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28 Nov 2018 15:09 |
William Henry Harman,age 38 and a widower, married Mary Mann, spinster age 38 also, 15 May 1921 in Kensington.
William's occupation was Mason and his father was George, Labourer. He died sometime between 1927 and 1939.
Mary's father was Michael Joseph Mann, plasterer. Her dob was 13/9/1882
William and Mary had 4 children all born in Hammersmith between 1922 and 1927
My problem? I cannot actually identify William and Mary. Nor their parents and it is driving me mad.
Any help would be appreciate
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28 Nov 2018 15:31 |
maybe he changed naems around
Name: Henry William Harman Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1884 Baptism Place: Notting Hill St Clement, Kensington and Chelsea, England Father: George Harman -- labourer Mother: Louisa Harman
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28 Nov 2018 15:37 |
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Transcription: 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Snarsgate Street, Hammersmith, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England
George Harman Head Married Male 42 1849 General Labourer Middlesex, England Louisa Harman Wife Married Female 40 1851 Laundry Hand London, Middlesex, England George James Harman Son Single Male 17 1874 General Labourer Middlesex, England Mary Harman Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar London, Middlesex, England Harry Wm Harman Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar London, Middlesex, England Annie Harman Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - London, Middlesex, England
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28 Nov 2018 15:43 |
Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 16, Bransford Street, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
George Harman Head Married Male 52 1849 - Hayes, Middlesex, England Louisa Harman Wife Married Female 50 1851 Charwoman Marylebone, Middlesex, England George Harman Son Single Male 26 1875 Genl Laborer Northolt, Middlesex, England Mary Harman Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Henry Harman Son Single Male 17 1884 - Hammersmith, Middlesex, England Annie Harman Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England Jane Sawyer Aunt Widow Female 79 1822 - Marylebone, Middlesex, England
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28 Nov 2018 15:48 |
LOUISA Last name HARMAN Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1851 Age 100 Death quarter 1 Death year 1951 District Ealing County London Volume 5E Page 282 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
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Gerry
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28 Nov 2018 15:53 |
Now, why didn't I think of that?!!
It looks very promising :-D
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28 Nov 2018 15:54 |
Name: George Harmon -- labourer Gender: Male Marriage Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1850 Marriage Date: 11 May 1873 Marriage Place: Northolt, Ealing, England Father: James Harmon Spouse: Louisa Rooke Register Type: Parish Register
Name: George Harman Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1849 Baptism Place: Northolt, Ealing, England Father: James Harman Mother: Mary Anne Harman
HARMAN, ANNIE ROOKE Order GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 186
HARMAN, HENRY WILLIAM ROOKE Order GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 205
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28 Nov 2018 16:13 |
??? Name: Michael Joseph Mann Age: 67 Record Type: Death Birth Date: abt 1862 Death Date: 6 Nov 1929 Death Poor Law Union: Saint Marylebone Death Place: St Marylebone, Westminster, England
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Gerry
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28 Nov 2018 16:25 |
1862 is about the right birth for Mary's father Maddie.
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malyon
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28 Nov 2018 17:53 |
is this mary in 1901
Name: Mary Mann Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Kensington, London, Middlesex, England County: London, Middlesex Civil Parish: Kensington Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Sub-District: Kensington Town Registration District: Kensington Residence Note: Lonsdale Road Gender: Female Age: 19 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1882 Birthplace: Kilburn, London Schedule Type: 328 Page Number: 47 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ann Richardson Head Female 70 Luebury Eng Co Not Stated James Richardson Son Male 15 London Ellen Mann Daughter Female 42 Windsor, Berkshire Mary Mann Daughter Female 19 Kilburn, London Kate Mann Daughter Female 19 Kilburn William Mann Son Male 11 Kilburn
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28 Nov 2018 18:01 |
this looks like parents of mary mann no middle name for micheal
Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)click to view Mann Michael Marylebone 1a 1222 RICHARDSON Ellen Marylebone 1a 1222
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alviegal
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28 Nov 2018 21:15 |
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Townshend Cottages, Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England
John Mann Head - Male 38 1833 - labourer Ireland Catherine Mann Wife - Female 38 1833 - laundress Ireland John Mann Son - Male 11 1860 - labourer, Marylebone Middlesex, England >>Michael Mann Son - Male 9 1862 - Marylebone Middlesex, England Elly Mann Son - Male 5 1866 - Middlesex, England
1911 Census For England & Wales
35 Lonsdale Road, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
George Wornes Husband Married Male 31 1880 Cab Washer Elgin Mews N Hill Kate Wornes Wife Married Female 28 1883 House Wife St Johns Wood LN George Albert Wornes Son - Male 5 1906 - Lonsdale Rd N Hill Thomas William Wornes Son - Male 3 1908 - Lonsdale Rd N Hill John Edward Wornes Son - Male 2 1909 - Lonsdale Rd N Hill >>Ellen Mann Mother Widow Female 51 1860 Laundry Windsor William Mann Brother Single Male 27 1884 Trunk Maker St Johns Wood LN >>Mary Mann Sister Single Female 28 1883 Laundry St Johns Wood LN
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28 Nov 2018 22:10 |
MANN, ELLEN RICHARDSON GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 169
MANN, CATHERINE RICHARDSON GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 155
MANN, MARY RICHARDSON GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 155
MANN, WILLIAM ROBERT RICHARDSON GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 673
??MANN, JOHN RICHARDSON Order GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 647
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28 Nov 2018 22:53 |
so mary and kate were twins
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Gerry
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28 Nov 2018 23:53 |
Thank you all for your input
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29 Nov 2018 11:04 |
Michael Last name Mann Birth year 1862 Baptism year 1862 Parish St John's Wood Diocese Westminster County Middlesex Country England Mother's first name(s) Catherina Mother's last name Waters Father's first name(s) Joannis Father's last name Mann Birth date 26 Apr 1862 Baptism date 25 May 1862 Church Our Lady Deanery Marylebone Ecclesiastical province Westminster Archive Westminster Archdiocesan Archives Register type Baptisms Records year range 1856-1867
MICHAEL Last name MANN Birth year 1862 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Walters District Marylebone County London Country England Volume 1A Page 507
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29 Nov 2018 12:26 |
If Michael Joseph Mann died in 1929, why would Ellen be a widow on the 1911 census? Of course, they may just have gone their own way and Ellen considered herself as widowed to save face.
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29 Nov 2018 15:41 |
i wonder if this is micheals father
John Last name Mann Birth year - Baptism year 1833 Baptism date 10 Feb 1833 Residence Ardglass Parish Emly Diocese Cashel and Emly County Limerick, Tipperary Country Ireland Father's first name(s) Michael ------ Father's last name Mann Mother's first name(s) Honora Mother's last name Hogan Repository National Library of Ireland National Library of Ireland link
JOHN Last name MANN Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1833 Age 60 Death quarter 3 Death year 1893 District Marylebone County London Volume 1A Page 424 Country
Honora Last name Hogan Address - Marriage year 1825 Marriage date 24 Apr 1825 Parish Emly Diocese Cashel and Emly Spouse's first name(s) Michl Spouse's last name Mann Spouse's address - County Limerick, Tipperary Country Ireland Repository National Library of Ireland
Mann Honora 1796 1876 1876 Irish Deaths 1864 - 1958 Tipperary, Limerick & Tipperary, Ireland
Honora Last name Hogan Birth year - Baptism year 1796 Baptism date 17 May 1796 Parish Killenaule Alternative parish names Killenaule and Moyglass, Moyglass Diocese Cashel and Emly County Tipperary Country Ireland Father's first name(s) Patritio Father's last name Hogan Mother's first name(s) Cath Mother's last name Heffernan Repository National Library of Ireland
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29 Nov 2018 15:51 |
micheals brother England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms First name(s) Patricius Last name Mann Birth year 1861 Baptism year 1861 Parish St John's Wood Diocese Westminster County Middlesex Country England Mother's first name(s) Catherine Mother's last name Watars Father's first name(s) Joannis Father's last name Mann Birth date 20 Feb 1861 Baptism date 17 Mar 1861 Church Our Lady Deanery Marylebone Ecclesiastical province Westminster Archive Westminster Archdiocesan Archives Register type Baptisms Records year range 1856-1867
sadly PATRICK Last name MANN Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1861 District Marylebone County London Volume 1A Page 362 Country England
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alviegal
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30 Nov 2018 12:30 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
26, Townshend Cottages, Mbone, Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England
John Mann Head Married Male 28 1833 Labourer Ireland Catherine Mann Wife Married Female 30 1831 Charwoman Limerick, Limerick, Ireland William Mann Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 Scholar Middlesex, England John Mann Son - Male 2 1859 - Middlesex, England Patrick Mann Son - Male 0 1861 - Middlesex, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
17, Townshend Cottages, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England
John Mann Head Married Male 48 1833 Genl Lab Ireland Catherine Mann Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Ireland Billy Mann Son Single Male 15 1866 Errand Boy Marylebone, Middlesex, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Henry Place, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England
John Mann Head Married Male 58 1833 Domestic Tipperary, Tipperary, Ireland Catherine Mann Wife Married Female 59 1832 Domestic Limerick, Limerick, Ireland
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