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18 Apr 2019 15:59 |
CAN ANY ONE HELP ME WITH ANY INFO.ON JOSEPH MCGINNES,b1858.AND MARGARET MCGINNES( NEE.SHARKEY)b1858. BOTH FROM GREENOCK,SCOTLAND
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greyghost
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18 Apr 2019 16:02 |
Welcome to the boards John.
When you say "any information" what have you got already and where have you searched.
Presumably you got back to them somehow?
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Maddie
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18 Apr 2019 16:04 |
in the 1901 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census No Image Text-only collection
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Name: Joseph Mcginnes Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret Mcginnes Gender: Male Where born: Renfrew, greenock co Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock East Civil Parish: Greenock Middle County: Renfrewshire Address: 7 Market St Occupation: Quay Labourer ED: 7 Household schedule number: 43 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1901_193 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Mcginnes 43 Margaret Mcginnes 43 Margaret Mcginnes 27 John Mcginnes 13 Joseph Mcginnes 9
in the 1891 Scotland Census 1891 Scotland Census No Image Text-only collection
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Name: Joseph McGinnes Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Margaret McGinnes Gender: Male Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock East Civil Parish: Greenock Middle Town: Greenock County: Renfrewshire Address: 7 Market St Occupation: General Labourer ED: 7 Household schedule number: 31 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_179 Household Members: Name Age Joseph McGinnes 30 Margaret McGinnes 32 Mary McGinnes 12 John McGinnes 4 Mary McGinnes 69 John McGinnes 22
in the 1881 Scotland Census 1881 Scotland Census No Image Text-only collection
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Name: Joseph McGinnis Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relationship: Son Father's name: Barnerd McGinnis Mother's name: Mary McGinnis Gender: Male Where born: Greenock, Renfrew Shire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock Middle Civil Parish: Greenock Middle County: Renfrewshire Address: Langwell Close 4th Stair Occupation: Quay Labour ED: 6 Household schedule number: 21 Line: 3 Roll: cssct1881_164 Household Members: Name Age Barnerd McGinnis 65 Mary McGinnis 60 Joseph McGinnis 23 Johr McGinnis 13 Sam Dallas 4
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greyghost
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18 Apr 2019 16:07 |
Scotland's People shows the marriage to be in 1881 - the site is free to search for results as below (you need to register first). Credits cost £7.50 for 30 and you can look at the full detail from the marriage certificate for 6 credits
That should show the Parents names of both parties including mmn
Note spelling of her surname
Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View
MCGINNES JOSEPH SHARKIE MARGARET 1881 564/3 253 Greenock Old or West
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Maddie
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18 Apr 2019 16:07 |
Name: Joseph Mcginnes Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 Aug 1858 Birth Place: Middle OR New Parish,Greenock,Renfrew,Scotland Father: Bernard Mcginnes Mother: Mary Johnston FHL Film Number: 6035516
in the 1861 Scotland Census 1861 Scotland Census No Image Text-only collection
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Name: Joseph Mcginnes Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relationship: Son Mother's name: Mary Mcginnes Gender: Male Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock Middle Civil Parish: Greenock Middle County: Renfrewshire Address: 6 Highland Close ED: 5 Household schedule number: 9 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1861_76 Household Members: Name Age Mary Mcginnes 38 Joseph Mcginnes 2
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greyghost
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18 Apr 2019 16:15 |
FMP version of census. You can only see full original details via SP site and 1911 census is ONLY on SP
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Market Street, Middle Church, East Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph McGinnes Head Married Male 30 1861 General Labourer Renfrewshire, Scotland Margaret McGinnes Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Renfrewshire, Scotland Mary McGinnes Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1879 Scholar Renfrewshire, Scotland John McGinnes Son Unmarried Male 4 1887 - Renfrewshire, Scotland Mary McGinnes Grandmother Widow Female 69 1822 - Renfrewshire, Scotland John McGinnes Brother Unmarried Male 22 1869 Labourer Renfrewshire, Scotland
-------------------- 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 7, Market Street, Greenock, Greenock East, Renfrewshire, Scotland
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph McGinnes Head Married Male 43 1858 Quay Labourer Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Margaret McGinnes Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Margaret McGinnes Daughter Single Female 21 1880 Flax Mill Worker Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland John McGinnes Son - Male 13 1888 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Joseph McGinnes Son - Male 9 1892 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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ErikaH
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18 Apr 2019 16:15 |
Death - found using FREE search on Scotlands people website
MCGINNES MARGARET 48 1906 564/2 344 Greenock West
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ErikaH
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18 Apr 2019 16:18 |
MCGINNES JOSEPH 76 1935 564/2 2 Greenock West
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Maddie
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18 Apr 2019 16:27 |
???? Bernard Last name McGinnis Supplied full name Bernard McGinnis Address - Year 1835 Role Accused Description Bernard McGinnis Crime Theft Crime location - Court High Court, Glasgow Court county Lanarkshire Verdict Not called Link Collection Trial Papers Relating To Bernard Mcginnis Record type High Court Trial Papers Archive reference JC26/1835/448 Archive National Records of Scotland
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John
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18 Apr 2019 17:00 |
thank you all fo you`r help.
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alviegal
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19 Apr 2019 12:26 |
Quite a few death notices here for McGinnis' including Margaret Sharkey. It is a downloadable document and the names are from page 682. They are newspaper articles.
https://www.inverclyde.gov.uk/community-life-and-leisure/heritage/family-history/intimations-surname-index
Then click on Intimations Surnames M-1 (PDF, 15.2MB)
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John
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4 Dec 2019 16:13 |
thank you everyone for all the info.It has been very helpful, I am now stuck at Bernard McGinnes.b.1916. and Mary Johnston.b.1823 my g. g. granparents. I cant find any info on any of the other sites, also my naesake John McGines.b.1868.son of bernard and mary. thank you all.
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ErikaH
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4 Dec 2019 16:16 |
What 'other' sites have you looked at?
And your dates don't make sense, I'm afraid
Where was John born?
EDITED
I see that the info is posted on here on various censuses
What do you actually wish us to look for?
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ErikaH
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4 Dec 2019 16:30 |
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Taylors Close, 3, Middle Parish Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Mary McGuines Head Married Female 42 1829 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland Joseph McGuines Son - Male 12 1859 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland John McGuines Son - Male 4 1867 - Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland
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ArgyllGran
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4 Dec 2019 16:36 |
1881 census above shows Mary born Greenock, and Bernard born Glasgow.
Mary Mcginnes in the 1861 Scotland Census Name: Mary Mcginnes Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Greenock, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 564/1 Registration district: Greenock Middle Civil Parish: Greenock Middle County: Renfrewshire Address: 6 Highland Close ED: 5 Household schedule number: 9 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1861_76 Household Members: Name Age Mary Mcginnes 38 Joseph Mcginnes 2
Mary Johnston in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: Mary Johnston Gender: Female Spouse: Bernard Mcginnes Child: Joseph Mcginnes
EDIT: Just noticed, above baptism already posted by Maddie.
Can't see their marriage.
There's a marriage of a Bernard McWilliams and Mary Anne Johnston in Glasgow in 1845 - but that's not them, mistranscribed or misheard. That couple are together in 1851, both born in Ireland.
Bernard Mcwilliams in the 1851 Scotland Census Name: Bernard Mcwilliams Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1821 Relationship: Head Spouse: Mary Ann Mcwilliams Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Parish Number: 644/1 Civil Parish: Glasgow St Mungo County: Lanarkshire Address: 65 Drygate Occupation: Rail Lab ED: 7 Page: 19 Household schedule number: 92 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1851_158 Household Members: Name Age Bernard Mcwilliams 30 Mary Ann Mcwilliams 30
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rootgatherer
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4 Dec 2019 18:44 |
If this is Bernard's death, it will name his parents and f the informant knew the details.
MCGINNESS BERNARD 68 1884 567/2 31 Gourock
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rootgatherer
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4 Dec 2019 18:52 |
Same for Mary. Buy credits for Scotlandspeople and look at the death registrations.
Other than census records (already shown above), what other information do you expect to find please?
JOHNSTON MARY 70 1894 564/1 143 Greenock East
MCGINNES MARY 70 1894 564/1 143 Greenock East
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John
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7 Dec 2019 17:49 |
mary mcginnes/johnston. spot on,now have her parents.still struggling with bernard,may have wrong birth date,thank`s a lot.
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ErikaH
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7 Dec 2019 18:09 |
He was shown as 65 on 1881 census, so why do you think you have the wrong date? You have the wrong century, but one assumes that was a typing error.
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rootgatherer
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7 Dec 2019 21:19 |
Is that not Bernard's death posted above ve Mary's?
The one Gourock to n 1884, aged 68.
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