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1861 Census in Camborne has John Rodda, 32, Copper Miner, his wife Rose (Rosamond, born Doddiscombsleigh) 30 and children Arabella Mary, 8 (born Doddiscombsleigh), Elizabeth 4 born Camborne, John 2 born Camborne and Sarah Jane, 3 months born Camborne.

No trace of family in 1871 or subsequent ones................except Arabella marries John Wallser on 7 October 1871 in Kingsbridge, Devon.

There is then a very unfortunate set of happenings. Husband John dies in 1861.

Rosamond, together with her children, ended up in the workhouse in 1862 and she was also imprisoned for running, what could only be described as, a brothel.

One of her children, John, died in 1862, leaving Elizabeth, Sarah Jane and Arabella.

Arabella is accounted for, as she marries John Wallser in 1871.

No sign of the others - could Rosamond have re-married? She was known as Rose and there is a marriage for a Rosetta in 1862.

Any help would be appreciated.

from an ancestry tree for Sarah Jane

Spouse: James McClelland DeHaven
Father: John Eustice Rodda
Mother: Rosamund Butt
Children: Carl
Birth: 1861 Camborne Cornwall England
Death: 11/11/1904 Altoona Blair Pennsylvania USA
Residence: 1861 Camborne Cornwall England

Children

Ada M. DeHaven 1883–1962

Myrtle "Minnie" DeHaven 1884–1916

Essie DeHaven 1898–1901

Carl DeHaven –1896

also possible death:-

Name Sarah Jane Rodda
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1877
Registration District Penzance
County Cornwall
Event Place Penzance, Cornwall, England
Volume 5C
Page 227
Affiliate Line Number 357

.......NO you can eliminate this one as she was too young to be your girl

RODDA, SARAH JANE 0
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in PENZANCE Volume 05C Page 227

Above family in 1900

Name Sarah J Dehaven
Event Type Census
Event Year 1900
Event Place Precinct 2 Altoona city Ward 8, Blair, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender Female
Age 38
Marital Status Married
Race White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Number of Living Children 3
Years Married 18
Birth Date Aug 1862
Birthplace England
Marriage Year (Estimated) 1882
Father's Birthplace England
Mother's Birthplace England
Mother of how many children 5
Household Role Sex Age
Birthplace
James Dehaven Head M 39 Pennsylvania
Sarah J Dehaven Wife F 38 England
Ada M Dehaven Daughter F 17 Pennsylvania
Minnie M Dehaven Daughter F 16 Pennsylvania
Essie L Dehaven Daughter F 2 Pennsylvania

same family in 1910

Name: James Dehaven
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Altoona Ward 8, Blair, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 48
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race: White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1862
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 1
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
James Dehaven Head Male 48 Pennsylvania
Lida Dehaven Wife Female 43 Illinois
John Trink Stepson Male 14 Pennsylvania
Helen Trink Stepdaughter Female 12 Pennsylvania
Rictor Trink Stepson Male 10 Pennsylvania
Marion Dehaven Daughter Female 2 Pennsylvania
Ada Dehaven Daughter Female 26 Pennsylvania

1861 census.


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Name:
***Rosetta Rodda
Age:
18***
Estimated birth year:
1843
Relation:
Sister-in-law
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Madron, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish:
Penzance
Ecclesiastical parish:
Penzance
Town:
Penzance
County/Island:
Cornwall
Country:
England.

so maybe not your lady.?

Thank you for these replies - I have seen the Ancestry entry and there is an error or two on it. VERY interesting though - I shall contact the owner to see what evidence they have of them knowing who the parents are - proof of marriage (?) in the US?

Kay??? - not sure what you mean - information for Rosamond Rodda is all correct up until 1862 when she leaves the Workhouse.

There is a Sarah Rodda arriving Ellis Island from England in 1869
It says she is aged 6 which would make date of birth c.1863 so a little out but could be her.
The ship is the City of Brooklyn

NO doesn't look to be your girl either. This Sarah is travelling with:-
William Rodda aged 28
Rosina Rodda aged 28
Lucy Rodda and aged 7
William Rodda aged 4

Catherine - does it say who she arrived with? or parents?

There are 2 Sarah Jane Roddas born in 1861/62........a tree on An...try has her marrying a James DeHaven in Pennsylvania but which one was it???

Great - this practically rules out the American connection...............although notes from the Workhouse suggest Arabella was going to live with an Uncle.

Father John had no brother called William though.....

Thank you very much for this.

Elizabeth?

1891

Name: Elizabeth Ann Rodda
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1857
Birth Place: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Camborne
Residence Place: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Sub registration district: Camborne
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1850
Folio: 137
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Ann Rodda 34 (occupation *****keeper?)
............................

Just to confirm that Elizabeth did have middle name Ann

RODDA, ELIZABETH ANN BUTT
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 287

maybe this?

Name: Elizabeth Ann Rodda
Arrival Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1856
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 24 Apr 1892
Occupation:- Matron
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Servia
Official Number: 84172
Search Ship Database: Search for the Servia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
....................................

also this one:-

MARITAL STATUS Unknown
GENDER Female
AGE AT ARRIVAL 36y
YEAR OF BIRTH 1856
ETHNICITY English
PASSENGER ID 604336060777
DATE OF ARRIVAL June 15th, 1892
SHIP OF TRAVEL Majestic (1890)
PORT OF DEPARTURE
Liverpool & Queenstown

There is also this death which is for a child of correct age



RODDA, ELIZABETH ANN 7
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in HELSTON Volume 05C Page 181

My Goodness...............according to FREEBMD, there is only one Elizabeth (Ann) Rodda born between 1855 and 1858 in Cornwall.............

Can't see an Elizabeth Ann for 1881 - strange how there appears to be ANOTHER Elizabeth Ann in 1891............!!!!

RODDA, ELIZABETH ANN mms BUTT
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 287


1891, already posted by Catherine.

??? It says "married", but maybe wrong? for some reason, it says the whole word "married" instead of just "M" for all the other married women on the page.

Elizabeth Ann Rodda
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Ann Rodda
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1857
Birth Place: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Camborne
Residence Place: Camborne, Cornwall, England
Sub registration district: Camborne
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 1850
Folio: 137
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Ann Rodda 34 - housekeeper



?? (but can't see birth of the brother if this is your Elizabeth)

Elizabeth A. Rodda
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth A. Rodda
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Crowan, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Crowan
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Trethannas
Occupation: Surface Tin Work
Registration district: Helston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 2327
Folio: 75
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth A. Rodda 25 - unmarried
William H. Rodda 17 - brother, ag. lab.


???

Elizabeth Ann Rodda
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Ann Rodda
Registration Year: 1887
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Redruth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 328
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Ann Rodda
Frederick Trevarthen


FOR ELIMINATION - this is not the same Elizabeth in 1891 -

Elizabeth F Trevarthen [ mistranscription - Pearce on image ]
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth F Trevarthen
[Elizabeth F Pearce]
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1866
Child: Gertrude M Pearce
Francis E Pearce
Alfred L Trevarthen
Birth Place: Crowan, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Camborne
Residence Place: Troon, Camborne, Cornwall, England
Sub registration district: Camborne
ED, Institution or Vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 1851
Folio: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth F Trevarthen 25
Gertrude M Pearce 6
Francis E Pearce 5
Alfred L Trevarthen 2 [ mistranscription - Pearce on image ]

The children's mms is Rodda, but this is the marriage of that Elizabeth:

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)
Pearce William John Redruth 5c 394
Rodda Elizabeth Frances Redruth 5c 394

Marriages Mar 1854
BUTT Rosamond St Thomas 5b 91
RODDA John St Thomas 5b 91

Births Sep 1853 (>99%)
Butt Arabella Mary St Thomas 5b 65
birth of arabella mary butt mother was not married

This is the Elizabeth who married Frederick Trevarthen in 1887:


Elizabeth Ann Trevarthen
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Ann Trevarthen
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Fred Trevarthen
Birth Place: Praze, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Illogan
Ecclesiastical parish: Illogan
Town: Pool
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Redruth
Sub-registration district: Illogan
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 2242
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Fred Trevarthen 88 [ I think this is 38 on image ]
Elizabeth Ann Trevarthen 45
James Henry Trevarthen 13
Mary Ellen Trevarthen 12
Fred Trevarthen 10
John Trevarthen 7


TREVARTHEN, FREDERICK mms RODDA
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 219

TREVARTHEN, JOHN mms RODDA
GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 204

TREVARTHEN, MARY ELLEN mms RODDA
GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 217



Per Wikipedia:
Praze an Beeble, sometimes shortened to Praze, is a village in Cornwall, United Kingdom. It lies between the nearby towns of Camborne and Helston in the civil parish of Crowan.

No sign of the others - could Rosamond have re-married? She was known as Rose and there is a marriage for a Rosetta in 1862.

Phillip 1861 census details probally rules out the link Rosetta being Rosamond.

Edith Ann Trevarthen
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Edith Ann Trevarthen
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Crowan, Cornwall
Civil Parish: Illogan
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Street address: Station Road, Carn Brea
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 23
Estimated Marriage Year: 1888
Occupation: Cart Labour
Registration district: Redruth
Registration District Number: 299
Sub-registration district: Illogan
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 13994
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Charles Trevarthen 50
Edith Ann Trevarthen 50 [ looks like Ebeth on image ]
Mary Ellen Trevarthen 22
Fred Trevarthen 21
John Trevarthen 16

So Elizabeth has been found!!! Amazing!

Thank you for your efforts.

This leaves just Rosamo(u)nd and Sarah Jane.

Where were they in 1871? I may have to look at the Rosetta marriage, although that may have been ruled out.

Presumably the son:

Fred Trevarthen
in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Fred Trevarthen
Birth Place: Illogan, Corn.
Residence: Illogan
Death Date: 28 Aug 1918
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Redruth, Corn
Rank: Private
Regiment: Dorsetshire Regiment
Battalion: 1st Battalion
Regimental Number: 20228
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 357151, Hampshire Regiment.