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England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials

First name(s) Francis
Last name Lemandine
Age 61
Birth year 1780
Death year 1841
Death date ? ? 1841
Burial year 1841
Burial date 02 Apr 1841
Place Greenwich
Denomination Anglican
County Kent
Country England
The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/1674
Description KENT: Greenwich, Greenwich Hospital (Anglican): Burials
Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Death:

LEMANDINE, FRANCIS 61
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 177


Looking at BDMs, there seem to have been at least three families of that name (or variation of spelling) in the general area - Bethnal Green / Shoreditch

I did write a post but it seems to have disappeared but I was saying that at first I had thought that Francis + Elizabeth had possibly had a William in 1823 who then died and then they had another one c1834. However, the baptism in 1848 disproves that.

I would not have been surprised if he lied about his age when he married Emma as she was younger than him, BUT, the 1851 and 1861 census also put his age at c1834 so I am totally confused.

Dea x

i wonder if william had to show a baptism record to start his apprenticeship as a gold engraver as there was no birth certs till 1837

could 1823 be 1833??

Better to have the info twice than not at all Kucinta!! ;-)

Dea x

Not sure if this has been posted - no image:

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: William Lamendin
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 8 Nov 1823<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1848<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Baptism Place: Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England
Father: Francis Lamendin
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 396242, 396243, 396244

HOWEVER, this record has image:

London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

Name: William Lamendin
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1848
Baptism Place: Shoreditch St Leonard, Hackney, England
Father: Francis Lamendin
Mother: Elizabeth Lamendin

Birthdate 8th Nov 1823 in the margin. Occupation fanstick maker, but not sure if that refers to William or Francis.

EDIT: Apologies, I now realise you already had this baptism.

Strangely, there is a second Elizabeth Lemontine on the 1841 ??

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Vincent Street, St Matthew Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
James Fenn Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England
Ann Fenn Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
Betsey Fenn Female 1 1840 Middlesex, England
Benjamin Springham Male 40 1801 Middlesex, England
Sarah Springham Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
Eliza Springham Female 14 1827 Middlesex, England
William Springham Male 7 1834 Middlesex, England
Joseph Springham Male 4 1837 Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Springham Female 14 1827 Middlesex, England
Richard Got Male 31 1810 -
Elizabeth Got Female 32 1809 Middlesex, England
Mary Got Female 12 1829 Middlesex, England

Elizabeth Lemontine Female 60 1781 Middlesex, England ***
Elizabeth Barton Female 60 1781 Middlesex, England
James Sharp Male 30 1811 Middlesex, England
Sarah Sharp Female 30 1811 Middlesex, England
James Sharp Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England
Richard Sharp Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England

Eliza Haywood Female 35 1806 Middlesex, England
Edward Haywood Male 10 1831 Middlesex, England
George Haywood Male 5 1836 Middlesex, England
Fanny Haywood Female 10 1831 Middlesex, England
Mary Haywood Female 1 1840 Middlesex, England

Dea x

To all those very kind genealogists who have answered so quickly - a very big thanks indeed. Your work will speed up my work immeasurably on this very difficult surname, and not only does it give me additional information on the 'main line', but all those siblings give me probably years of work ahead! There are obviously several branches of this family, and plenty of work to do. I can't believe how quickly you have all replied, and maybe I can help some of YOU in the future. Thanks again.

Elizabeth Lemonitine
in the London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2003
Name: Elizabeth Lemonitine
Age: 98
Record Type: Death
Birth Date: abt 1783
Death Date: 22 Jan 1881
Death Poor Law Union: Shoreditch
Death Place: Shoreditch, Hackney, England

I keep looking at this one and wondering why Elizabeth has 2 children called James with her - could it be a mistake and the younger one is your William?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bonners Street, St Matthew Bethnal Green, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

James Lemontine's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Lemontine Female 55 1786 Middlesex, England - Green Grocer
James Lemontine Male 15 1826 Middlesex, England - labourer
George Lemontine Male 11 1830 Middlesex, England
James Lemontine Male 8 1833 Middlesex, England


Dea x

William Lamendin

Record: Civil Marriage & Divorce Record

Location: London, England

Year of marriage: 1869

James William Lamendin


First name(s) William
Last name Lamendin
Gender Male
Birth year 1823
Birth place -
Baptism year 1848
Baptism date 13 Dec 1848
Place Shoreditch
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's last name Lamendin
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Text only - no image, no date

Francis Lamendin in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Francis Lamendin
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth
Child: William Lamendin

??
Francis Lamendine
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917

April 22nd 1832

Name: Francis Lamendine
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth Lamendine
Child: Louisa Matilda Lamendine born 23 Feb 1832

Also same day - son George born 14 April 1830

Of Curtain Road
Francis a Carman

???
Name: Francis Lamendin
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1818
Marriage Place: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Jones
Register Type: Parish Register

Image shows she was a Widow.
Both signed
Witnesses - William ?? and James ??

No idea if this is anything to do with the family - but comes up amongst many others as suggested Records when inputting Francis Lamendin

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 No Image

Name: Francois Lamendin
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1782
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1782
Baptism Place: LA Patente French Huguenot,Spitalfields,London,England
Father: Jean Baptiste Lamendin
Mother: Marie Alsbrey
FHL Film Number: 0466704 IT 3-7
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This one is written in French on the original -

François Lamandin
in the England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1970

Name: François Lamandin
Birth Date: 23 Nov 1782
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Father: Jean Br Lamendin
Mother: Marie Alsbrey
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1782
Baptism Place: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Denomination: French Protestant
Piece Title: Piece 4596: Eglise de la Patente, Brown's Lane, Spitalfields (French Protestant), 1759-1785

Ancestry's 1851 transcription gives name as Lemendine - see above.
Not as bad as FMP !

William Lamendin
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: William Lamendin
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1869
Marriage Place: St John of Jerusalem, South Hackney, Hackney, England
Father: Francis Lamendin
Spouse: Emma Elizabeth Watts
Register Type: Parish Register

Image shows -
Married by Banns 25.12.1869
Both of full age
He's a Bachelor - an engraver residing in south Hackney. Father Francis Lamedin a Walking Stick Maker
She's a Spinster also of South Hackney, Father Richard Watts a ?(Crape) Dresser
Both signed
Witnesses ?( Hammend) Watts and Hannah ?(Vicat)

Bit of a mess in 1851 with his name -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Northampton Street, Clerkenwell, London & Middlesex, England

William Lewiendine's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Holliday Head Married Male 27 1824 Engraver Canterbury, Kent, England
Mary Ann Holliday Wife Married Female 28 1823 - Rochester, Kent, England
James Piggott Holliday Son Unmarried Male 3 1848 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
George Holliday Son Unmarried Male 1 1850 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
William Lewiendine Apprentice Unmarried Male 17 1834 Engraver Apprentice Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Chas. Lamandy
mentioned in the record of Bartholomew Lamandy





Name: Chas. Lamandy
Sex: Male
Son: Bartholomew Lamandy
Other information in the record of Bartholomew Lamandy
from England Deaths and Burials

Name: Bartholomew Lamandy
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 06 Feb 1737
Burial Place: St Dunstan, Stepney, Middlesex, England
Father's Name: Chas. Lamandy

Charles Lamandy
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 21 October 1722 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
spouse: Frances Vandersteen