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6 Dec 2018 15:11 |
Elizabeth with first husband in 1901:
Elizabeth Smith in the 1901 England Census Name: Elizabeth Smith Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: William Smith Birth Place: Spondon, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Derby Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Derby Sub-registration district: Derby ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: Piece: 3215 Folio: 131 Page Number: 8 Household schedule number: 62 Household Members: Name Age William Smith 36 - cattle drover Elizabeth Smith 26 George W Smith 5 Edith A Smith 4/12
and her marriage:
Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%) Smith William Derby 7b 1186 UFTON Elizabeth Derby 7b 1186
Son's birth:
SMITH, GEORGE WILLIAM UFTON mms UFTON GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 550
You still need Gladys's birth or marriage cert to confirm parents names .
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Mary
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6 Dec 2018 19:29 |
Elizabeth Ufton baptised Spondon 28/5/1876 by James Ufton and Elizabeth
Elizabeth Ufton mum maiden name Malbourn born 1876 Shardlow. V07b P479
James Oufton age 20 married 1870 to Elizabeth Malbon.
It says father of James is Elijah Stevens.
Witness's were Samuel Stevens and Emma Malbon.
James 1850 Spondon and Elizabeth (Malbourn) born about 1850 Cubley Derbyshire also had daughter Edith a 1892 and son James 1880 who had a daughter Gladys in 1900,so there is a few connections of names in this family.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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6 Dec 2018 20:28 |
Seems like Gladys birth record may have mmn mistyped
Her birth record will help when it's been received
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Ellen
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11 Dec 2018 00:11 |
Received the birth certificate today Gladys Victoria Smith had parents William Smith & Elizabeth Upton
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Dec 2018 09:12 |
So it would seem the surname has been misheard / spelt on different records
At least you know the dads name and mums Christian name and the marriage for them
Argyl too posted the 1911 census where mum is living with Patrick burns as his wife
Their daughters birth Though is odd with mmn as houghton
BUT !! They had more children
Births Mar 1913 Burns Gertrude E Ufton Derby 7b 1128
Births Mar 1918 Burns Doris I Ufton Derby 7b 907
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Dec 2018 09:33 |
Looks like Gertrude's marriage
Marriages Jun 1933 Burns Gertrude E Elliott Derby 7b 1405 Elliott Leslie T Burns Derby 7b 1405
Derbyshire marriages Leslie Trevelyan Last name Elliott Name note - Age 30 Marriage year 1933 Marriage date 15 Apr 1933 Marriage place Derby Father's first name(s) Tan Father's last name Elliott Spouse's first name(s) Gertrude Elizabeth Spouse's last name Burns Spouse's birth year 1913 Spouse's birth date 1913 Spouse's father's first name(s) Patrick Spouse's father's last name Burns Residence Derby, Derbyshire, England County Derbyshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain
Sadly baby Doris died
Deaths Mar 1918 Burns Doris I 0 Derby 7b 677
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Dec 2018 09:35 |
Deaths Jun 1928 Burns Patrick 52 Derby 7b 636
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Dec 2018 09:46 |
Not seeing Gertrude on the 1939 register but this looks like her husbands birth
Births Dec 1902 Elliott Leslie Trevelyan Derby 7b 575
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11 Dec 2018 11:07 |
?? death of Gertrude's husband
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Leslie Elliott
Death Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1904
Registration Date: Sep 1936
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 492
Marriages Mar 1938
Elliott Gertrude E Logan Derby 7b 965 Logan Wallace Elliott Derby 7b 965
1939 Register
Logan Household (4 People) 40 Thorn Street , Derby C.B., Derbyshire, England
Wallace Logan 25 May 1915 Male Skilled Wireman Telecommunications Installer Married 324 1 Gertrude E Logan 19 Jan 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 324 2
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
(a daughter born 1938 - LOGAN mother's maiden name is BURNS)
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007? Name: Gertrude E Logan
Death Age: 56
Birth Date: abt 1913
Registration Date: Mar 1969
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 383
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11 Dec 2018 11:44 |
I think that Leslie may have died and Gertrude remarried ??
Deaths Sep 1936 (>99%) Elliott Leslie 32 Derby 7b 492
Marriages Mar 1938 (>99%) COOPER Ada P Fletcher Derby 7b 965 Scan available - click to view ***Elliott Gertrude E Logan Derby 7b 965 Scan available - click to view Fletcher Stanley J Cooper Derby 7b 965 Scan available - click to view ***Logan Wallace Elliott Derby 7b 965 Scan available - click to view
1939: Logan Household (4 People) 40 Thorn Street , Derby C.B., Derbyshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation Wallace Logan 25 May 1915 Skilled Wireman Telecommunications Installer Gertrude E Logan 19 Jan 1913 Unpaid Domestic Duties Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
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EDIT - Sorry Choccy!!! <3 - That will teach me not to post before I have refreshed the page! Anyway, looks like we are agreed here.............
Dea x
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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11 Dec 2018 15:13 |
Looks good both of you !!
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12 Dec 2018 23:59 |
Thanks everyone for helping with William & Elizabeth's family, I definately had the wrong parents for Gladys Victoria Smith. I have been trying to find parents for William Smith born abt 1865 died 1903. I have looked on the 1881 census for a William Smith Cattle Drover from 1863-1867 birth with no luck perhaps he was not a Cattle Drover in 1881? a difficult name to research so many Many thanks again Ellen
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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13 Dec 2018 02:26 |
Well his marriage cert to Elizabeth will give his age and his fathers name if known
You know from the 1901 census he was 36 so born c1865
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