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Dear Joe
Even if it turns out that there was a second marriage..It just so happens that you cannot change anything from the past. what's in the past is in the past..You can not go back and re-write the books.These kind of discoveries happen along the way.We can dwell on them or move on...I wish you well in what ever you discover Joe
All the best Gwen
Be sure to let us know :-) Getting quite curious now :-) Good luck :-)

Don't worry! If it turns out to be a fact. I would rather know. If not. Then no harm done. Obviously there are major questions to be answered depending on the outcome. No need to apologise. Ill let you know the result of my investigation.
I looked into a pandora's box so shouldn't be surprised to find things I never knew.
Take care and will be in touch.

Joe :-) :-)

Hi Joe
I am so sorry if I caused you any distress in any way but I can assure you that I did not delve any deeper than Glady hammersley who married Walter bradshaw..as.. I did'nt need to ..That part is for you to discover
With all very best wishes
Gwen

Thank you for the explanation. I am feeling my way around a little blind. I will indeed
order the marriage certificate. Peter was the last person who could have verified this. If only I had learned of this last year. I will indeed obtain the marriage cert. Out of courtesy I will let you know the outcome. Thank you again.

None of us (except possibly Cane - we don't know) have any connection to your family.
We are just volunteers who enjoy helping other people with their family history problems, brick walls,etc. It's the thrill of the detective work which has us hooked!

Unless Cane has knowledge which she hasn't shared with us on her thread, the only way to know for sure if the Colin who married Margaret was your father or some other Colin Bradshaw, is to buy a copy of the marriage certificate.
You can do that online at this site:
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

You have to register (free), and then you can order a copy (£11) quoting the reference numbers and other details which you can find here:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Select Marriages, then enter the surnames Bradshaw and Francis, and date range 1955-1955.
No need in this case to select any district or county name - it's the only marriage which will come up.

I am also sending you a personal message with some other information - look out for an email from GR - it might go into your junk mail.

Hello Joseph, other than 'Cane' who posted the query those who contribute here are unconnected, we are just fellow site members who try and help with queries if we can.

While it does 'appear' to be the same Colin, it's always a possibility that it isn't, the best way of being certain is to buy the marriage certificate, which will give Colin's father's name. You can order certificates online at the https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

On the face of it it does seem possible that Colin, if it is the same one, was married to Margaret in 1955, but as there is a possible remarriage for her in 1958 it could be that the marriage was a very brief one. EDIT: it looks unlikely that the possible second marriage found is hers, so may well be an entirely different lady.

I'm sure Cane will reply soon. :-)

Thank you. Firstly. What is everyone's connection to my Dad and Grand parents.
Secondly. My Dad Colin was married to my Mum in 1958. I was 10 when my Dad died of a heart attack while mowing the lawn on 6th July 1969. I found his body.
My Mum and I were estranged from my Grandad and Step Grandmother almost immediately after my Dads death. I had no contact with the Bradshaw family until my Dads cousin Peter tracked me down in 2009. After which we had regular contact until his death earlier this year at the age of 87.
I haven't a clue how to research family. Are you sure it is the same Colin who married this woman in 1955? Any help or information would e very welcome.

Hi Joseph - you do sound a little shocked and somewhat overwhelmed by what you have 'fallen into' on here !!!

Take things a little slowly and absorb all you can find on here - then ask a few questions.................

Don;t be put off - you are very welcome here on the boards................

Dea x

Joseph, Although Cane is a regular on the boards, she may not notice your post here, so it may be an idea to click on her name and send a private message?

I have just joined Genes Re United. I am Joseph Bradshaw the son of Colin Bradshaw and the Grandson of Walter Bradshaw and Gladys Hammersley. I have just been reading this thread. I am a little shocked as it seems to read that my Dad was married to a Margaret Francis in 1955. This is news to me and the first I have heard of it. Could you please clarify your interest and connection with the Bradshaws. Obviously I am very curious. My only contact with the Bradshaws following Colins death in 1969 was Colins first cousin Peter Bradshaw. He was Walters nephew. He passed away last January and I was with him to near the end. He never mentioned anything like this.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Many

The Margaret P Francis who was born 1937 in Manchester is probably the right person.

But there's no obvious record of her after 1955, so as already said, she may well still be alive.

There are three births with the surname of that 1959 bridegroom, and with mms Bradshaw, 1959, 61, and 64, in Manchester and Peterborough.

If they belong to that couple, then that Margaret isn't Margaret P Francis.

there is a margaret p born 1938 in manchester, married 1959 in manchester

She may well be on the ER, so discretion is needed

Can’t possibly look for a death without knowing when she was born

Her age when she married will be on the marriage cert

A look at the probate record site - https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk

shows possible probate records from 2006 to 2018 in various parts of the country. Not knowing if she has died or where, it could be one of them - or not! Registry used does not necessarily indicate area the person lived.

Make sure to click on the right date period and use the Advanced search so you can input first name (only possible 1996 - present)

When was she born?
What does the P stand for?

There are lots of deaths of women named Margaret Bradshaw in Lancashire as well as elsewhere - but none with middle initial P, as far as I can see.

Assuming she's about the same age as Colin, she may well be alive.

EDIT:

If she was born in Manchester, then there's a 1937 birth which looks likely.

If that's her, I don't see a likely death. Of course, she may have died in just the last few years, in which case it won't be online yet.

Or she may have remarried.
A Margaret P Bradshaw married in Southampton in 1973.

EDIT AGAIN:
No, that's not her re-marriage.
There are two births in 1973 and 1974 in Southampton and Bournemouth, with mms Bradshaw.

Any-one with Ancestry, please could you look up death details for Margaret P Bradshaw....Many , Many thanks in advance x
possibly Manchester or Salford x

Thanks so much Erica...You're a star :-)

First name(s) COLIN
Last name BRADSHAW
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1955
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

COLIN BRADSHAW married

Margaret P Francis

Spouse's last name Francis
District Manchester
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England