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20 Feb 2019 09:53 |
Hello AustinQ sorry i have only just noticed your reply as it was on page 2 and i found that so very helpful. Thank you i appreciate you sending me the link and i hope by that i will maybe be able to contact some of the family Regards jenny
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18 Feb 2019 10:48 |
Mention of children here:
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/hamilton-on/edna-mackrory-5196160
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Jennifer
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18 Feb 2019 09:54 |
Thanks for that Argyllgran, all info welcome and appreciate you going the extra mile. I do know about his step mother. One question as I know it is difficult to get Canadian information but is there any way I can find out if John Maurice Mackrory had any children and if so how could I get in touch with them. jenny
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17 Feb 2019 16:33 |
Just digging about because you said you couldn't find Onslow's mother's name (and because there's nothing much else happening on the boards today!)- but I can't find it either.
You may already have this -
Eliza Jane (in 1861 census) was his stepmother:
Eliza Jane Wyatt in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1912 Name: Eliza Jane Wyatt (Father: George Wyatt, Rector of Burghwallis, Yorkshire) Gender: Female Age: Full Age Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 16 Aug 1859 Marriage Place: Great Oxendon, Northamptonshire, England Register Type: Parish Registers Parish as it Appears: Great Oxendon Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: John Power Clarke - Bandmaster 11th Hussars, widower (Father: John Power Clarke, gentleman)
They may have had another son, John Julian William Clarke, born and died in Brighton 1858.-
England, Sussex, Parish Registers Name John Julian William Clarke Event Type Christening Event Date 07 Oct 1858 Event Place St Peter's Church, Brighton, Sussex, England Gender Male Father's Name John Power Clarke Mother's Name Elizabeth Clarke
John Julian William Clarke in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: John Julian William Clarke Registration Year: 1858 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Brighton Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 2b Page: 14
Bearing in mind the info re Eliza on 1861 census - birth somewhere in North Wales -
her baptism ??
Eliza Jane Wyatt in the Wales, Select Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907 Name: Eliza Jane Wyatt Gender: Female Baptism Date: 3 Apr 1815 Baptism Place: Llanrug,Caernarvon,Wales Father: George Wyatt Mother: Eliza FHL Film Number: 104577
Jno. C. Clarke in the 1881 England Census Name: Jno. C. Clarke Age: 64 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Eliza J. Clarke Gender: Male Where born: (B S), France Civil Parish: St George Hannover Square County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 29 Denbigh St Marital status: Married Occupation: Bandmaster Soldier Off Registration district: St George Hanover Square ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: Piece: 104 Folio: 52 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Jno. C. Clarke 64 Eliza J. Clarke 64 - Caernarvonshire Mary H. Batten 22
Maybe possible birth of Onslow ??? A few credits on SP would let you see the document - though it might not show any more info than already transcribed.
CLARK ----- JOHN CLARK/ U 12/11/1853 685/2 610 296 St Cuthbert's
EDIT: NO - that child was stillborn.
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Jennifer
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17 Feb 2019 15:12 |
safc thank you for all that lovely information it has been a great help. Somewhere along the line we thought Maud had married a Alfred Welfare but seeing the dates etc we see the error of our ways. The two Mauds were born a year apart which makes it more difficult but so glad that is cleared up and also that they were both Maud Jane Clarke. So much useful information, thanks again. Argyll Gran, thank you for your help as well. Mauds father,Onslow was indeed born in Edinburgh. His father,John Power Clarke was in the military there he was a bandmaster but we could find no record of his birth or who his mother was. Thanks again to you both jenny
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MargaretM
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17 Feb 2019 11:56 |
The 2 marriages (I think 2 different Maudes)
Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%) CLARKE Maude Jane Fulham 1a 513 Mackrory Alfred John Fulham 1a 513
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%)
Clarke Maud J Welfare Sheppey 2a 2056 Welfare Alfred H Clarke Sheppey 2a 2056
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ErikaH
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17 Feb 2019 09:57 |
How could his mother’s first husband be Welfare if her child with him was born 4 years AFTER the Mackrory child?
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ArgyllGran
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16 Feb 2019 21:11 |
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Maud J Clarks in the 1891 England Census Name: Maud J Clarks [Maud J Clarke] Gender: Female Age: 1 Relationship: Daughter Birth Year: 1890 Father: Onslow C H Clarks Mother: Elizabeth C Clarks Birth Place: West Green, London, England Civil Parish: Hammersmith Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England Sub registration district: St Paul Hammersmith ED, Institution or Vessel: 17 Neighbors: Piece: 38 Folio: 100 Household Members: Name Age Onslow C H Clarks 38 - Edinburgh Elizabeth C Clarks 34 Elizabeth L M Clarks 10 Harry J Clarks 8 Julius O Clarks 5 William C Clarks 3 Maud J Clarks 1 Ethel N Clarks 2/12 Elizabeth Elkington 58 - Onslow's mother-in-law John Stratton 22 - boarder Emert J Brickson 23 - boarder
Following the censuses back, they all say Onslow was born in Edinburgh (or Scotland) in 1853, though I don't see his birth on SP.
Onslow J Taylor in the 1861 England Census Name: Onslow J Taylor [Onslow J Clarke] Age: 8 Estimated birth year: 1853 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Edonborough, Scotland Civil Parish: Stretford Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Barton Upon Irwell Sub-registration district: Stretford ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 162 Piece: 2866 Folio: 20 Page Number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Martha Taylor 34 - lodging house keeper John P Clark Taylor 44 [Taylor is a mistake] lodger, bandmaster of Hussars, born France, British subject Eliza J Taylor 45 [ Clark on image] born somewhere unreadable, North Wales Onslow J Taylor 8 [ Clark on image ]
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ArgyllGran
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16 Feb 2019 21:06 |
According to the Ancestry tree, Maud was only married once -
"25 Jun 1910 • St Luke, Shepherds Bush, Middlesex, England
Father Henry Onslow Clarke deceased. She was living at 8 Keith Grove, Shepherds Bush."
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16 Feb 2019 21:06 |
Record Transcription: 1911 Census For England & Wales
9 Holly Villas Hampton Hill Middlesex, Hampton, Middlesex, England
Maud MacKrory's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Alfred MacKrory Head Married Male 22 1889 Tramway Motorman Farmham Bucks Maud MacKrory Wife Married Female 21 1890 - Hornsey London Frank MacKrory Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Tramway Motorman Holborn London
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safc
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16 Feb 2019 21:05 |
????
Record Transcription: 1911 Census For England & Wales
40 Waterloo Road Leyton, Low Leyton, London & Essex, England
Maud Jane Clarke's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place George William Clarke Head Married Male 61 1850 Railway Checker Clapham Surrey Eliza Clarke Wife Married Female 64 1847 - Melton Suffolk Arthur Clarke Son Single Male 32 1879 Porter Hackney Essex Maud Jane Clarke Daughter Single Female 22 1889 Machinist Old Ford Essex Arthur Stringer Son In Law Married Male 31 1880 Bricklayer Hornsey Middlesex Eliza Emma Stringer Daughter Married Female 29 1882 - Old Ford Essex Doris Maud Avis Stringer Granddaughter - Female 0 1911 - Leyton Essex
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ArgyllGran
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16 Feb 2019 20:55 |
Edna was a second wife.
Here's his first marriage:
John Morris Mackrory in the Ontario, Canada, The Ottawa Journal (Birth, Marriage and Death Notices), 1885-1980 Name: John Morris Mackrory Gender: Male Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 16 Jul 1947 Father: A J Mackrory Mother: Mackrory Spouse: Maisie Jarrett Notes: Marriage
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ArgyllGran
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16 Feb 2019 20:49 |
A well-researched tree on Ancestry says John was born in Toronto, and married on 16 July 1947 to an unnamed wife, and later to Edna (surname kept private).
1949, living in Hamilton, Ontario - still there in 1953., 1968, 1972. Maud died 1 June 1951 at 581 O'Connor Street, Ottawa, Canada.
"Described in obituary notice as being survived by her 3 sisters and 1 brother in England. Also one son Maurice of Hamilton, Ontario. Her nickname was Queenie."
Alfred died 15 Oct 1964 • 725 Bernard Street, Carlton, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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16 Feb 2019 20:49 |
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looks like 2 different
maud j clarke's
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16 Feb 2019 20:44 |
Record Transcription: Canadian Headstones Index What can I do with this record? Attach this record as a source to a person on your tree. Also update people and relatives with details from this record First name(s) Maud J Last name MacKrory Year - Inscription MACKRORY\n\nMaud J.\n1889 - 1951\n\nAlfred J.\n1888 - 1964\n\nat rest Place Pinecrest, Ottawa - Section K County Carleton (Incl. Ottawa) Province Ontario Country Canada Record set Canadian Headstones Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Americas, Canada
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16 Feb 2019 20:44 |
???? England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Maud Welfare
Record: Civil Marriage & Divorce Record
Location: London, England
First name(s) MAUD J Last name WELFARE Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1888 Age 80 Death quarter 4 Death year 1968 District Barking County Essex Volume 5A Page 27 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England
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16 Feb 2019 20:34 |
Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%) Clarke Maud J Welfare Sheppey 2a 2056 INGRAM Hetty M Sedgley Sheppey 2a 2056 Ledgley Ernest P Ingram Sheppey 2a 2056 Welfare Alfred H Clarke Sheppey 2a 2056
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16 Feb 2019 20:32 |
Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%) Blackburn Henry Thomas Fulham 1a 513 CLARKE Maude Jane Fulham 1a 513 Mackrory Alfred John Fulham 1a 513 TIMBURY Beatrice Louisa Fulham 1a 513 TINSBURT Beatrice Louisa Fulham 1a 513
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16 Feb 2019 20:30 |
Alan A Welfare on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Welfare Household (3 People) 30 Walnut Tree Road , Dagenham M.B., Essex, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Alan A Welfare 30 Oct 1925 Male At School Single 15 3 Alfred H Welfare 02 Feb 1889 Male Bus Cleaner (L P T B) Married 15 1 Maud J Welfare 15 Sep 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 15 2
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16 Feb 2019 20:26 |
Record Transcription: Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Maud MacKrory
Province Quebec First name(s) Alfred Last name MacKrory Gender Male Age 22 Birth year 1889 Marital status M Occupation BUTCHER Departure year 1911 Departure day 28 Departure month 6 Departure port Bristol Destination port Quebec Destination QUEBEC Country Canada Destination country Canada Ship name Royal Edward Ship official number 125656 Ship master's first name WILLIAM Ship master's last name ROBERTS Shipping line ROYAL LINE CANADIAN NORTHERN STEAMSHIPS LIMITED City BRISTOL Ship destination port MONTREAL Ship destination country CANADA Ship square feet 10054 Ship registered tonnage 5669 Number of passengers 894 Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 Category Travel & migration Subcategory Passenger Lists Collections from Great Britain, England, Canada, Americas
traveling with wife maud
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