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Tawny
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28 Dec 2018 11:36 |
I am struggling to find to find Edward J Evans on the 1871 census and wondered if anyone else could?
I am still trying to pin down his birth but according to the 1881 and 1891 census his birth would be around 1852/53 and he gives his place of birth on one census as London/Middlesex.
Thanks to the fact that he and his wife Ellen/Helen Maskell 1851/52 had all their children in Scotland I can give their exact marriage date as August 3rd 1873, Kensington, London. All children’s birth certificates from then have their parents marriage date included.
On the 1881 census Edward has brother Arthur L. Evans who is 16 living with him. Edward is a Hairdresser/Barber on every census I’ve found him on.
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MargaretM
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28 Dec 2018 11:45 |
The marriage record gives their address as 3 Barasdon? St., his father is Arthur Linder Evans, an inspector in the post office. Her father John Maskell a carman.
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28 Dec 2018 11:55 |
Name: Edward Evans Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 3 Aug 1873 Marriage Place: St Clement, Notting Hill, Kensington and Chelsea, England Father: Arthur Linder Evans Spouse: Ellen Maskell Register Type: Parish Register
??? O L Evans in the 1871 England Census
Name: O L Evans [Arthur Linder Evans] Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Evans Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Paddington Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Kensington Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 133 Piece: 6 Folio: 13 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age O L Evans 45 - Server? @ Govt Post Office Ann Evans 44 Edwin Evans 18 Albert F Evans 13 Arthur E Evans 7 Reginald E Evans 4 Walter S Evans 1 Emma Evans 12 Jessie Evans 19 Alexandra Evans 8 Elizabeth M Evans 57 Georgina Dack 21
Wife born Haddenham Berks, all children Paddington....but no Edward J
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28 Dec 2018 11:58 |
Probate
Name: Arthur Linder Evans Death Date: 21 Jan 1893 Death Place: Brighton, Sussex, England Probate Date: 6 Feb 1893 Registry: London, England
of 4 Kensington High St, Brighton to Ann Evans, widow. £151 4s
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Tawny
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28 Dec 2018 12:01 |
Thank you both for looking. I’ll need to see if more digging on these lines can find him.
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28 Dec 2018 12:02 |
His baptism
Name: Arthur Linder Evans Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1826 Baptism Place: Lambeth St John the Evangelist, Lambeth, England Father: Edward Evans - shoe maker Mother: Harriet Evans of Chapel St, Edgeware Rd, Marylebone,
Can find them on 1841 & 1851 but not 1861. Edward J Evans still missing!
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Maddie
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28 Dec 2018 12:04 |
1881 ???????? in the 1881 Scotland Census 1881 Scotland Census No Image
Name: Edward Evans Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Helen Evans Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 503 Registration district: Row Civil Parish: Row Town: Helensburgh County: Dumbartonshire Address: 16 W Princes St Occupation: Barber (Employing 2 Boys) ED: 9 Household schedule number: 62 LINE: 7 Roll: cssct1881_148 Household Members: Name Age Edward Evans 28 Helen Evans 29 Arthur L Evans 2 Elizh M Evans 8 M Arthur L Evans 16
1891 Name: Edward Evans Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Ellen Evans Gender: Male Where born: London, England Registration Number: 503 Registration district: Row Civil Parish: Row Town: Helensburgh County: Dumbartonshire Address: 151 E Cyde St Occupation: Hairdresser ED: 2 Household schedule number: 59 LINE: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_163 Household Members: Name Age Edward Evans 38 Ellen Evans 39 Arhur Evans 12 Elizabeth Evans 10 Edward Evans 8 Alfred Evans 6 Victor Evans 3 Albert Evans 1 Alex Hutchieson 20 Annie McGregor 35 Margaret Campbell 70
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28 Dec 2018 12:10 |
Edward Evans England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
Name: Edward Evans Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1852 Registration District: Chelsea County: London Event Place: Chelsea, London, England Volume: 1A Page: 146 Affiliate Line Number: 20
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malyon
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28 Dec 2018 12:20 |
Births Sep 1852 Evans Edward Kensington 1a 23
Births Sep 1853 (>99%) EVANS Edward Chelsea 1a 131
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Tawny
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28 Dec 2018 12:20 |
Thank you both. That is the family in the 1881 and 1891 census. I’ll order that birth certificate to confirm but it looks promising.
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Maddie
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28 Dec 2018 12:37 |
to confirm EVANS, EDWARD BETTS Order GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in KENSINGTON, PADDINGTON, AND FULHAM Volume 01A Page 23 Order
EVANS, WALTER SIDNEY BETTS Order GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 8 Order
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28 Dec 2018 12:45 |
re the 1871 census found by +++DetEcTive+++ Could Edwin be the elusive Edward? Occupation is hard to make out but looks like boatmaker? Surely not?
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Norfolk Road, Paddington, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
A L Evans Head - Male 45 1826 - Middlesex, England - Evans Wife - Female 44 1827 - Buckinghamshire, England Edwin Evans Son - Male 18 1853 - Middlesex, England Albert F Evans Son - Male 13 1858 - Middlesex, England Arthur E Evans Son - Male 7 1864 - Middlesex, England Reginald E Evans Son - Male 4 1867 - Middlesex, England Walter S Evans Son - Male 1 1870 - Middlesex, England Emma Evans Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Middlesex, England Jessie Evans Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Middlesex, England Alexandra Evans Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Middlesex, England
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Maddie
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28 Dec 2018 12:51 |
1841 for father Name: Andrew L Evans [Arthur L Evans] Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: St Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch Neighbors: Piece: 677 Book: 1 Folio: 9 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Edwd Kendall Evens 35 Harriett Evens 40 Andrew L Evans 15 Edwd Evans 10 Harriett Amman 5 William Crewe 15 Gee Marback 30
1851 Name: Arthur Evans Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Son Father's name: Edward Evans Mother's name: Harriet Evans Gender: Male Where born: Lambth, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 1490 Folio: 18 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Edward Evans 47 Harriet Evans 53 Arthur Evans 24 Edward Evans 21 Harriet Evans 16 Rebecca Evans 9 John Dwyer 17
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Tawny
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28 Dec 2018 12:54 |
It is possible though I admit odd. Edward’s son Victor married a Mary Agnes McDonald O’Brien. Mary’s father Joseph was a hammerman and her brother also Joseph was a riveter and both worked at the shipyard.
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Maddie
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28 Dec 2018 13:12 |
there is no birth recorded on gro for an edwin evans / betts
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28 Dec 2018 13:19 |
Re the 1871. Can someone check the image again please? (We’re about to go out) From from memory, was one of the household members a hairdresser?
It’s possible that Edward was Edwin, but where did the J from the title/OP come from?
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28 Dec 2018 13:24 |
Edwin Evans England and Wales Census, 1871 Name Edwin Evans Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Paddington, London, Middlesex, England Enumeration District 12 Gender Male Age 18 Marital Status Unmarried Occupation Boot Maker Relationship to Head of Household Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1853 Birthplace Paddington, Middlesex Entry Number 14 Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0006/0028 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace A L Evans Head M 45 Middlesex Evans Wife F 44 Haddenham, Buckinghamshire Edwin Evans Son M 18 Paddington, Middlesex Albert F Evans Son M 13 Paddington, Middlesex Arthur E Evans Son M 7 Paddington, Middlesex Reginald E Evans Son M 4 Paddington, Middlesex Walter S Evans Son M 1 Paddington, Middlesex Emma Evans Daughter F 12 Paddington, Middlesex Jessie Evans Daughter F 10 Paddington, Middlesex Alexandra Evans Daughter F 8 Paddington, Middlesex Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBDB-JND : 11 December 2017), Edwin Evans in entry for A L Evans, 1871.
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Tawny
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28 Dec 2018 13:36 |
It makes it more likely then that Edwin could be Edward. Only the certificate will tell.
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