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Merryn
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6 Mar 2019 05:16 |
Hi, I'm searching for birth/parental information for the above and their ancestors.. They were married at King Edward Aberdeenshire on 26 of May 1850. Robert Wood already had a son [also named Robert Wood - born to Ann Davidson [i think], and with Margaret had 2 other children - Margaret Wood [born 1848] and Alexander Sinclair Wood [born 1854]. Margaret Sinclair [farmservants wife]and the 2 oldest children are recorded in the 1851Census living in Lochagan [house] Banffshire.
Any family history, living relatives...would be greatly appreciated. NB I believe Robert Wood [husband] was born in Aucterless/Turriff Aberdeenshire approx 1821-1826.
Margaret Sinclair was born in Banffshire to Alexander Sinclair and Margaret Sinclair approx 1816.
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6 Mar 2019 07:31 |
You need Scotlands People which isn't a subs site I,m afraid
You can search free but need units to view the certs
You probably know this anyway from your searches
Bmds registration though didn't start till 1855 so it's parish records
They don't show fathers names though for marriages
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6 Mar 2019 07:41 |
Hi Merryn
Scotlands People Site has a Baptism Record for a Robert Wood baptised 05.06.1824 in Auchterless. Parents listed as James Wood and Elspet Howie.
This could be him. Let me know if you need any further help.
Regards Dawn
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Merryn
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6 Mar 2019 10:23 |
I am actually on Scotlands People and I spent about $30 Australian dollars on a duplicate of the wedding details of Margaret Sinclair and Robert Wood from the Old Parochial Records in a certificate form - which I had already obtained on a free website [or it could have been on Find My Past which I have an ongoing yearly subscription, so it was included], so that was a little frustrating. I have seem the Baptism record of Robert Wood in Aucterless, with James Wood and Elslpet Howie, but I can't prove either way if this is correct or not. Any ideas?
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2019 12:09 |
Child born 1852, not 1854
Name: Alexander Wood Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Dec 1852 Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1853 Baptism Place: Turriff,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: Robert Wood Mother: Margaret Sinclair FHL Film Number: 993304
birth of Margaret Name: Margaret Wood Gender: Female Birth Date: 19 Oct 1848 Baptism Date: 10 Nov 1848 Baptism Place: Turriff,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: Robert Wood Mother: Margaret Sinclair FHL Film Number: 993304
but this child looks to be living with her grandparents in 1851, not with her mother
Name: Margaret Wood Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relationship: Grandaughter (Granddaughter) Gender: Female Where born: Auchterless, Aberdeenshire Parish Number: 173 Civil Parish: Auchterless Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Aberdeenshire Address: Uppermill ED: 2 Page: 8 Household schedule number: 31 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1851_42 Household Members: Name Age John Wright 59 Margaret Wright 45 Bettsy Wright 22 Margaret Wright 20 Helen Wright 15 Isabella Wright 13 Lawrence Wright 3 Margaret Wood 3 Alexander Gray 5 Mo
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Catherine
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6 Mar 2019 12:17 |
1851 for ref
Name: Margt Sinclair Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Gamrie, banffshe Parish Number: 147 Civil Parish: Banff Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Banffshire Address: Lochagan Occupation: Farm Servant's Wife ED: 3A Page: 18 Household schedule number: 65 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1851_33 Household Members: Name Age Alexr Webster 32 Margt Sinclair 34 Robert Wood 5 born: 1846 Auchterless, aberdnshe Margt Wood 2 born: 1849 K. Edward, banffshe James Leggat 15
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6 Mar 2019 12:31 |
Interesting that she used her maiden name - had she split from her husband?
His death cert - if he died after 1855 - should include the names of his parents
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Maddie
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6 Mar 2019 12:38 |
from ancestry ??????? Name: Robert Wood Gender: Male Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1824 Baptism Place: Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: James Wood Mother: Elspet Howie FHL Film Number: 991255
parents 1841
Name James Wood Age 55 Estimated Birth Year abt 1786 Gender Male Where born Aberdeenshire, Scotland Civil parish Auchterless County Aberdeenshire Address Pat Of Bagsie Occupation Merchant Parish Number 173 Household Members
NameAge NameJames Wood 1786 aberdeenshire Age55 NameElspet Wood 1791 aberdeenshire Age50 NameCathrine Wood Age20 NameJohn Wood Age11
Name: Elspet Howie Gender: Female Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1816 Marriage Place: Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland Spouse: James Wood FHL Film Number: 991255
Name: Elspet Howie Gender: Female Baptism Date: 28 Apr 1795 Baptism Place: Old Machar,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: William Howie Mother: Jean Benzie FHL Film Number: 991206
Name: William Howie Gender: Male Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1786 Marriage Place: Saint Nicholas,Aberdeen,Aberdeen,Scotland Spouse: Jean Benzie FHL Film Number: 991139
siblings of robert
Name: John Anderson Wood Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 Nov 1829 Baptism Date: 4 Nov 1829 Baptism Place: Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: James Wood Mother: Elspet Howie FHL Film Number: 991255
Name: Katharine Wood Gender: Female Baptism Date: 25 Aug 1816 Baptism Place: Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: James Wood Mother: Elspet Howie FHL Film Number: 991255
Name: James Wood Gender: Male Baptism Date: 7 Aug 1822 Baptism Place: Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: James Wood Mother: Elspet Howie FHL Film Number: 991255
Name: Alexander Wood Gender: Male Baptism Date: 21 May 1826 Baptism Place: Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: James Wood Mother: Elspet Howie FHL Film Number: 991255
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ArgyllGran
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6 Mar 2019 12:49 |
In Scotland a married women can legally be known by either her maiden surname or her husband's surname. This is still the case today.
In older censuses they were often listed under the maiden name even when living with their husbands. Also on gravestones.
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Merryn
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6 Mar 2019 13:32 |
Thanks everyone for your research. This is awesome!!!
The 1851 Census record showing Margaret Sinclair, Robert Wood [child aged 5] and Margaret Wood [child aged 2] is the correct record; very helpful and exciting as it pinpoints the family. The father must have been working somewhere else that night and on a different census household as a visitor.
I am still trying to get hold of the death certificate for Robert Wood [the father not the child] and hoping it will have the parents names on it. If anyone has access to this record I would greatly appreciate it. He died on the 16th of June 1888 in Mount Gambier, South Australia and is buried in Lake Terrace Cemetery there.
Re the child Alexander - your record is correct, born 1852, not 1854. Interestingly, Alexander and Margarets births were registered at the same time in Turriff. I got the OPR and they are consecutive listings - with the correct birth dates. I guess its because Margaret was born out of wedlock, but by the time the listing was made in 1853, the parents were married, so the listing says they were lawfully married!!
This brings me to the birth of Robert Wood [child]. I believe he is the child of Robert Wood and Ann Davidson - unmarried. This may have a kirk session report on it? How can I access the Kirk Sessions to check?
[I think Ann Davidson died later in 1846, as the father ended up with the child]
1846 Birth Aberdeen Scotland Jan 10 1846 1846 Age <1 Christening [Kirktown of] Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Feb 1 1846
Robert Wood [My Great-great-grandfather] Born Jan 10 1846 Died July 28 1917
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Maddie
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6 Mar 2019 13:32 |
1851 Name: John Wood Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relationship: Head Spouse: Isabela Wood Gender: Male Where born: Auchterless, Aberdeenshire Parish Number: 174 Civil Parish: Belhelvie Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County: Aberdeenshire Address: Mill Of Millden Occupation: Farm Servant Waggoner ED: 3 Page: 1 Household schedule number: 2 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1851_42 Household Members: Name Age John Wood 21 Isabela Wood 19 Jessie Wood 1
Name: John Wood Gender: Male Marriage Date: 10 May 1849 Marriage Place: Old Meldrum,Aberdeen,Scotland Spouse: Isabella Morison FHL Film Number: 993351
Name: Jessie Wood Gender: Female Marriage Date: 4 Jul 1868 Marriage Place: Belhelvie,Aberdeen,Scotland Spouse: Robert Yule FHL Film Number: 6035516
Name: Isabella Yule Gender: Female Birth Date: 26 Jul 1868 Birth Place: Belhelvie,Aberdeen,Scotland Father: Robert Yule Mother: Jessie Wood FHL Film Number: 6035516
???? isabella Death 20 JUL 1869 • Loanhead Village, Lasswade, Mid Lothian, Scotland
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Merryn
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6 Mar 2019 13:39 |
Thanks everyone for your research. This is awesome!!!
The 1851 Census record showing Margaret Sinclair, Robert Wood [child aged 5] and Margaret Wood [child aged 2] is the correct record; very helpful and exciting as it pinpoints the family. The father must have been working somewhere else that night and on a different census household as a visitor.
I am still trying to get hold of the death certificate for Robert Wood [the father not the child] and hoping it will have the parents names on it. If anyone has access to this record I would greatly appreciate it. He died on the 16th of June 1888 in Mount Gambier, South Australia and is buried in Lake Terrace Cemetery there.
Re the child Alexander - your record is correct, born 1852, not 1854. Interestingly, Alexander and Margarets births were registered at the same time in Turriff. I got the OPR and they are consecutive listings - with the correct birth dates. I guess its because Margaret was born out of wedlock, but by the time the listing was made in 1853, the parents were married, so the listing says they were lawfully married!!
This brings me to the birth of Robert Wood [child]. I believe he is the child of Robert Wood and Ann Davidson - unmarried. This may have a kirk session report on it? How can I access the Kirk Sessions to check?
[I think Ann Davidson died later in 1846, as the father ended up with the child]
1846 Birth Aberdeen Scotland Jan 10 1846 1846 Age <1 Christening [Kirktown of] Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Feb 1 1846
Robert Wood [My Great-great-grandfather] Born Jan 10 1846 Died July 28 1917
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Maddie
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6 Mar 2019 13:42 |
in 1845 parochial boards took over responsibility for the poor rate which ended the Kirk Session's influence in local matters. Elected parish councils were introduced in 1894 and in 1929 the Kirk Sessions were finally abolished with the introduction of county, district and town councils. Most of these Session records reside in county record offices.
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Merryn
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6 Mar 2019 13:47 |
I'm from Australia and I get a bit confused over the order of parishes, counties...So what county may hold the record? [ie is it Aberdeenshire, or Aucterless?]
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ArgyllGran
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6 Mar 2019 13:56 |
Just for our reference -
1st Feb 1846 Robert Wood, servant, Smiddyseat, Parish of Turriff, had a son in fornication by Ann Davidson in this parish, born 11th ult., baptised before witnesses, named Robert.
"Here is a list of the surviving Kirk session records for this parish [ ie - Auchterless ]:
Minutes with Register of Discipline 1706–1961 Accounts 1706–1710 Parochial Board Minutes 1845–1874 Note: Available at the National Archives of Scotland, Edinburgh, record CH2/1334 "
https://tinyurl.com/y4otfctx
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Maddie
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6 Mar 2019 13:56 |
Aberdeen City records
Aberdeen City and Aberdeenshire Archives hold several types of records relating to Aberdeen City. The documents range from charters, minutes and accounts, to maps, plans and photographs. Originally, their function was of a practical and administrative nature but many records now constitute a valuable source for the study of all aspects of Aberdeen’s history. Burgh records
The Archives hold the finest and most complete collection of medieval and early modern burgh records in Scotland. The centre of this collection is an unrivalled series of council registers - or minutes - which date from 1398. These records chronicle the political, social and economic life of the royal burgh. The burgh records include:
Council Minutes from 1398 Guildry Accounts from 1452 Town's Correspondence from 1552 Treasury Accounts from 1559 Registers of Deeds from 1569 Kirk and Bridgework Accounts from 1571 Apprentice Registers from 1622 Register of Burgesses from 1632
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While we do not hold individual pupil records, we do have log books and admission registers for various schools in the city. These records are kept at our Old Aberdeen House branch. A list of schools in Aberdeen City, along with Aberdeenshire, Kincardineshire, Morayshire and Banffshire can be found in our Online Catalogue. Please contact our Old Aberdeen House office for further information. Cemetery records
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Valuation rolls have survived for Aberdeen City from 1855. These list the owner of a property, the name of the head tenant, and the rateable value of the property. They survive up to the present date, though domestic properties are not included after 1990. A fee is charged to those using these records for commercial, business or legal purposes (including tenancy checks for discounted purchase of social housing) and for staff searches. Please see our Table of Fees for further information, or contact our Old Aberdeen House branch where these records are held.
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Please note that the Valuation Rolls are the property of the Grampian Valuation Joint Board. Church records
We hold kirk session records for St. Nicholas, St. Clement’s, St. Clement’s Free, Langstane and Greyfriars churches. In addition to matters of church discipline, the records can contain communion rolls, payments to the poor, baptisms, marriages, and some burials. A list of the Church of Scotland records we hold can be found on our Catalogues page. Please note that access to digitised kirk session records for the whole of Scotland can now be accessed free of charge in both searchrooms.
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The burgh register of sasines records transfers of land rights within the historic Aberdeen burgh boundary and is a valuable source of information. The records begin in 1484 and continue until 1809, after which date the registers can be found at the National Records of Scotland, along with those for the North East counties. The sasine registers are held at our Town House office under the Charge and Superintendence of the Keeper of the Records of Scotland. Tax lists
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ArgyllGran
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6 Mar 2019 14:04 |
Kirk Sessions still exist. Each Church of Scotland congregation has one, and they are responsible for the running of that congregation, and keep congregational records.
As Maddie's post (at 13:42) indicates, they were originally irresponsible for wider local matters such as discipline, poor relief, etc.
Unless Robert and Ann were disciplined in some way for their unseemly behaviour, probably the only mention is the baptism record posted above.
Kirk Session records are with the National Archives in Edinburgh - see ref no in my earlier post.
Aberdeenshire Council records are nothing to do with church matters.
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Maddie
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6 Mar 2019 14:22 |
from a tree on ancestry catherine wood
Birth abt 1817 • Mains of Hatton, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1817
(AGE) Birth of Brother James Wood(1822–1894) 1822 • Mains of Hatton, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1822
5 Birth of Brother Robert Wood(1824–) 1824 • Mains of Hatton, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1824
7 Birth of Brother Alexander Wood(1826–) 1826 • Mains of Hatton, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1826
9 Birth of Brother John Anderson Wood(1830–1897) abt 1830 • Pitglassie, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1830
13 Birth of Daughter Margaret Reid Or Wood(1838–1859) 6 Jan 1838 • Auchterless, aberdeenshire
1838
21 Birth of Daughter Isabel Duffus Or Wood(1840–1913) 10 Oct 1840 • Auchterless, Aberdeenshire
1840
23 Residence 1841 • Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1841
24 Death of Father James Wood(1786–1841) Bet 1841 - 1851 Census • ?Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1841
24 Marriage 20 Sep 1845 • Auchterless,Aberdeen,Scotland James Duguid
(1810–1877)
1845
28 Birth of Son John Duguid(1846–1859) abt 1846 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1846
29 Birth of Son James Duguid(1847–1901) 1847 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1847
30 Birth of Son William Duguid(1850–1935) 17 May 1850 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1850
33 Residence 1851 • Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1851
34 Birth of Son Alexander Morrison Duguid(1852–1924) 22 Apr 1852 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1852
35 Birth of Son George Duguid(1854–1929) 20 Mar 1854 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1854
37 Death of Mother Elspet Howie(1791–1858) 8 Apr 1858 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1858
41 Birth of Son Peter Duguid(1858–1917) 05 Jul 1858 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1858
41 Death of Daughter Margaret Reid Or Wood(1838–1859) 15 Feb 1859 • Auchterless ( Auld Yoch ), Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1859
42 Death of Son John Duguid(1846–1859) 2 Oct 1859 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1859
42 Residence 1861 • Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1861
44 Death of Husband James Reid(1817–1868) 31 Mar 1868 • Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
1868
51 Residence 1871 • Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Wife
1871
54 Death of Husband James Duguid(1810–1877) 27 Apr 1877 • Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
1877
60 Residence 1881 • Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
1881
64 Death 28 Jun 1889 • Arnhead, Auchterless, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Catherine Last name Wood Age 72 Birth year 1817 Death year 1889 Death date 28 Jun 1889 Denomination Kirk Of Scotland Graveyard Fyvie Old Kirkyard Place Fyvie County Aberdeenshire Country Scotland Inscription In loving memory of James Duguid ground officer Arnhead, Auchterless d. 27 Apr. 1877 aged 66, his wife Catherine Wood d. 28 June 1889 aged 72. Their sons John d. 2 Oct. 1859 aged 14, Peter sadler in Aberdeen d. 22 July 1917 aged 59. Memorial reference 258 Notes from: 'Kirkyard of Fyvie' ISBN: 978-0-947659-96-7 OS grid reference NJ768377 Source website Record set Scotland Monumental Inscriptions Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials Collections from Great Britain, Scotland
Aberdeen & North-East Scotland Family History Society
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Merryn
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6 Mar 2019 14:26 |
Thanks again everyone! I will look into all that info later today after I get home from work. It's 1:25 am in Melbourne Australia where I am, so I really need to get to bed.
My father [Robert Wood born 1940] and I have booked a trip to Scotland from 21st of August for 3 weeks. We are trying to get as much info before we arrive to direct our itinerary - of research centers and of all the places we can track our ancestors as living in - towns, churches, farms... and even hope to find a living relative...we are flying in to Aberdeen and will go from there... assisted by all this fantastic information!!!
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6 Mar 2019 14:27 |
Re Robert Wood's death in 1888:
https://genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
Enter Robert's name and 1888, and it'll take you to a page showing there's one death record. Click on that, and then on the next page click on "Find out more".
That takes you to this:
WOOD, Robert Found in 'Death Index' Database no-avatar-male Given Name(s): Robert Last Name: WOOD Death Year: 1888 Death Date: (members only) Gender: (members only) Age: (members only) Approx. Birth Year: (members only) Marital Status: (members only) Relative 1: Relative 2: (members only) Residence: (members only) Death Place: (members only) District: Grey Symbol: (members only) REG: 171/483 Cross Reference: (members only)
You have to become a member, and that will let you see the full record. (Apparently! I can't vouch for it.)
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