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I agree with the children's births, AQ.

In fact, I meant to post them earlier, but don't seem to have done so!

AG, that looks a much more likely marriage. Possible births for the children??

PLATTS, HENRY SWAINE
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 496

PLATTS, ELIZABETH ANN SWAN
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in WALSALL Volume 06B Page 536

PLATTS, WILLIAM SWAN
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 234

Also wondering if this was another possible child:

name(s) ANNIE PLATTS
Birth year 1864
Birth quarter 3
Mother's maiden name Swann
District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Volume 6D Page 210

Christening:
Name: Ann Platts
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 3 Sep 1864
Baptism Place: Saint Martin,Birmingham,Warwick,England
Father: William Platts
Mother: Catharine
FHL Film Number: 919775, 919776

Hi I’m still waiting for her to reply back I will add to this shortly thank you all!!

She is descendef from the stoke On trent William Plat 1866

You learn something every day !! I never knew there was no penalty for not registering a child in that period wow

Catharine Swan
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Catharine Swan
Age: 23 [ 13 on image ]
Estimated birth year: abt 1818 [ 1828]
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Bathford
Hundred: Bath Forum
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Batheaston
Neighbors:
Piece: 931
Book: 3
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
George Swan 50 - paper maker
Rebecca Swan 30
Catharine Swan 23 [ 13 on image]
Ann Swan 10
Sarah Swan 5
Mary Swan 2

Address: Paper Mill




George Swan
in the 1851 England Census
Name: George Swan
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Rebecca Swan
Gender: Male
Where born: Maidstone, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Little Chester <<<<<<<<<<<<
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: St Alkmund
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 2142
Folio: 398
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
George Swan 65 - paper maker
Rebecca Swan 44
Ann Swan 20
Sarah Swan 13
Mary Swan 11
William Swan 8
Charlotte Swan 5



George Swan
in the Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
Name: George Swan
Gender: Male
Marriage or Bann Date: 9 Dec 1827
Marriage Place: Bath, St James, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Bath, St James
Spouse: Rebecca Pople

Catherine Swan
in the Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
Name: Catherine Swan
Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1829
Baptism Place: Monkton Combe, Somerset, England
Parish as it Appears: Monkton Combe
Father: George Swan
Mother: Rebecca Swan


Catharine Swan
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Catharine Swan
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1847
Marriage Place: Duffield, Derbyshire, England
Father: George Swan
Spouse: William Platts


Marriages Sep 1847 (>99%)
PLATS William Belper 19 317
SWAN Catharine Belper 19 317

1851 Bradford page 26 of 38
William Plat 26 married Lodger born Sheffield a Iron Moulder
Catherine 22 born Bath
Hannah 3 born Derbyshire

1861 Bridgwater Somerset
William Platt 34 Lodger unmarried Iron Moulder born Ecclesfield.

Maryb.

Emma, there are 3 William Platt/s birth registrations in Stoke on Trent Reg. District 1866 +/- 2 years. And as said before, there was no penalty for not registering then.

Age on census can't be taken for certain unless proved by birth reg. i.e. 1881 census says age 15, simple Maths says born 1866. More likely to have been 1865 as census was early part of the year.

What facts is your friend certain of and has proved as I asked earlier. How has your friend got back to William 1866?

How did your friend get back to William? Is she descended from one of his children?
If so, which one?

We need some definite facts/documentation to base a search on.

I’m asking on behalf of a friend from what I can gather it was because of the censuses - ie William Platt b 1866 stoke On trent is this ladys link to
William Platt & Catherine.

Emma -

What are you absolutely sure of?

How have you worked back to this family?

I don't understand your last post.
You had already told us that you thought her name was Findley - and you knew about the marriage - so why are you saying "I suppose . . . . that's where the name Findley has come from" ??

Emma, I think you need to say how you worked back to William and Catherine.

Hi I suppose because of that William Platt and Catherine Findley marriage that’s where findley has come from ?! Going to go over all this now very interesting!

Thanks Guys :)

I think it is possibly a different Catherine.

Possible remarriage for William (the William that married Catherine Findley)?

Name William Platt (engine Driver) widower
Birth Year abt 1828
Marriage Date 6 Nov 1864
Parish Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name Thomas Matthew Platt (Millwright)
Spouse's Name Harriet Smith, Widow
Spouse's Father's Name John Cartledge

I don't have time to look any further! There might be other possibles too, Sorry if i've confused things. See you soon

Thanks ArgyllGran. That rules out the Thomas on the 1851 census that I posted.

1861 posted above by AQ - FMP have mistranscribed. No wonder not showing up !!

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
66, Gaythorne Street, Manchester, Lancashire, England

Catherine Batt's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Batt Head Married Male 33 1828 Mill Engineer Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Catherine Batt Wife Married Female 32 1829 - Ireland
Mary Ann Batt Daughter - Female 6 1855 - Manchester, Lancashire, England

For our reference - as something definite ;

Catharine Findley
in the Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral)
Name: Catharine Findley
Birth Year: abt 1830
Marriage Date: 28 Aug 1853
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Thomas Findley
Spouse's name: William Platt
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Platt
Archive Roll: 722

William Platt was a widower, Catherine a spinster.

Thomas Platt was a miller, and Thomas Findley a gardener.

Witnesses:
James Williams and Eliza Riley.

Wondered if this was Catherine Findley (a different Catherine to the above):

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Park Street, Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
William Henry Brown Head Married Male 30 1821 Cm 12-12 ?manchester Warehouse Burley, Yorkshire, England
Frances Brown Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Ann Mary Brown Dau - Female 4 1847 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Thomas Brown Son - Male 2 1849 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Henry Preston Brown Son - Male 0 1851 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Catherine Finley Servant Unmarried Female 18 1833 All Work Servant Ireland

and in 1861:

Name: Catherine Platt
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William Platt
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 2943
Folio: 48
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
William Platt 33
Catherine Platt 32
Mary Ann Platt 6

Was there an occupation given for Thomas on the marriage certificate please?


This is the only Thomas that I can see in Somerset in the correct timescale. Could be, perhaps be a stepfather to Catherine?


Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Twerton, Bath, Somerset, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Thomas Finlay Head Married Male 35 1816 School Master North Cadbury, Somerset, England
Mary Finlay Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Stowell, Somerset, England
Jane Finlay Daughter - Female 13 1838 Scholar Lydford, Somerset, England
Francis Finlay Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Charlton, Somerset, England
Mary Ann Finlay Daughter - Female 5 1846 Scholar Bedminster, Somerset, England
Henry G Finlay Son - Male 3 1848 - Bedminster, Somerset, England
Richard Finlay Son - Male 1 1850 - Twerton, Somerset, England

Possible she could have been born other than Findley, or variation but her Mother married/remarried and she took that surname.

Could have made it all up.

Not seeing a Catherine Findlay or variation born Somerset on the 1851

Sorry GG, I deleted. I'm not sure if the Platt/ Findley couple are the same as the couple above.- but I;m about to go out and didn't want to start something I couldn't follow through.