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Death of Margrethe Caroline Johns

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Phillip

Phillip Report 1 Apr 2019 22:44

Hi - I apologise if this is easily solvable!

Margrethe Caroline Clausen was born 28 Jan 1901 - she married George Johns in 1920 in Plymouth and had four children in Toxteth/Liverpool between 1921 and 1930;

Olga, Patricia, Rita, Eric and John.

I have no idea when she died.

Phil

Thank you

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Apr 2019 23:04

She was on the 1939 register as Crausen (Johns) Household (3 People)
65 Hardinge Road , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England


Margaret (Margrethe Kerine) Crausen (Johns) 28 Feb 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 47 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Rambling

Rambling Report 1 Apr 2019 23:41

Do you know where her husband died?

Phillip

Phillip Report 1 Apr 2019 23:48

Unfortunately I don't.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Apr 2019 00:02

I looked at the image of the 1939 Register on FMP ...............

It IS Clausen on the image, though a bit hard to read


The name change from Margaret Johns to Margrethe Clausen was made 22-4-56

Other letters/numbers entered at that date were CR283 MX47

In the extreme right hand column is written, I think! .......... See Car Ch

I have no idea what that means.

The implication there is that she went back to her own name, perhaps after a divorce????

Rambling

Rambling Report 2 Apr 2019 00:13

Sylvia I was just looking at that, but can't see a marriage or death for either name

It's not the marriage I posted ( 1949) , have removed as may still be living

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Apr 2019 00:18

???????????????

Marriages Sep 1952 (>99%)
Clausen Margarete E C Samson Melton M 3a 2137
SAMSON Gerard J CLAUSEN Melton M. 3a 2137

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Apr 2019 00:25


England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) GERARD JOHN
Last name SAMSON
Gender Male
Birth day 27
Birth month 4
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1990
District Melton Mowbray
Register number 390
County Leicestershire
Volume 6
Page 2513
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Apr 2019 00:34

Strange ..........

a Gerard J Samson married a Kathleen Moffat in 1958 in Melton Mowbray


??? same man

In that case did Margareta divorce again??

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Apr 2019 00:43

?????????

from FMP

This is NOT her ................ I though it might be a mis-spelling error.

Repeat ......... IT IS NOT HER

Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960

First name(s) Margrethe
Last name Samsonsen
Gender Female
Birth year 1901
Birth day 1
Birth month 4
Marital status M
Occupation HOUSEWIFE
Departure year 1955
Departure day 31
Departure month 3
Departure port Plymouth
Destination port Tenerife
Destination TENERIFE
Country Canary Islands
Destination country Canary Islands
Ship name Meteor
City PLYMOUTH
Ship destination port TENERIFE
Ship destination country CANARY ISLANDS
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960


travelling with Rasmus Samsonen born 28-2-1897

Both citizens of Norway.


leaving up in case anyone else runs across the name.

Phillip

Phillip Report 2 Apr 2019 08:32

Thank you so much for all your efforts.................up to me to find out more info I think!!!!

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Apr 2019 09:09

She's on the electoral register in Liverpool with George E Johns until at least 1950.

After that she turns up in Edmonton in 1953 under Margrethe Johns.

From1957 she's still at the same address in Edmonton listed as Margrethe Clausen. This is her with daughter Olga:

1961 electoral register:

12 Berkeley Gardens, Edmonton.
Lionel F B Smith
Olga M K Smith
Margrethe Clausen
----------------------------

Margrethe is still at the same address in 1964

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Apr 2019 09:15

Her death must have been picked up for the 1939 record to be open for her

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Apr 2019 09:24

? she was born in 1901, so automatically open

Phillip

Phillip Report 2 Apr 2019 09:40

Amazing....how can I see the Canadian record?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 2 Apr 2019 09:46

Canadian? You mean the electoral register? - this is Edmonton, London/ Middlesex UK.

The electoral registers are on Ancestry

Phillip

Phillip Report 2 Apr 2019 10:09

What a dope. ..sorry.

I didn't realise electoral registers were available.

Thank you so much for this brilliant help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2019 10:40

You say in your original post that she had 4 children, but have listed five names

Phillip

Phillip Report 2 Apr 2019 10:48

Sorry. It is 5. Twins I think, the last two.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Apr 2019 10:49

Is this one of the twins?

Deaths Mar 1930 (>99%)
Johns Eric 0 Liverpool 8b 281