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Terence
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14 Feb 2019 13:22 |
Hi.Researching for a friend, I've been asked to try and find family/ancestors of a Thomas Smallwood.Not much detail unfortunately,except he married a Mary Caden,1940 at West Hartlepool,Co.Durham.Mary was apparently born in Gateshead in 1915.Father was Henry Caden and his wife Was Annie McGinn.
Any help greatly appreciated,Terry L.
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ErikaH
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14 Feb 2019 13:39 |
Have you done any research yourself?
The obvious suggestion is that your friend gets a copy of the marriage cert, to find out how old Smallwood was, and his father's name - if he knew him
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Maddie
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14 Feb 2019 13:44 |
mary not with them in 1939
Caden Household (3 People) 81 Westbourne Road , West Hartlepool C.B., Durham, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Henry Caden 19 May 1889 Male Joiner Carriage & Wagon Department L N E R Married 257 1 Annie Caden 03 May 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 257 2 Cecilia M Watson (Caden) 06 Sep 1916 Female ? Assistant Flour Corn Retailer Single 257 3
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ErikaH
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14 Feb 2019 13:46 |
1939
Peveler Household (20 People) 16 Airwille Private Ho Victoria Avenue , Harrogate M.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Mary Smallwood (Cade) ? ? 1914 Female Shop Assistant Single 58 17
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ErikaH
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14 Feb 2019 13:49 |
Name: Mary Smallwood Death Age: 78 Birth Date: 1 Dec 1914 Registration Date: Aug 1993 Registration district: Durham Western Inferred County: Durham Register Number: A34C District and Subdistrict: 4421A
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KathleenBell
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14 Feb 2019 13:55 |
Thomas and Mary had 3 children in West Hartlepool in 1942, 1947 and 1950. Possible marriage for the youngest child in 1976.
There is an address in Hartlepool up to 2018 for the couple married in 1976.
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MargaretM
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14 Feb 2019 13:59 |
Mary's parents' marriage:
Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
CADEN Henry McGinn Gateshead 10a 1568 McGINN Annie Caden Gateshead 10a 1568
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KathleenBell
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14 Feb 2019 14:01 |
As Erika has already said, you need the marriage certificate for addresses and hopefully for Thomas's father's name and occupation.
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Terence
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14 Feb 2019 14:08 |
Thanks to all.Did some research myself and found quite a lot on Caden Family but nothing on Smallwood ancestors.
Terry L
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KathleenBell
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14 Feb 2019 14:11 |
Do you know when Thomas was born and where?
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Terence
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14 Feb 2019 14:35 |
Hi,Kathleen.I did some research and did find a lot on Caden family but virtually nothing on Smallwood family.Thomas birth place not known. Terry L.
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Catherine
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14 Feb 2019 14:47 |
possible probate
Name: Thomas Smallwood Death Date: 15 Mar 1994 Death Place: Hartlepool Cleveland Probate Date: 10 May 1994 Registry: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne ..........of 43 Queensbury Ave. Hartlepool £201,681
which would give this as his death
Name: Thomas Smallwood Death Age: 80 Birth Date: 24 Oct 1913 Registration Date: Mar 1994 Registration district: Central Cleveland Inferred County: Cleveland Register Number: D46 District and Subdistrict: 3481D
which shows dob as 24 Oct 1913
possible birth:- Name: Thomas Smallwood Mother's Maiden Name: Flanigan Registration Year: 1913 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Guisborough Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 919 ...............................
Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
Flanigan Mary Middlesbro' 9d 1013 Smallwood Thomas Middlesbro' 9d 1013 ...................................
This looks to be above family in 1911 Name: Thomas Smallwood Age in 1911: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1878 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Mickleby, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Coatham County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding Country: England Street address: 54 James Tarrace Warrenby Redcar Marital status: Married Occupation: Police Co Nstable Registration district: Guisborough Registration District Number: 534 Sub-registration district: Marske ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Piece: 29183 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Smallwood 33 Mary Smallwood 34 Mary Smallwood 6 Gladys May Smallwood 5 John Smallwood 3 Catherine Smallwood 2 Helen Smallwood 23 ............................
death of father above Name: Thomas Smallwood Death Age: 57 Birth Date: abt 1877 Registration Date: Dec 1934 Registration district: Whitby Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding Volume: 9d Page: 510 ............................so he wouldn't be on 1939
Mary in 1939
Name: Mary Smallwood Gender: Female Marital status: Widowed Birth Date: 17 Sep 1876 Residence Year: 1939 Address: TRAVELLERS REST. Strockton Road Residence Place: West Hartlepool, Durham, England Occupation: Hotel Licensee Schedule Number: 221 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: FEOI Registration district: 545/2 Household Members: Name Mary Smallwood General G Thompson This record is officially closed. Josephine Smallwood Birth Date: 30 Aug 1915 Kathleen Flanigan This record is officially closed. Muriel Merlin Lily Merlin ............................... SMALLWOOD, JOSEPHINE FLANIGAN GRO Reference: 1915 S Quarter in WHITBY Volume 09D Page 820 ..................................
death of Mary Name: Mary Smallwood Death Age: 65 Birth Date: abt 1877 Registration Date: Jun 1942 Registration district: West Hartlepool Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 207
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safc
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14 Feb 2019 14:52 |
Thomas Smallwood on the 1939 Register
1939 Register Transcription
Smallwood Household (2 People) 95 Hollinhall Street , Oldham C.B., Lancashire, England Add to tree View original image Print First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Thomas Smallwood 24 Oct 1913 Male Bustian Weaver Married 9 1 Elfreda Smallwood 09 Feb 1902 Female Corbonation Bus Driver Married 9 2
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Mary
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14 Feb 2019 15:01 |
Mary Smallwood of 43,Queensbury Avenue Hartlepool died 23/8/1993 born 1/12/1914
Mary Smallwood 1/12/1914 left new York arrived Southampton 10/10/1955 her address was Travellers Rest Hotel Hartlepool occupation Hotel Manageress
Thomas Smallwood of 43 Queensbury Avenue died 15/3/1994 he was born 24/10/1913,I can't find him in 1939!
A tree on ancestry has Thomas with same date of birth and death, he was born North Yorkshire registered V9d P919 in Guisborough to Thomas Smallwood 1878-1934 in the police force in 1911 and Mary Flanigan born Middlesborough 1876-1942
1939 Mary Smallwood born 17/9/1876 (Mother to Thomas 1913) Hotel licensee Travellers Rest Hartlepool Josephine Smallwood born 1915 married a Mr Joyce Kathleen Flanigan born 1883
So it seems to be the correct Thomas who married Mary Caden in 1940 do you agree?
Maryb.
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Maddie
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14 Feb 2019 15:48 |
marys departure and arrival
Name: Mary Smallwood Gender: Female Departure Date: 29 Aug 1955 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Maasdam Search Ship Database: Search for the Maasdam in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Holland-American Line
Name: Mary Smallwood Arrival Age: 40 Birth Date: 1 Dec 1914 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: 10 Oct 1955 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: New York Ship Name: Queen Mary Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd Official Number: 7602/01
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Catherine
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14 Feb 2019 16:40 |
Ancestry version of 1939 posted by safc
Name: Thomas H Smallwood Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 1 May 1915 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 95 Residence Place: Oldham, Lancashire, England Occupation: Brass Foundry Furnaceman Plate Moulder Heavy Wor Schedule Number: 9 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: NLDJ Registration district: 469/1 Inferred Spouse: Elfreda Smallwood Household Members: Name Thomas H Smallwood Elfreda Smallwood Birth Date: 24 Oct 1913 (Occupation: Fustian Weaver)
.............so there seems to be some discrepency between them both. This Thomas is Thomas H. and original gives his dob as 1 May 1915, so looks as though it is not correct Thomas.
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Catherine
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14 Feb 2019 18:12 |
found on following site, could be interesting.
http://www.newmp.org.uk/article.php?categoryid=100&articleid=111&displayorder=40
1939-45 Military and Civilian names beginning with S Extracted from the Northern Daily Mail by the late S F Reed 31/05/2019
Smallwood T. Gunner 4/11/1944, message home on film, Travellers Rest, West Hartlepool, page 2, Column 5
looks to be Thomas, on film, maybe possible to view somehow?
Article in paper says:-
An army welfare film of Durham men in Burma, recording messages to their wives and relatives, was screened at Sunderland yesterday by Capt. J.Anderson, Army Welfare Officer for the Sunderland area. Amongst those who stepped forward and gave messages were (here there are other soldiers named, then) Gnr T Smallwood, Travellers Rest Hotel, West Hartlepool. The major of Sunderland presented each next of kin with a 'still' and also a negative from which to make other prints.
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14 Feb 2019 18:27 |
Catherine's version from Ancestry is correct when looking at the original.
FMP has been transcribed wrongly in that it's a line out.
Thomas has been wrongly given Elfreda's DOB and occupation and she has the DOB and occupation of the person on the line below , the next door neighbour !
Have reported and asked how many other lines have been wrongly transcribed.
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Catherine
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14 Feb 2019 19:03 |
I don't have an account with findmypast anymore so could someone look up Thomas on WW2 Military records please.
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rootgatherer
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14 Feb 2019 22:07 |
As far as I am aware, WW2 records are not available online.
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