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Doreen
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4 Jan 2019 17:51 |
I'm looking for John and Ann Bevan both parents from Builth, Wales
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4 Jan 2019 18:40 |
Welcome to the boards Doreen.
Reading your post from here, I'm not sure whether you mean John and Ann are siblings and you want to know both of their parents OR whether you've found John and Ann as a couple on a census and want to know the parents of both of them, bearing in mind she is unlikely to have been born a Bevan?
Please help us to help you and let us know how you got to them - as much info as you can.
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4 Jan 2019 18:47 |
If it is a couple you're looking for, there is this couple in Builth in 1841 - as ages were rounded down on the 1841 census if over 15, then Both John and Anne could be aged 35-39 and so born 1802-1806
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Gwurfelin, Llanfechan, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place John Bevan Male 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales Ag. Lab Anne Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales Anne Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales John Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales Margaret Bevan Female 7 1834 Breconshire, Wales Mary Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales Margaret Morgans Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales
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4 Jan 2019 18:54 |
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Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Dderwenddw, Llangynog, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
John Bevan's Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Bevan Head Married Male 51 1800 Farm Labourer Llanfechan, Brecknockshire, Wales Anne Bevan Wife Married Female 52 1799 Wife Brecknockshire, Wales Margaret Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 Daughter Brecknockshire, Wales Mary Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 9 1842 Daughter Brecknockshire, Wales Jane Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 8 1843 Daughter Brecknockshire, Wales James Bevan Son - Male 5 1846 Son Brecknockshire, Wales Benjamin Bevan Son - Male 2 1849 Son Builth, Breconshire, Wales David Thomas Visitor - Male 2 1849 - Llangynog, Brecknockshire, Wales
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4 Jan 2019 18:58 |
?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BEVAN, BENJAMIN LEWIS Order GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 32
BEVAN, JANE LEWIS Order GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 272
If 1841 and 1851 same family - then Mary a little older than 1851 suggests? Unless the earlier child died and another named for her
BEVAN, MARY LEWIS Order GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 255
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safc
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4 Jan 2019 19:01 |
John Beavan Wales, Brecknockshire, Parish Registers Name John Beavan Event Type Marriage Event Date 11 Jun 1831 Event Place Llanafan Fechan, Brecknockshire, Wales Spouse's Name Anne Lewis
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4 Jan 2019 19:08 |
From the 1851 as posted by safc - places of birth are John - Llanfechan ******** Anne - Llanafanfawr Margaret , Mary and Anne - Llanfechan James - ?Llangasiten Benjamin - Builth
******* originally known as Llanafan-fechan about 4 miles West of Builth
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Doreen
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4 Jan 2019 19:37 |
Or it must be John Bevan 1804 and Mary? 1802 from Builth
Their children
Meredith Bevan 1828 Mary Bevan 1830 David Bevan 1832 m Mary 1828 Evan 1833 m Jane (Morgan) John and Jane (twins?) 1841
I believe their grandson Meredith Bevan 1848 and spouse Ann 1850 were innkeeper at Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr near Builth.
I'm looking for John Bevan 1804 and Mary 1802 their parents? Hope anyone can help?
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4 Jan 2019 19:49 |
A couple of possibles for Anne -
Breconshire Baptisms
First name(s) Anne Last name Lewis Birth year 1800 Birth date ? ? 1800 Baptism year 1800 Baptism date 13 Sep 1800 Place Llanafan Fawr County Breconshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) Rees Mother's first name(s) Mary Lewis Page 38
From image - Anne the Illegitimate daughter of Rees Lewis of ?Fronwen and Mary Lewis - de ?Tynowydd
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Breconshire Baptisms
First name(s) Anne Last name Lewis Birth year 1802 Birth date ? ? 1802 Baptism year 1802 Baptism date 05 Dec 1802 Place Llanafan Fawr County Breconshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) Benjamin Mother's first name(s) Jane Page 40
image - Anne the daughter of Benjamin Lewis by Jane his wife - can't read the last 3 words - ? de Cefu Uippa ??????
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4 Jan 2019 19:54 |
Marriage posted by safc - John BEAVAN Bachelor and Anne Lewis Spinster married by Banns with consent of Parents.
John has signed Bevan, Anne has made her mark.
witnesses - David Evans and Rees Price
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Doreen
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4 Jan 2019 20:05 |
Sorry I was told that it was Mary 1806 not Anne, sorry I was mistake.
John Bevan 1804 and Mary 1806 from Builth. Who were their parents in 17th century?
Their children
Meredith Bevan 1828 Mary Bevan 1830 David Bevan 1832 m Mary 1828 Evan 1833 m Jane (Morgan) John and Jane (twins?) 1841
I believe their grandson Meredith Bevan 1848 and spouse Ann 1850 were innkeeper at Unicorn Inn, Gwenddwr near Builth. Is this correct?
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4 Jan 2019 20:05 |
So IS THIS the family - not a lot of difference between John 1804 and Anne 1806 !! More information initially would have saved a lot of time and effort by helpers !
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Mary Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales w/o Shoemaker Meredith Bevan Male 13 1828 Breconshire, Wales Mary Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales David Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales Evan Bevan Male 8 1833 Breconshire, Wales Jane Bevan Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales Elizabeth Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales David Davies Male 22 1819 Breconshire, Wales
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Breconshire Baptisms
First name(s) Meredith Last name Bevan Birth year 1827 Birth date ? ? 1827 Baptism year 1827 Baptism date 25 Nov 1827 Place Gwenddwr County Breconshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) David Mother's first name(s) Mary Page 19
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Breconshire Marriages And Banns
First name(s) David Last name Bevan Birth year - Event year 1825 Banns year - Marriage year 1825 Marriage date 31 May 1825 Marriage place Gwenddwr Residence Gwenddwr Spouse's first name(s) Mary Spouse's last name Davies Spouse's birth year - Spouse's residence Gwenddwr County Breconshire Country Wales
There is a Davies in the 1841 household
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4 Jan 2019 20:23 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Erwood, Crickadarn, Builth, Radnorshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place David Bevan Head Married Male 47 1804 Shoemaker Breconshire, Wales Mary Bevan Wife Married Female 46 1805 - Breconshire, Wales Merdith Bevan Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 - Breconshire, Wales Mary Bevan Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Breconshire, Wales David Bevan Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Work Man Breconshire, Wales Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 10 1841 - Breconshire, Wales Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 7 1844 - Breconshire, Wales Elenor Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Breconshire, Wales Meredith Bevan Grand Son - Male 2 1849 - Breconshire, Wales
--------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: BEVAN, ANN DAVIES Order GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 277
BUT ?? BEVAN, ELEANOR EVANS Order GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 26 Page 299
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Doreen
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4 Jan 2019 20:25 |
Thanks Greyghost
This one is correct. No sign of John Bevan 1802 on this census? And also Any sign of John 1802 or Mary 1806's parents?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Mary Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales Meredith Bevan Male 13 1828 Breconshire, Wales Mary Bevan Female 11 1830 Breconshire, Wales David Bevan Male 9 1832 Breconshire, Wales Evan Bevan Male 8 1833 Breconshire, Wales Jane Bevan Female 0 1841 Breconshire, Wales Elizabeth Bevan Female 2 1839 Breconshire, Wales David Davies Male 22 1819 Breconshire, Wales
Can you confirm if Meredith Bevan 1848 and wife mary 1850 were the Unicorn Inn keepers in Gwenddwr, Builth?
Thanks for your helpings
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4 Jan 2019 20:49 |
1841 already posted, along with 1851 for same family.
If you can decide who it is you are looking for, then I'll try to help further - what relationship is John Bevan to whom!
Sorry can't look for everything all at once !!
Breconshire Baptisms
First name(s) Meredith Last name Bevan Birth year 1827 Birth date ? ? 1827 Baptism year 1827 Baptism date 25 Nov 1827 Place Gwenddwr County Breconshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) David Mother's first name(s) Mary Page 19
also showing -with parents David (Shoemaker) and Mary - at Gwenddwr Mary Beavan -26.4.1829 Evan Bevan - 28.10.1832 Elizabeth - 3.2.1839 - shows Father as first name Davis on transcript but same person Jane - 7.10.1841
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On same page as Elizabeth in OPR there is this baptism on 10.2.1839 Thomas son of Meredith (Innkeeper) and Elizabeth Bevan of Gwenddwr, so not the ones you're looking for but maybe a family member
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4 Jan 2019 20:52 |
The Meredith Bevan family who baptised Thomas 1839
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Gwenddur Village, Gwenddwr, South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Meredith Bevan Male 50 1791 Breconshire, Wales Innkeeper Elizabeth Bevan Female 35 1806 Breconshire, Wales Thomas Bevan Male 3 1838 Breconshire, Wales
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4 Jan 2019 21:00 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1867 (>99%) Bevan Meredith Builth 11b 137 Thomas Anne Builth 11b 137
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Unicorn Inn, South Gwenddwr, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Meredith Bevan Head - Male 24 1847 - Breconshire, Wales Ann Bevan Wife - Female 21 1850 - Radnorshire, Wales Elizabeth Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Breconshire, Wales Margaret Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Breconshire, Wales
Meredith recorded as Innkeeper born Gwenddwr
-------------------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BEVAN, ELIZABETH ANN THOMAS Order GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 11B Page 95
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Ann Bevan aged 68 Head of house an AG. Lab's widow b LLanavon Jane Bevan 25 Daughter b Llanvechan John Bevan 8 grandson b Altmawr? James Bevan 2 grandson b Gwenddwr
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4 Jan 2019 21:14 |
There is this baptism of a David Bevan - a bit older than the 1851 census suggests
Breconshire Baptisms
First name(s) David Last name Bevan Birth year 1800 Birth date ? ? 1800 Baptism year 1800 Baptism date 25 Dec 1800 Place Gwenddwr County Breconshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) Meredith Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Page 2
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4 Jan 2019 22:30 |
PM from Doreen -
I found this Bevan Family Tree on website https://www.geni.com/family-tree/canvas/6000000011514581533 so I thought I can ask this message centre to see if they can help.
Our was Margaret Jane Bevan, believe she married to a man's surname Davies. Her parents Meredith 1848 and Anne 1850.
I cant go further since John 1802 and Mary Bevan 1804
Thank you so much for your big helps
============================================== I think that tree may well be wrong - does anyone else think I might be on the right track? (An Ancestry tree has the same as me - looks to be well researched, but I didn't look until after I'd researched myself)
SO -
Working backwards - Margaret Jane Bevan with parents (posted earlier)
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Unicorn Inn, South Gwenddwr, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Meredith Bevan Head - Male 24 1847 - Breconshire, Wales Ann Bevan Wife - Female 21 1850 - Radnorshire, Wales Elizabeth Ann Bevan Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Breconshire, Wales Margaret Jane Bevan Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Breconshire, Wales
-------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: BEVAN, MARGARET JANE THOMAS Order GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in THE BUILTH UNION Volume 11B Page 95 Order
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First name(s) Meredith <<<< Last name Bevan Age Full Birth year - Event year 1867 Banns year - Marriage year 1867 Marriage date 02 Feb 1867 Marriage place Gwenddwr Father's first name(s) Meredith <<<<<< Father's last name Bevan Spouse's first name(s) Anne Spouse's last name Thomas Spouse's age Full Spouse's birth year - Spouse's father's last name Thomas Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
the Ancestry tree has a copy of the actual marriage certificate.
Meredith is shown as a Carpenter - matches 1881 census, not posted here, when he's shown as an Innkeeper and Carpenter. witnesses John Jones and Jane Thomas
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4 Jan 2019 22:37 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Village of Gwenddwr, Gwenddwr South, Builth, Breconshire, Wales
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Meredith Bevan Head Widower Male 68 1793 Retired Inn Keeper Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales Meredith Bevan Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Scholar Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Meredith Bewan Head Married Male 58 1793 Victualler Gwenddwr, Brecknockshire, Wales Elizabeth Bewan Wife Married Female 49 1802 Wife Alltmawr, Brecknockshire, Wales Thomas Bewan Son - Male 13 1838 Scholar Brecknockshire, Wales Meredith Bewan Son - Male 5 1846 - Brecknockshire, Wales
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