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Frederick james gray b 1901 Doncaster. I am just after his date of birth Please. jan/feb/march

Thanks

Jane

Birthplaces aren't recorded on 1939 register. No way of knowing which - if any - of the records is his

Who did he marry?

If he died after 1969, the DOB will be on the record

No Idea

I was just going through the deaths and found two so I was just trying to see if I could work out which one is mine.:

He possibly died in 1975 sept if he was born on 01/02/1901 and died in Portsmouth

if he was born 31/03/1901 Then he died in N Dorset in 1979

His father's Probate (1936) was to the widow.

Frederick was two months old on 1901 census

If he'd been born 31/03/1901 his birth would have been registered in AMJ qtr

So according to Freebmd he was born in the Mar quarter which must mean he was born on 1/02//1901 and died in Portsmouth. Which means he was probably in the Navy,

If this is my relative it will be such a shame because I live near to Portsmouth,

Sorry, no, it doesn't necessarily follow that the Portsmouth death is for the one born in Doncaster.

There is no 'must' about anything until you have documentation

I Know. Thanks for your help

Jane

Did he marry ?

If so ,and his wife was still alive in 1939 they may show together on the register

Thanks for helping me but I do not know if he married. In fact I don't know anything about him yet.

All the best

Jane

The 1901 census was taken 31 March. He wouldn't be listed as 2 months old if he was born that day so likely he's the one born Feb. 1st.

But Margaret he could have been 2 months and x amount of days too

Really the answer is to get his birth cert

A PDF copy is the cheapest way

Thanks ladies. Ye i thinki will order the pdf copy. What information do you get on this.

It's exactly the same as a "proper" full-price copy, except that it can't be used for legal purposes.
It's an image of the same document.

It'll tell you his father's name, if known.

You say you don't know anything about him.
But how did you come across him? He must be linked somehow to someone else whom you do know about - you haven't plucked him from thin air.


Oh, I see, this is the one you're talking about, so you know his father's name, so the birth cert will confirm if that's the correct birth;

Frederick James Gray
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Frederick James Gray
Age: 2/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Arthur Walter Gray
Mother: Edith Gray
Birth Place: Wheatley, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wheatley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Wheatley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Doncaster
Sub-registration district: Bawtry
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 4416
Folio: 19
Page Number: 29
Household schedule number: 211
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Walter Gray 22
Edith Gray 25
Frederick James Gray 2/12

Thanks ArgyllGran.

I take it you can order them from the GRO site? I had a quick look on there but could not see how to do it. I only looked at the first page of the order form so maybe you get the choice later on .

Thanks for helping me

Jane

A tree on Ancestry says this is his marriage:

Marriages Sep 1921 (>99%)
Gray Frederick J Saunders Lambeth 1d 716
Saunders Elsie Gray Lambeth 1d 716

BUT it's wrong, because the marriage cert (shown in the tree) says that man's father was James, and was a plater.

Yes, order from the GRO site - you choose the option on the second page of the order form - the page where you put in the person's name and the reference numbers. The option is near the bottom of the "Service Options" section.

Thanks.

All the best

Jane

1939 for the one who died in Portsmouth?

16 Beauchamp Avenue, Royal Leamington Spa M.B., Warwickshire, England

John E Linford 24 Oct 1894 Male Bank Official (Securities) Married 114 1
Ernest M Linford 28 Mar 1896 Male Christian Science Practitioner Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 114 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Frederick J Gray 01 Feb 1901 Male Bank Official (Securities) Married 114 4
Athel B Saffrey 18 Dec 1918 Female Lady Clerk (Bank) Single 114 5
Dorothy J P Sallaway (Bonham) 10 Feb 1920 Female Lady Clerk (Bank) Single 114 6

Thank you very much for that information. If this is my Frederick Gray and it looks likely its him then he is moving around the country a bit. I wonder where his wife is, if she is not living at this address?

All the best

Jane.

One below from FMP (Find My Past)

Chris :)

Yorkshire Baptisms
First name(s) Frederick James
Last name Grey
Birth year 1901
Birth date 01 Feb 1901
Baptism year 1901
Baptism date 27 Mar 1901
Baptism place Doncaster, Wheatley, St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Arthur Walter (occ. Policeman)
Mother's first name(s) Edith
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive Doncaster Archives
Archive reference P34-1-A1
Page 122
Record set Yorkshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
(Abode, 66, Queens Road)