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ArgyllGran

I know all about "Drifting away a bit from the original question..." but that's what I enjoy about this hobby/life/addiction! It is so easy to get completely sidetracked - indeed, I haven't a clue now why I go onto the Marshalls originally. But I have confirmed that the Dr Charles Hingston who I mentioned in my post of 18 Feb 2019 15:38 is the same as the one already in my tree and I had come across him by following wy wife's aunt's Fox line (the Hingstons and Foxs were all Quakers).

You and the others have found a wonderful trove of information there. I'm afraid that I didn't get around to looking through the first batches of info yesterday evening as we were invited out to take part in the monthly village quiz. (Our team won last time but we only came 3rd yesterday.) And this morning my neighbour came around to ask advice about how to get started on her family tree!

Anyway, this evening... I'll try to get all those lovely facts into my tree.

Thanks sooo much,

Simon :-)

Surgeons
AARON, Abraham & Son Lemon Street
BASSETT, Nicholas Francis Lemon Street
BULL, H.E. Infirmary
BULLMORE, George Pyder Street
FERRIS & BUCKINGHAM 13 High Cross
HARPUR, Abraham 3 River Street
MARSHALL, Diggory King 20 St Mary Street <<<<<<<<<<<<
POWELL, Thomas 16 Lemon Street
POWELL, Thomas jun 16 Lemon Street

opc-cornwall.org/Par_new/t_z/pdfs/truro_and_mitchell_directory_1830.pdf

John followed in his father's footsteps - and was named after his grandfather.

Diggery King Marshall
in the England, United Grand Lodge of England Freemason Membership Registers, 1751-1921
Name: Diggery King Marshall
Gender: Male
Year Range: 1768-1813
Profession: Surgeon <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Lodge Location: Truro, Cornwall
Folio Number: 261
E Lodge Number: 429E


Digory King Marshall
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Digory King Marshall
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 1 Jul 1833
Burial Place: St. Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England
FHL Film Number: 226225
Reference ID: yr 1813-1833 p 198


Degary King Marshal
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Degary King Marshal
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Sep 1754
Baptism Place: Bodmin,Cornwall,England
Father: John Marshal <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 962600

More siblings:


Phebe Marshall
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Phebe Marshall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1795
Baptism Date: 12 Feb 1795
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Father: Digory King Marshall
Mother: Phebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS


Cecelia Marshall
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Cecelia Marshall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Oct 1793
Baptism Date: 25 Nov 1793
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Father: Degory King Marshall
Mother: Phoebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS

Cecilia Marshall
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Cecilia Marshall
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 2 Sep 1814
Marriage Place: Truro, Cornwall, England
Spouse: Bernard Wills
FHL Film Number: 1596279
Reference ID: 14

Cecilia Wills
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Cecilia Wills
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 6 Jan 1818
Marriage Place: Truro, Cornwall, England
Spouse: Duncan Grant
FHL Film Number: 1596279
Reference ID: 37

Cecilia Wills
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Cecilia Wills
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 6 Jan 1818
Marriage Place: Truro, Cornwall, England
Spouse: Duncan Grant
FHL Film Number: 1596279
Reference ID: 37


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Betsey Marshal
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Betsey Marshal
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1785
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Death Date: 10 Nov 1786
Father: Digory King Marshal
Mother: Phebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS

Presumably died in infancy.

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Betsey Pender Marshal
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Betsey Pender Marshal
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1788
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Father: Digory King Marshal
Mother: Phebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS

Betsey Pender Marshall
in the England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858
Name: Betsey Pender Marshall
Probate Date: 18 Oct 1830
Residence: Redruth


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Harriet Green Marshal
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Harriet Green Marshal
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 28 Jun 1787
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Father: Digory Marshal
Mother: Phebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS


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Nanny Marshall
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Nanny Marshall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1800
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1800
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Father: Digory King Marshall
Mother: Phoebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS

Nanny Marshall
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Nanny Marshall
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 25 Sep 1815
Marriage Place: Okehampton,Devon,England
Spouse: James Moriarty
FHL Film Number: 917210

Nanny Moriarty
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Nanny Moriarty
Registration Year: 1863
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 150

Sibling of John & Fanny:

Jane Catherine Marshall
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Jane Catherine Marshall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Nov 1797
Baptism Date: 21 Dec 1797
Baptism Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Father: Digory King Marshall
Mother: Phoebe
FHL Film Number: 0226223, 0226224, PLUS


Jane Catharine Marshall
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Jane Catharine Marshall
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1815
Marriage Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Spouse: Dowell O Reilly
FHL Film Number: 236528

Jane Catherine O'Reilly
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Jane Catherine O'Reilly
Estimated birth year: abt 1798
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 139

Back to the Marshalls -

John & Fanny's parents' marriage:

Digory King Marshal Or Marshall
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Digory King Marshal Or Marshall
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1781
Marriage Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Spouse: Phebe Allen
FHL Film Number: 236528

Note Phoebe's surname - the reason for Fanny's son Allen's name ??

Another sibling:

Mary Elizabeth Sarle
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Mary Elizabeth Sarle
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1821
Baptism Date: 3 Jul 1821
Baptism Place: Rousay and Egilshay,Orkney,Scotland
Father: Charles Sarle
Mother: Frances Sarle
FHL Film Number: 990507


Mary Elizabeth Sarle
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name: Mary Elizabeth Sarle
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 9 Nov 1841
Marriage Place: Edinburgh Parish,Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland
Father: Charles Sarle
Spouse: Alexander Irving
FHL Film Number: 1066695


OK, I'll go cold turkey re the Sarles now, although there's lots more tempting stuff about them on Ancestry!

Drifting away a bit from the original question -


Another child of Charles and Fanny:

Allen Lanyon Sarle
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Allen Lanyon Sarle
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1828
Baptism Date: 11 Dec 1828
Baptism Place: Rousay and Egilshay,Orkney,Scotland
Father: Charles Sarle
Mother: Frances Sarle
FHL Film Number: 990507


Sir Allen Lanyon Sarle
in the UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Name: Sir Allen Lanyon Sarle
Death Date: 4 Jun 1903
Cemetery: All Saints Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place: Banstead, Reigate and Banstead Borough, Surrey, England
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Sarle

Gravestone says:
son of Charles Sarle of Rousay, Orkney and Dominica, W Indies.

Sir Allen's obituary here - very interesting:

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/35556379

It includes:

"The son of a Falmouth lawyer,
he was born in the Orkney Islands in 1828.
His father, Mr. Charles Sarle, was at
one time stipendiary magistrate of
Dominica, West Indies."

Eureka!
John was indeed Fanny's brother;



John Marshel
England Births and Christenings
Name John Marshel
Gender Male
Christening Date 08 Sep 1783
Christening Date (Original) 08 SEP 1783
Christening Place TRURO,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's Name Digory King Marshel
Mother's Name Phebe

Fanny Searle's brother Charles was also born on Rousay:

SARLE
CHARLES LANYON
CHARLES SARLE/FANNY SARLE
M
20/11/1823
024/
20 22
Rousay

I wonder what on earth the family was doing in Orkney ?? A long way from Cornwall.

Fanny Searle 1831's parents' marriage, which does support the birth in Truro for her mother Fanny:

Fanny Marshall
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Fanny Marshall
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 26 Nov 1812
Marriage Place: Truro,Cornwall,England
Spouse: Charles Sarle
FHL Film Number: 236528

Fanny in 1841 - mother born England:

Fanny Sarle
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: Fanny Sarle
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Stephen
County: Midlothian
Address: Forres St 10 W S
Parish Number: 685/1
Household Members:
Name Age
Mrs. Fanny Sarle 50
Charles Sarle 15
Fanny Sarle 10
Mrs. Margt Campbell 70
Margt Reid 25
Mary Milne 30



Just as a wild guess, bearing in mind the Marshall family's Cornish links, there was a Fanny Marshall born in Truro:


Fanny Marshall
England, Cornwall Parish Registers
Name Fanny Marshall
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 12 Feb 1790
Event Place Truro St Mary, Cornwall, England, United Kingdom
Gender Female
Father's Name Digory King Marshall
Father's Residence Place Truro
Mother's Name Phebe Marshall

Hence John's daughter Phoebe's name ??

So maybe John's birth ?? (with a different mother ??)

John Marshall
England Births and Christenings
Name John Marshall
Gender Male
Christening Date 28 Jan 1781
Christening Date (Original) 28 JAN 1781
Christening Place STRATTON,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's Name Digory Marshall
Mother's Name Elis


EDIT:
Well, it was a nice theory re John, but NO.

I think they're two different families, one in Truro, one in Stratton.
Both have other children born in those places..

And that John 1781 must have died in infancy, as Digory and Elizabeth had another son John in Stratton in 1788.

EDIT AGAIN:

Ah, but see 19 Feb @ 09:54. Theory correct after all.

The cousin Fanny Searle's birth:

SARLE
FANNY MARSHALL
CHARLES SARLE/FANNY SARLE
F
29/03/1831
024/
20 54
Rousay (Orkney)


Presumably her mother was John's sister - but sadly I can't see Charles & Fanny's marriage which would likely have indicated where Fanny (and John) was born.

Emma (nee Marshall) in 1851:


Emma M Carden
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Emma M Carden
[Emma M Cardew]
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: East Indias
Civil Parish: Falmouth
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Falmouth
Sub-registration district: Mylor
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 1911
Folio: 308
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma M Carden 34 - widow
Annette N M Cardew 16 - daughter, East Indias
Emma M Cardew 13 - daughter, East Indias
Fanny M Searle 20 - cousin, Scotland
George L M Parker 10 - nephew, East Indias
Eliza E M Parker 8 - niece, East Indias
Jane Montgomery 32 - visitor
Ann Paddy 41 - servant
Elizabeth Tonkin 26 - servant
Catherine A Dimble 22 - servant


Her birth:

Emma Marshall
in the India, Select Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
Name: Emma Marshall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 May 1816
Baptism Date: 17 Nov 1816
Baptism Age: 0
Baptism Place: Dinapore, Bengal, India
Father: John Marshall
Reference ID: v 10 p 112
FHL Film Number: 498610

A tree on Ancestry (owner : Richard Marshall) says that Phoebe was born c1810 in Bengal - but that seems to be a best guess.

The tree says she had another sister, Emma Marie, born 1 May 1816 • Dinapore, Bengal, India.
Emma's marriage:
26 Mar 1834 • Dinapore, Bengal, India, to Ambrose Cardew (1806–1837).
They had several children, born in India.
In 1851 they were living in Falmouth, Cornwall, and in 1871 in Morwenstow, Cornwall. 1881 & 1891 - in Falmouth.
Emma's death: 7 Feb 1901 • St Kew, Cornwall, England


Their mother:

Elizabeth Mary Law, born c1781, no place of birth given. Parents unknown.
No proof given that she's John's wife.

The tree says Dr John died 15 May 1850 in Falmouth, and says this is his death record:

John Marshall
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Marshall
Registration Year: 1850
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Falmouth
Inferred County: Cornwall
Volume: 9
Page: 48

Re date of death, however, there's this:

John Marshall
in the UK, Roll of the Indian Medical Service, 1615 -1930
Name: John Marshall
Birth Date: 1783
Event Date: 1805
Death Date: 30 Aug 1850
Death Place: Falmouth

The image shows a long list of his qualifications and appointments, but sadly no indication of where they were obtained.

MRCS 1805; Assistant Surgeon 31 March 1805; Surgeon 22 March 1818; Senior Surgeon 24 July 1833; MMB and IG Hospitals [Inspector General ? ] 1 March 1843;
SG [Surgeon General ? ] 23 July 1843; Physician General and Pres[ident ?] 16 Feb 1844; FRCS original list 1844; retired 16 Feb 1845.



John Marshall
in the England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858
Name: John Marshall
Probate Date: 2 Nov 1850
Residence: Falmouth, Cornwall, England

Image shows his Will - "late a surgeon in the service of the East India Company".

thats why we are here :-D

Thanks Maddie, yes I have a UK sub for Ancestry so I have all the UK Census etc - it's just the overseas records that stump me sometimes but there's not enough of them to make it worth my while having a worldwide sub to Ancestry.

if you don't have 1851 forcharles

3, Sussex Terrace, St Andrew, Plymouth, Devon, England
.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Hingston Head Married Male 45 1806 M D Edin Physician Dodbrooke, Devon, England
Louisa J Hingston Wife Married Female 36 1815 - Cricklade, Wiltshire, England
Mary A Hingston Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 - Devon, England
Georgina B Hingston Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1833 - Devon, England
Louisa Hingston Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Devon, England
Charlotte P Hingston Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Devon, England
Charles A Hingston Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Devon, England
Ernest A Hingston Son - Male 6 1845 - Devon, England
Fanny C Hingston Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Devon, England
Clara G Hingston Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Devon, England
Mary A Cole Servant Unmarried Female 34 1817 Servt Ashprington, Devon, England
Caroline A Ford Servant Unmarried Female 31 1820 Servt Devon, England
Jane A Deacon Servant Unmarried Female 27 1824 Servt Stoke, Cornwall, England
Elizabeth A Pinch Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Servt Devon, England

HINGSTON, CHARLES ALBERT PARKER
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 423
HINGSTON, ERNEST ALISON PARKER
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 09 Page 380

CHARLES
Last name HINGSTON
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1837
Louisa Jane Parker,
District Plymouth
District number -
County Devon

There you go! I knew that I could rely on you kind people to do some looking up for me! Thanks.

I'll read and digest what you've found a bit later this arvo as I'm well and truly tied up with Hingstons and Prideaux of Plymouth atm (the Parker brothers' sister Louisa married a Dr Charles Hingston and I'm trying to see if he's the Charles already in my tree...)

Simon :-)

India Office Family History Search > Search Results > Record details


Name:
John MARSHALL
Event type:
Marriage
Start date:
23 May
Start year:
1831
End date:
End year:
Location:
Cath.Ft.William
Spouse:
Amelia OLIVER
Age:
Status:
Asst. Apothecary H.M. 49th Regt.
Parents:
Notes:
Transcribed by:
British Library
India Office Records Reference:

N/1/30 f.79
Source name:
Source year:
Source edition:
Presidency:
Bengal