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Thanks Erika, I always check info before recording it as 'fact' ! :-)

Name: Jas Abraham Richmond
Age: 64
Estimated birth year: 1797
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Stepney St Dunstan
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Dunstan
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 296
Piece: 285
Folio: 78
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gates 68
Elizabeth Gates 67
Marian Gates 21
Elizabeth Gates 10
Jas Abraham Richmond 64 Wine & Spirit Merchant

Don't 'take' anything without doing some research

Frederick Perrin's parents


Rev Frederick E Perrin M A
in the Belfast, Northern Ireland, The Belfast Newsletter (Birth, Marriage and Death Notices), 1738-1925

View Belfast, Northern Ireland, The Belfast Newsletter (Birth, Marriage and Death Notices), 1738-1925

Name: Rev Frederick E Perrin M A
Gender: Male
Notice Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 17 Feb 1859
Marriage Place: Whalley, Lancashire
Spouse: Maria Wardle
Publication Date: 23 Feb 1859


Frederick junior's baptism
Name: Frederick Eugene Perrin
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1861
Baptism Date: 27 Jul 1862
Parish: Whitewell, Lancashire, England
Father: Frederick Eugene Perrin
Mother: Maria Perrin
Register Type: Parish Registers
Reference Number: Pr 2301

ErikaH, thanks for that, James Richmond remarried I take it?

Just checked out the 'Old Bailey' online, great website. All the details of the case.

1901

Name: Vivian M L Perrin
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Frederick E Perrin
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Rushden
Ecclesiastical parish: Rushden St Mary
Town: Rushden
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wellingborough
Sub-registration district: Higham Ferrers
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1440
Folio: 91
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick E Perrin 39
Vivian M L Perrin 30
Roland Perrin 6 - born South Australia

1911


Name: Roland Eugine Perrin
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Queen Resident, South Australia
Civil Parish: Denstone
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Denstone College, Denstone, Stafford
Marital status: Single
Occupation: student
Registration district: Uttoxeter
Registration District Number: 364
Sub-registration district: Uttoxeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 16726

Name: Roland E Perrin
Arrival Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1894
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 5 Nov 1915
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Baltic
Shipping Line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 118101


Name: Roland Eugene Perrin
Gender: Male
Age: 52
Birth Date: abt 1895
Departure Date: 22 Mar 1947
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Elysia
Shipping Line: Anchor Line Limited
Official Number: 169452
Master: Daniel Morrison

Name Roland Eugene Perrin
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1976
Event Place Victoria, Capital Regional District, British Columbia, Canada
Photograph Included N
Death Date 22 May 1976
Affiliate Record Identifier 121314330
Cemetery Ross Bay Cemetery

ame Roland Eugene Perrin
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1976
Registration District South Shields
County Durham
Event Place South Shields, Durham, England
Birth Date 23 Oct 1894
Volume 2
Page 1267
Affiliate Line Number 42


Name Roland E. Perrin
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 24 Jul 1923
Event Place Portsmouth, , New Hampshire
Age 29
Birth Year (Estimated) 1894
Father's Name Frederick E.
Mother's Name Vivian M. L. Allen
Spouse's Name Margot J. Moberly
Spouse's Age 28
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1895
Spouse's Father's Name Thomas E.
Spouse's Mother's Name Jeannie J. J. L. Hooper
Image of original doc is on familysearch

PERRIN, - ALLIN
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 125

female - no forename recorded

1911

Name: Vivien Perrin
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Carbrooke and Ovington
Street address: The Vicarage, Carbrooke, Thetford, Watton, Norfolk
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 17
Estimated Marriage Year: 1894
Registration district: Wayland
Registration District Number: 231
Sub-registration district: Watton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 11488
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick E Perrin 49 Clerk in Holy Orders, b. Waddington Yorks
Vivien Perrin 40
Elizabeth Melton 26
2 children born and living

Name: Vivien M L Allin
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Relationship: Governess
Birth Year: 1871
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Leighton Buzzard
Residence Place: Leighton Buzzard, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England
Sub registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, Institution or Vessel: 10
Piece: 1265
Folio: 38




Name: Vivian Maud Langford Allen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 27 Dec 1893
Marriage Place: St John Baptist, Broughton Near Preston, Lancashire, England
Father: John Henry Allen
Spouse: Frederick Eugene Perrin

ALLIN, VIVIEN MAUD LANGFORD RICHMOND
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 415

Name: Vivien Maud Langford Perrin
Death Date: 23 Oct 1951
Death Place: Canada
Probate Date: 22 Mar 1952
Registry: Victoria

Name: Vivien Allin
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Pulteney St, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: The Hollies Hornsey Lane
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 93b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 279
Folio: 21
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Allin 40
Emily M. Allin 35
Florence M. Allin 11
Gertrude Allin 8
Ernest Allin 6
Russell Allin
Vivien Allin 11

Name: Maria Mary A Allin
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Registration Year: 1876
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 28
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 210

Name: Ann M Allin
[Ann M Richmond]
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Henry Allin
Mother's name: Isabella Richmond
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: Berwick Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 83
Piece: 141
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Allin 30
Ann M Allin 20
Vivien L Allin 7 Months
Isabella Richmond 57 born Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, England

In 1851, Isabella says born Stepney.................

Name Mary Anna Maria Richmond
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Apr 1848
Christening Date (Original) 13 APR 1848
Christening Place SAINT DUNSTAN,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date 14 Mar 1848
Father's Name James Abraham Richmond
Mother's Name Isabella

1851

Name: Ann Maria Richmond
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James A Richmond
Mother's name: Isabella Richmond
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Piece: 1553
Folio: 450
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James A Richmond 48...............................Occ: Brewer
Isabella Richmond 26
Ann Maria Richmond 3

Name James Abraham Richmond
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1873
Registration District Pancras
County London
Event Place Pancras, London, England
Age 76
Birth Year (Estimated) 1797
Volume 1B
Page 19
Affiliate Line Number 161

Name James Abraham Richmond - widower
Event Type Probate
Event Date 10 Jul 1874
Event Place England, United Kingdom
Event Place Principal Registry
Beneficiary's Name Mary Anna Maria Allin - daughter and only NOK
Beneficiary 2 Name John Henry Allin


Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)

Allin John Henry Westminster St J 1a 591
RICHMOND Anna Maria M Westminster St J 1a 591


Name: Anna Maria Marie Richmond
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 31 Mar 1869
Marriage Place: Saint James,Westminster,London,England
Father: James Richmond
Spouse: John Henry Allin
FHL Film Number: 1042325

Thanks for all your help, sounds like they were spread to the four winds, a couple of them very young. I've been in touch with Rita Butler some 15 years ago, she is a very distant relative, maiden name Siggs. I will try getting in touch again.

On familysearch.............................. FREE


Name John Whiffen Richmond
Event Type Will
Event Date 19 Feb 1875
Event Place South Australia, Australia
Residence Place Redruth, South Australia

Name: Elizabeth Richmond
Age: 34
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1804
Death Date: abt 1838
Burial Date: 24 Feb 1838
Burial Place: All Saints, Poplar, Tower Hamlets, England


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Name: Elizabeth Richmond
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Date of Trial: Jul 1834
Trial Year: 1834
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England - Old Bailey
Sentence: Imprisonment - 2 years
Crime: Larceny

There is a SIGGS tree on Ancestry with much of this information.
Siggs Family Tree - ritabutler181

If it's not yours you may be able to access via your local library

No info on John Whiffin or Joseph Cracherode past their baptisms on either tree

Just a wild possibility for Joseph Cracherode -

A patient at the Margate Sea Bathing Infirmary:

Joseph Richmond
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Joseph Richmond
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St John The Baptist Margate
Hundred: Ringslow
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Isle of Thanet
Sub-registration district: Margate
Neighbors:
Piece: 468
Book: 6
Folio: 70
Page Number: 6