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Name: John Roper
Registration Date: 1916
Registration district: Rotherham
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Re-registration Year: 1916
Mother's Maiden Name: Beeman
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1367

Maybe??

Name: John Roper
Registration Date: Jan-Feb-Mar 1943
Registration district: Rother Valley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: Gladys Weaver
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1151

Name: Gladys Roper
Death Age: 77
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1921
Registration Date: Mar 1998
Registration district: Rotherham
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Register Number: B45B
District and Subdistrict: 0451B


1939
Weaver Household (5 People)
2 Vale Road , Rotherham R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Gladys Roper (Weaver) 23 Mar 1921 Female Steel Works Backer Single 82 4
Thomas Weaver 04 Jun 1880 Male Colliery Check Weighing (Above) Married 82 1
Mary Weaver 18 Apr 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 82 2
Herbert Weaver 23 Mar 1919 Male Motor Mechanic Single 82 3
Muriel Hewitt (Weaver) 25 May 1922 Female Steel Works Etcher Single 82 5

ROPER, JOSEPH BEAMAN
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 779
ROPER, WILLIAM BEAMAN
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 729

Deaths Sep 1973 (>99%)
ROPER WILLIAM 17MR1906 ROTHERHAM 2C 1475
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Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Roper Male Beaman Rotherham 9c 1456
Roper Female Beaman Rotherham 9c 1457

Deaths Mar 1913 (>99%)
Roper Male 0 Rotherham 9c 924
Roper Female 0 Rotherham 9c 924
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Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Roper Florence E Beaman Rotherham 9c 1211
Deaths Dec 1917 (>99%)
Roper Florence E 0 Rotherham 9c 717

First name(s) Florence Elsie
Last name Roper
Age 0
Birth year 1917
Death year 1917
Burial year 1917
Burial date 09 Nov 1917
Church Cemetery
Denomination Cemetery
Place Masbrough
County Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding)

Hi ErikaH
Thank you for all the info on the Ropers.
How you get the details for 1939 is brilliant.
The Heigolds is interesting as we know two families called Heigold. One used to live next door! You never know, may be related.
We have info for the Ropers up to 1926:
Sarah Beaman married John Thomas Roper in 1905. They had William (1906), Joseph (1907), Winifred (1908 d1908), Thomas (1909 d1909), Mary Lily (1910 d1911), Elizabeth (1912, d1912), female and male unnamed (1913 d1913), Agnes (1914 d1914), John (1916), Florence E (1917 d1917), Edward (1922), George (1924), Alexander (1926). Finding the deaths of the children was easy(ish), it is when they move on that they seem to disappear.
Feel very sorry for them with the number of deaths, but suppose it was a sign of the times.
Sarah lived to a good age. Her dad died in Rotherham in 1944, aged 85.
Clara, Sarah's older sister, had similar problems with deaths. Her and her first husband, John Davison (m1986 Sunderland), had Thomas Davison(1890 Seaham Harbour, assume to a different wife as Clara would only have been 11 then), Margaret Ann Davison (1897, Royston), William Davison (1898, Crofton), John Edward Davison (1899, Monk Bretton), she then married John Edward Trueman (1903, Leeds) and they had Alice (1904), Albert (1905), Agnes (1907) Winifred (1908 d1918), Robert (1909 d1909), William (1911 d1911), Lawrence (1911 d1911), Herbert (1912 d1912). Clara then died in 1912.
Once again, thank you for your time and effort into finding this info. We only have the standard platinum membership of Genes, so maybe need to invest in other available search areas.

Genes is not the best place for research
Most people just have basic membership here and use it as a sounding board.

Hi ErikaH
Anything you would recommend that is better than Genes?

I use both Find my Past and Ancestry.co.uk

Both cost over £100 per year, although you can get a two week free trial with Ancestry if you register your credit card with them. Don't forget to cancel if you go down that route!

But people on here love to help, so unless you particularly want to find the info yourself, (many people do) post your specific queries and see what happens

Thank you.
Will have a look at both of them.
Ancestry seems good with the trial period.
If you are willing to help (but please don't go out of your way) then any info on:
John Davison b1873, Seaham Harbour.
Think he died in 1907 in Tynemouth.
Know about his parents, Matthew and Isabella and siblings.
Mainly info on:
He married Clara Beaman in Sunderland in 1896.
They had Thomas (b1890 or 1894 Seaham Harbour or Nostel) (think to a different wife as Cara would be too young at 11/15 and unmarried or maybe?).
Margaret Ann Davison (b1897 Royston, Barnsley).
William Davison (b1898 Crofton, Wakefield).
John Edward Davison (b1899, Monk Bretton, Barnsley).
Know about John Edward as grandfather but he wouldn't talk about his family, so all a blank about others.
They don't come up on Genes on any searches we've done and visited Rotherham archives and no mention there.
Only know as a child that Aunty Maggie used to visit, so assume it was Margaret Ann Davison.
Have written down the 1901 census for the family, but it doesn't come up on Genes at all. There was John, Clara, Thomas, Margaret, John Edward, William, Edward Beaman (father in law), Winifred Beaman (mother in law), Sarah Beaman (eventual Sarah Roper).
Know in 1911 that John Edward was living with Edward Beaman and Winifred Beaman (though she died in April 1911) at 2 Tusmore St, Rotherham. We've info on 1911 for Clara and family.
Don't know what happened to John and Clara after 1901 except they were no longer together and think John went back to the North East (possibly parents). Clara married a John Edward Trueman (lots of info on this now from another member).
Much appreciated what you have done so far.
Just a point in the right direction will do. Don't expect you to do all the work.

FMP version of 1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, Fourth Street, Crofton, Wakefield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

John Davinson Head Married Male 28 1873 Coal Miner Hewer (Below) Durham, England
Clara Davinson Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Thomas Davinson Son Single Male 11 1890 - Durham, England
Margaret Davinson Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Royston, Yorkshire, England
John E Davinson Son - Male 5 1896 - Yorkshire, England
William Davinson Son - Male 3 1898 - Crofton, Yorkshire, England
Edward Beman Boarder Married Male 46 1855 Coal Miner Hewer Staffordshire, England
Winifred Beman Boarders Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Sarah Beman Boarders Daur Single Female 14 1887 - Bingley, Yorkshire, England
William Driscol Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Coal Miner Hewer -

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Beaman Clara Sunderland 10a 922
DAVISON John Sunderland 10a 922

Clara's age is wrong in 1901, if this is correct

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Australia Street, Seaham, Easington, Durham, England


Edward Beaman Head Married Male 34 1857 Coal Miner Staffordshire, England
Winifred Beaman Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Yorkshire, England
William Beaman Son - Male 17 1874 Coal Miner Yorkshire, England
Clara Beaman Daughter - Female 11 1880 - Yorkshire, England
Sarah Beaman Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Northumberland, England

Hi ErikaH
1901 Census. Ah, spellings make all the difference!
Thank you so much.

Yes she was born in 1879/1880, so 1891 census would be correct.
Looks like the 1901 census filled in wrongly' maybe to make Thomas look legitimate?

Neither Thomas nor Margaret can be Clara's children unless she was giving birth at the age of approx 13

1881

Balaclava Terrace, West Ardsley, Wakefield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Edward Beaman Head Married Male 24 1857 Coal Miner Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Winifred Beaman Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Clara Beaman Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

For info - and to help others

Name: Edward Bamen
Marriage Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1857
Marriage Date: 19 Mar 1877
Marriage Place: Batley, All Saints, Yorkshire, England

Father: John Bamen
Spouse: Winifred Peacock

Possibly be Margaret's mother as in 1897 she would have been 17/18. Wonder if the marriage had to be due to pregnancy. definitely not mother of Thomas.
Found that Edward Beaman married a Winifred (according to birth of Sarah, mother's maiden name was Tanzie but could be a Tansey if misspelt).

Margaret was born 1894 at the latest

Winifred was married BEFORE she married Edward

Name: Winifred Peacock********WIDOW
Marriage Age: 24
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1853
Marriage Date: 19 Mar 1877
Marriage Place: Batley, All Saints, Yorkshire, Englan

Father: John Tansey
Spouse: Edward Bamen

Name: Winifred Tansey
Marriage Age: 20
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1850
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1870
Marriage Place: Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Father: John Tansey
Spouse: Thomas Peacock

If this is the correct birth reg. for Clara and the marriage posted by ErikaH is correct then Winifred was previously married?

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BEAUMONT, CLARA TANZEY
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 432

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Possible for the marriage -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%)
CROWTHER Joe Leeds 9b 641
PEACOCK Thomas Leeds 9b 641
SELLERS Emma Leeds 9b 641
TANSEY Winifred Leeds 9b 641

1871
Name: Winifred Peacock
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Peacock
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 4551
Folio: 19
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Peacock 20
Winifred Peacock 20