
Oxwich, Glamorgan, Wales
Spouse's Name:
Luce Lewis

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Jun 2019 13:04

Samuel
Last name Ace
Birth year -
Event year 1793
Banns year -
Marriage year 1793
Marriage date 11 Feb 1793
Marriage place Oxwich
Residence Oxwich
Spouse's first name(s) Luce
Spouse's last name Lewis
Spouse's birth year -
Spouse's residence Oxwich
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Event Marriage
Page 7

SAMUEL
Last name ACE
Birth year -
Marriage year 1793
Marriage day 11
Marriage month Feb
Marriage place OXWICH
Spouse's first name(s) LUCE
Spouse's last name LEWIS
Bride's parish OXWICH
Groom's parish OXWICH
Notes
after banns, Witnesses named, personal detail in the register
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Record set Glamorgan Marriage Index pre-1837

the image can be seen on find my past but no parents name mentioned witnesses john rees and richard williams

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Jun 2019 13:18



???
Samuel
Last name Ace
Age 89
Birth year 1735
Death year 1824
Burial year 1824
Burial date 16 Feb 1824
Church St Andrew
Denomination Anglican
Place Penrice
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Record set National

Lucy
Last name Ace
Age 68
Birth year 1772
Burial year 1840
Burial date 01 Sep 1840
Place Penrice
Parish Penrice
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Page 18

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Jun 2019 13:37

The image is on Findmypast. I wouldn't expect a father's name to be on any marriage record from that time.

The names of the witnesses are Richard William and John Rees.

John Rees's marriage is the one before Samuel Ace's on 3rd February and Samuel Ace was a witness to his marriage.

On the next page in 195 there is a marriage of a Daniel Ace to a Sarah Lewis who could possibly be related to your couple.

Samuel Ace was also a witness to another marriage on that page. Perhaps he had something to do with the church as you often get a church warden or other member of the church being a witness for a number of marriages.

EDIT - Samuel Ace was indeed a witness to quite a lot of marriages on the following pages after his own marriage.

Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Jun 2019 13:53

???????
Samuel Ace
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers
Name Samuel Ace
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 1730
Event Place Llanrhidian, Glamorgan, Wales
Father's Name Thoas
Mother's Name Mary
Citing this Record

"Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900," database

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Jun 2019 14:01

children
Ace Elizabeth 1793 — 1793 Glamorganshire Baptisms Oxwich, Glamorganshire, Wales


Ace Morgan 1795 — 1795 Glamorganshire Baptisms Oxwich, Glamorganshire, Wales

Ace Samuel 1797 — 1797 Glamorganshire Baptisms Penrice, Glamorganshire, Wales


just a maybe because of sons name


Luce Lewis
Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers
Name Luce Lewis
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 1760
Event Place Llangyfelach, Glamorgan, Wales
Father's Name Morgan
Citing this Record

"Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900," database,

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Jun 2019 14:05

This baptism would seem a more likely year of birth for someone marrying in 1793:-

First name(s) Samuel
Last name Ace
Birth year 1767
Birth date ? ? 1767
Baptism year 1767
Baptism date 05 Feb 1767
Place Reynoldston
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Jane
Page 41
Record set Glamorganshire Baptisms

Reynoldston is less than 4 miles from Oxwich.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 12 Jun 2019 14:16

Although the transcription of the baptism on 26th April 1795 says Morgan Ace - on the image it is actually for Margaret Ace, daughter of Samuel and Luce.

Kath. x

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Jun 2019 15:37

a tree on ancestry has this but no documentary evidence in support

samuel
irth
12 Oct 1763 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1763

(AGE)
Christening
12 Oct 1763 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1763
Baptism
1764 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1764

1
Birth of Brother Samuel Ace(1764–1766)
Abt. 1764

1764
Death of Brother Samuel Ace(1764–1766)
Abt. 1766 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1766

3
Birth of Brother Daniel Ace(1771–1838)
28 Aug 1771 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1771

7
Birth of Daughter Elizabeth Ace(1793–1883)
09 Jun 1793 • Penrice, Glamorgan, Wales

1793

29
Marriage
1793 • Oxwich, Glamorgan, Wales
LUCE LEWIS

(1768–)

1793

30
Birth of Son SAMUEL ACE(1794–1862)
1794 • Penrice, Glamorgan, Wales

1794

30
Birth of Daughter Margaret Ace(1796–)
1796 • Oxwich, Glamorgan, Wales

1796

32
Death of Father WILLIAM ACE(1726–1798)
1798 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1798

35
Death of Mother JANE (1731–1798)
1798 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1798

35
Death of Brother John Ace(1761–1814)
1814 • Oxwich, Glamorgan, Wales

1814

51
Death of Brother William Ace(1752–1824)
Abt. 1824 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

1824

61
Death of Sister Jane Ace(1759–1829)
03 Oct 1829 • Penmaen, Glamorgan, Wales

1829

65
Death of Sister Mary Ace(1754–1829)
3 Oct 1829 • Penrice, Glamorgan, Wales

1829

65
Death
1836 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

parents

WILLIAM ACE
1726–1798
Birth 3 SEP 1726 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
Death 1798 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales


JANE
1731–1798
Birth 1731 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
Death 1798 • Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales

samuels baptism with his siblings

William Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1752
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane

George Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1756
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane

Samuel Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1764
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane

Mary Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1754
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane

Samuel Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1767
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane

Jane Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1759
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William

Daniel Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1771
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane

John Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
baptism:
1761
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William
mother:
Jane



brother - Samuel Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
burial:
1766
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William

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George Ace

Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900
burial:
1773
Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
father:
William


William Ace
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 1727
Event Place Reynoldston, Glamorgan, Wales
Father's Name William
Mother's Name Elizabeth
Citing this Record

"Wales, Glamorgan Parish Registers, 1558-1900," database,


JWhitford

JWhitford Report 16 Aug 2019 05:23

A much delayed thank you to you all ( I could't remember which message board I'd used). I appreciate the trouble you took, Maddie and Kathleen. It's the father of Luce Lewis in whom I'm interested- just can't find him and I can't understand where the name of John Lewis came from. I had spent the day looking at the parish registers, and it looks as if I was in a rush when I took the notes - probably the place was closing. Just another loose end.
Thanks again,
Jan

JWhitford

JWhitford Report 16 Aug 2019 05:23

A much delayed thank you to you all ( I could't remember which message board I'd used). I appreciate the trouble you took, Maddie and Kathleen. It's the father of Luce Lewis in whom I'm interested- just can't find him and I can't understand where the name of John Lewis came from. I had spent the day looking at the parish registers, and it looks as if I was in a rush when I took the notes - probably the place was closing. Just another loose end.
Thanks again,
Jan

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Aug 2019 09:59

For future reference, you don’t have to remember which board you posted on - just click on ‘My threads’