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Baptism: 20 May 1849 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Thomas Alexander Smith - [Child] of Henry Smith & Elizabeth
Abode: John St North
Occupation: Warehouseman
Baptised by: J. Wilson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1850, Page 139, Entry 1105
Source: LDS Film 93988

SMITH, THOMAS ALEXANDER mms PARK
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in THE PRESTON UNION Volume 21 Page 728

So Elizabeth is Fanny's paternal grandmother.

Both the 1881 and 1891 censuses you found are correct, Susan.

Record Transcription:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

35, Rutland Street, Worsley, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Smith Head Married Male 32 1849 Carter Preston, Lancashire, England
Sarah M Smith Wife Married Female 33 1848 Wife Of Carter Smethcott, Shropshire, England
Sarah E Smith Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
James Smith Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
Henrietta M Smith Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
Henry A Smith Son Single Male 0 1881 - Pendlebury, Lancashire, England
William Nelson Boarder Widower Male 54 1827 Labourer In Timberyard Farrington, Lancashire, England

Henry Smith
in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Henry Smith
Gender: Male
Age: of Full Age
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 May 1843
Parish: Leyland, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Park
Spouse Age: of Full Age
Father: James Smith
Register Type: Parish Register

Record Transcription:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Manchester Road, Clifton, Barton upon Irwell, Lancashire, England


Thomas Smith

Record: Census Record

Location: Lancashire, England

Year of census: 1901

Thomas Smith

Record: Census Record

Location: Lancashire, England

Year of census: 1901

Thomas Smith

Record: Census Record

Location: Lancashire, England

Year of census: 1901
Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas A Smith Head Widower Male 41 1850 Carter Mineral Water Works Lancashire, England
Fanny Smith Daughter Single Female 20 1871 Nurse Domestic Servant Shropshire, England
Sarah E Smith Daughter Single Female 18 1873 Carder In Cotton Mill Lancashire, England
James Smith Son Single Male 16 1875 Coal Miner Lancashire, England
Henrietta M Smith Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Lancashire, England
Henry Smith Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Lancashire, England
Thomas H Smith Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Lancashire, England

Elizabeth Smith
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Pendlebury
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: EnglandRegistration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 230
Piece: 2907
Folio: 76
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 42 - weaving master, Preston
Elizabeth Smith 38
William Smith 17
James Smith 14
Thomas Smith 11
John Smith 8
Samuel H Smith 5
Mary Ann A Smith 3
Henriette Smith 10/12


Elizabeth's marriage:


Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
Park Elizabeth Chorley 21 194
SMITH Henry Chorley 21 194

1881 for our reference:


Fanny Smith
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Fanny Smith
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Pendlebury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 426 Bolton Rd
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Salford
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors:
Piece: 3950
Folio: 120
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Smith 57
William Smith 37
Samuel H. Smith 25
Mary A. A. Smith 23
Albert Smith 16
Fanny Smith 10


Births of Elizabeth's children:

SMITH, SAMUEL HENRY mms PARK
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in BURY LANCASHIRE Volume 08C Page 421

SMITH, ALBERT EDWARD VICTOR mms PARK
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 6

SMITH, MARY ANN mms PARK
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 20

William possibly one of these ??

PARK, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in THE PRESTON UNION Volume 21 Page 621
PARK, WILLIAM JOSEPH -
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in THE PRESTON UNION Volume 21 Page 643

As Sarah and Thomas married in Salford (if I've posted the right marriage above), this looks like Sarah in 1871 - had she and Thomas separated ?

Picklescott is 3 miles from Church Stretton


Sarah M Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Sarah M Smith
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Pecklescoot, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lukes Weasle
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 4011
Folio: 28
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Emil Reiss 35
Frances Reiss 33
Annie Reiss 8
Henry Reiss 6
Pauline Reiss 3
James A Reiss 4 Months
James A Wilding 30
Mary A Clartle 33
Mary Oaks 28
Mary J Birks 50
Eliza Arthur 32
Elizabeth Stanton 24
Annia Bennett 19
Sarah M Smith 22 - married, wet nurse
Alice Iliffe 18

Sarah Martha's birth:

Births Sep 1846 (>99%)
Bromley Sarah Martha Church Stretton 18 40


and possibly her death ??

Deaths Mar 1891 (>99%)
Smith Sarah Martha 44 Barton I. 8c 453

?? Smethcott is in Church Stretton reg district.


Fanny Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Fanny Smith
Age: 4 Months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Smethcott, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Smethcott
Town: Picklescott
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Church Stretton
Sub-registration district: Church Stretton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 2735
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Brombey 70 - mistranscription of Bromley
Sarah Brombey 69
Edmund Brombey 21
Fanny Smith 4 Months

The 1870 Shropshire baptism posted by safc looks good.

Marriage of the parents ??

Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
BROMLEY Sarah Martha Salford 8d 113
Smith Thomas Alexander Salford 8d 113

So Fanny 's birth:

SMITH, FANNY mms BROMLEY
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in CHURCH STRETTON Volume 06A Page 552

and a sister ??: EDIT: No, not unless born before marriage.

SMITH, ANNA CAROLINE BRANDT mms BROMLEY
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in CAISTOR Volume 07A Page 598

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Chapel Street, Weobley, Herefordshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Seale Head - Male 45 1826 - Herefordshire, England
Mary A Seale Daughter - Female 21 1850 - Herefordshire, England
Annie E Seale Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Herefordshire, England
William Hy Seale Son - Male 3 1868 - Herefordshire, England
Olive Seale Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Herefordshire, England

Thomas listed as a Widower

Olive's birth not found on GRO to confirm mmn - reported

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1870 (>99%)
SEALE Olive Weobly 6a 505

but here is Annie's

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SEALE, ANNE ELIZABETH PALMER
GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WEOBLEY Volume 06A Page 533

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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hereford Street, Weobley, Herefordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Seale Head Married Male 34 1827 Labourer Weobley, Herefordshire, England
Ann Seale Wife Married Female 28 1833 Dressmaker -
Mary Ann Seale Daughter - Female 9 1852 Scholar Weobley, Herefordshire, England


Ann b Presteigne, Radnorshire (otherwise Llanandras) partly in Radnor, partly in Herefordshire

??
Her death - not on GRO - reported
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1870 (>99%)
Seale Ann 38 Leominster 6a 421

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??
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%)
ADAMS Ann Leominster 6a 717
Jones John Leominster 6a 717
Palmer Ann Leominster 6a 717
Seale Thomas Leominster 6a 717

Record Transcription:
Shropshire Baptisms

First name(s) Fanny
Last name Smith
Birth year -
Baptism year 1870
Baptism date 21 Nov 1870
Denomination Anglican
Place Smethcott
Father's first name(s) Thomas Alexander
Mother's first name(s) Sarah Martha
Mother's last name -
Residence -
County Shropshire
Register type Baptism
Register date range 1813-1876
Archive reference P263/A/2/1
Page 95
Record set Shropshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Great Britain, England

this fanny smith baptised park gate or park sale

Fanny and Ellinor and family in 1871 - so doesn't look like your Fanny.:

Fanny Smith
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Fanny Smith
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry Smith
Mother's name: Elisa Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: St Julian
Ecclesiastical parish: St Julian
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 196
Piece: 2772
Folio: 43
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 41
Elisa Smith 34
Elanor Smith 7
John Smith 13
Philip Smith 10
Herbert Smith 5
Henrietta Smith 3
Fanny Smith 1
Ann Febbire 15 - servant

(Plus several boarders )



Fanny Smith
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Fanny Smith
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Henry Smith
Mother: Eliza Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Shrewsbury St Chad
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address: 26 Frankwell
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Atcham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2653
Folio: 142
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 52
Eliza Smith 44
Philip Stubbs 20
Eleanor Stubbs 19
Henrietta Smith 13
Fanny Smith 11
Edith Smith 9
Sarah Smith 5

? Henry's birth reg - under SCale

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SCALE, WILLIAM HENRY PALMER
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in WEOBLEY Volume 06A Page 489

If you're following the Palmer idea for mmm

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SMITH, FANNY PALMER
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in SHREWSBURY Volume 06A Page 655

?? then it doesn't fit with the DoB from the 1939 register - year sometimes given wrongly by folks, but usually the day and month correct (original looks like 18 Nov '70)

Fanny (Fannie) Seale's life in 1939
82 Hawkshead Street, Southport C.B., Lancashire, England

Buck household
(5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Alfred Buck 23 Jul 1906 Male Weighing Machine Repa Married 104 1
Lillian P Farrell (Buck) 01 Jun 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 104 2
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
Nicholas Buck 08 Mar 1877 Male Railway Engine Dre Widowed 104 4
Fanny (Fannie) Seale 18 Nov 1870 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Widowed 104 5
Ref: RG101/4649I/008/35 Letter Code: NQBX
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Ellinor's parents??

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
PALMER Eliza Atcham 6a 1161
STUBBS Charles Atcham 6a 1161


Charles's death??

STUBBS, CHARLES 45
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in SHREWSBURY Volume 06A Page 425


Eliza's remarriage ( but not to a Thomas ) ????

Marriages Mar 1866 (>99%)
SMITH Henry Shrewsbury 6a 907
STUBBS Eliza Shrewsbury 6a 907

Birth of the Fanny in 1891 with Ellinor:


SMITH, FANNY mms PALMER
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in SHREWSBURY Volume 06A Page 655

STUBBS, ELLINOR JANE mms PALMER
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 623

You found her in the 1891 census with Fanny. (Or at least with some Fanny Smith or other!)