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The above named John c1778 married Sarah Castlehouse in 1805 at St Nicholas, Liverpool. The parents of John tho has been my brickwall. His wife Sarah Castlehouse I believe to be the daughter of Robert Castlehouse and Isabel Whiteley.

Many thanks

Unless you can find a baptism, you will not be able to discover his father's name

Have you any idea about where he might have been born?

What leads you to think he was born c1778?

There first daughter Mary 1802 - I have put C. *(Circa) as I am unsure of a date).

So the daughter was illegitimate

Where have you looked?

Name: Mary Houghton
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1802
Baptism Date: 23 May 1802
Baptism Place: St Nicholas,Liverpool,Lancashire,England
Father: John Houghton
Mother: Sarah Castlehouse

Another child

Name: Thomas Haughton
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 16 Dec 1810
Baptism Place: St Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: John Haughton
Mother: Sarah Castlehouse
FHL Film Number: 93873

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Sarah
Last name Castlehouse
Birth year -
Residence Orms
Denomination Church Of England
Baptism year 1778
Baptism date 06 Sep 1778
Baptism place Ormskirk, Ss Peter & Paul
Diocese Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Robt
Mother's first name(s) Betty
Archive Lancashire Record Office
Archive reference PR 2886/7

Mark seems to think he knows who Sarah's parents were

from a tree on ancestry

robert

Birth
abt 1746

1746

(AGE)
Marriage
16 Aug 1772 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

It is my conjecture that "Isabel" is really Betty Whiteley, as no other wedding is recorded.
ELIZABETH Whiteley

(1748–1824)

1772

26
Birth of Son John Castlehouse(1773–)
1773 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

1773

27
Birth of Daughter ANN Castlehouse(1775–1838)
abt 1775 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

1775

29
Birth of Daughter Margery Castlehouse(1776–)
abt 1776 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

1776

30
Birth of Daughter Mary Castlehouse(1782–)
1782 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

1782

36
Birth of Son William Castlehouse(1784–)
1784 • Ormskirk, Lancashire, England

1784

38
Birth of Son Robert Castlehouse(1789–)
23 Apr 1789 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England

1789

43
Death
May 1823 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England

1823

77
Burial
25 May 1823 • Liverpool, St John, Lancashire, England


Name
Robert Castlehouse
Gender
Male
Event Type
Marriage
Event Date
16 Aug 1772
Parish
Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Search Photos
Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map
4884
Spouse
Isabell Whiteley

Elizabeth Castlehouse
Burial Date
7 Jul 1824
Burial Parish
Liverpool, St John, Lancashire, England
Search Photos
Liverpool, St John, Lancashire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map
4835


But they have no sarah as a daughter

Thank you! Will recheck my details and get back to you. Much appreciated

Baptism: 2 Jun 1773 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
John Castlehouse - Son of Robert Castlehouse & Elizabeth
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 10, Entry 21
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 14 May 1775 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Ann Castlehouse - Daughter of Robert Castlehouse & Elizabeth
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 18, Entry 30
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 26 Jan 1777 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Marjery Castlehouse - Daughter of Robert Castlehouse & Betty
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 26, Entry 20
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 6 Sep 1778 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Sarah Castlehouse - Daughter of Robt Castlehouse & Betty
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 32, Entry 42
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 4 Sep 1782 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Mary Castlehouse - Daughter of Robert Castlehouse & Betty
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 52, Entry 34
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Burial: 23 Mar 1783 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Mary Castlehouse - Daughter of Robert Castlehouse & Betty
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Burials 1771 - 1794, Page 40
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Burial: 8 Mar 1784 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Robert Castlehouse - Son of Robert Castlehouse & Betty
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Notes: Poor
Register: Burials 1771 - 1794, Page 44
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 14 Mar 1784 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England
Wm Castlehouse - Son of Robert Castlehouse & Betty
Abode: Orms[kirk]
Register: Baptisms 1771 - 1794, Page 60, Entry 33
Source: LDS Film 1849663

Baptism: 9 May 1790 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Castlehouse - Son of Robert Castlehouse & Elizabeth
Born: 23 Apr 1790
Abode: Ray street
Occupation: Mason
Register: Baptisms 1790, Page 220, Entry 408
Source: LDS Film 93833

there is these ????

Baptism: 17 Oct 1773 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Houghton - Son of John Houghton
Born: 1 Oct 1773
Occupation: Barber

father
urial: 9 Dec 1800 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Houghton -
Age: 60 yrs
Abode: Hanover St.
Occupation: Hairdresser
Register: Burials 1795 - 1804, Page 90, Entry 332
Source: LDS Film 93873

Baptism: 13 Sep 1778 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Houghton - Son of James Houghton
Born: 22 Aug 1778
Abode: Pitt Street
Occupation: Potter
Register: Baptisms 1776 - 1779, Page 27, Entry 23
Source: LDS Film 1656377

The second of the ones suggested above

First name(s) John
Last name Houghton
Gender Male
Birth year 1778
Birth place -
Baptism year 1778
Baptism date 13 Sep 1778
Death date 05 Apr 1780*********************
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Houghton

John Houghton
England and Wales Census, 1841

Name: John Houghton
Titles and Terms: NULL
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Event Place: Walton On The Hill, Lancashire, England
Residence Note: Grey Horse
Gender: Male
Age: 60-64
Age: 60
Occupation: Null
Birth Year (Estimated): 1777-1781
Birthplace: Lancashire
Registration District: Derby, West
Parish: Walton On The Hill
County: Lancashire
Page Number: 4
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 520/6
Affiliate Record Type: Institution
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Houghton Male 60-64 Lancashire
Betty Houghton Female 60-64 Lancashire
Mary Houghton Female 30-34 Lancashire
Elizabeth Houghton Female 20-24 Lancashire

Baptism: 23 May 1802 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Houghton - dau. of John Houghton & Sarah (formerly Castlehouse), His Wife
Born: 16 Apr 1802
Abode: Westmoreland Street
Occupation: Labourer
Register: Baptisms 1802 - 1803, Page 157, Entry 513
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptism: 17 Feb 1805 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Houghton - son of John Houghton & Sarah (formerly Castlehouse)
Born: 20 Nov 1804
Abode: Westmoreland St
Occupation: Labourer
Register: Baptisms 1805, Entry 183
Source: LDS Film 1068889

Baptism: 19 Feb 1809 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Houghton - Son of John Houghton & Sarah (formerly Castlehouse), His Wife
Born: 29 Dec 1808
Abode: Naylor Street
Occupation: Labourer
Register: Baptisms 1809, Page 374, Entry 215
Source: LDS Film 93833

Baptism: 16 Dec 1810 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Haughton - Son of John Haughton & Sarah (formerly Castlehouse)
Born: 16 Nov 1810
Abode: Naylor St
Occupation: Labourer
Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1812, Page 288, Entry 21
Source: LDS Film 1656377

To those who have assisted me with the above details I would just like to confirm that I have made the necessary changes to my tree and am extremely grateful to all for your input. I now have a JAMES Houghton - father of John Houghton 1778

Erikah posted this

The second of the ones suggested above

First name(s) John
Last name Houghton
Gender Male
Birth year 1778
Birth place -
Baptism year 1778
Baptism date 13 Sep 1778
Death date 05 Apr 1780*********************
Place Liverpool
County Lancashire
Country England
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Houghton

but street address and occupation different to baptism

Baptism: 13 Sep 1778 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Houghton - Son of James Houghton
Born: 22 Aug 1778
Abode: Pitt Street
Occupation: Potter
Register: Baptisms 1776 - 1779, Page 27, Entry 23
Source: LDS Film 1656377

Burial: 5 Apr 1780 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Houghton - son of James Houghton
Abode: Peter Street
Occupation: Plasterer
Buried by: Joseph Bowes Curate
Register: Burials 1779 - 1780, Page 43, Entry 31

so maybe not the same john

Name: James Houghton
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1775
Marriage Place: Saint Peter Church Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Margaret Barton
FHL Film Number: 1068921
Reference ID: 2:11Q0HJ8

a sister
Baptism: 15 May 1774 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Alice Houghton - Daughter of James Houghton
Born: 6 May 1774
Occupation: Potter
Register: Baptisms 1772 - 1776, Page 76, Entry 6
Source: LDS Film 1656377

brother
Baptism: 8 Dec 1776 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Houghton - Son of James Houghton
Born: 29 Nov 1776
Abode: Liver Street
Occupation: Potter
Register: Baptisms 1776 - 1779, Page 9, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1656377

Burial: 7 Nov 1781 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Houghton - son of James Houghton, Decd.
Abode: Work house
Occupation: Potter
Register: Burials 1781 - 1784, Page 58, Entry 23
Source: LDS Film 93913

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Burial: 8 Nov 1779 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Houghton -
Abode: Pitt Street
Occupation: Cooper ----------- ?????
Buried by: John Shewell Curate
Register: Burials 1779 - 1780, Page 38, Entry 14

Burial: 17 May 1748 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Jonathan Houghton -
Occupation: Ship Wright
Register: Burials 1737 - 1748, Page 203, Entry 17
Source: LDS Film 1656376

Baptism: 6 May 1739 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Houghton - Son of Jonathan Houghton
Born: 21 Apr
Abode: Dock Gates
Occupation: Ship Wt.
Register: Baptisms 1737 - 1754, Page 9, Entry 17
Source: LDS Film 1656376

Could I please once again ask for some assistance in finding a possible marriage for

James Houghton and his wife Margaret who had the following children

Alice 1774
James 1776
John 1778

I will be updating as and when responses come in.

Many thanks as always

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