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Looking for children of Thomas Holgate born 1737 and Married Mary Forster on 16th December 1769 in York Yorkshire England
Mary Forster born July 1747 East Witton Yorkshire
Any help much appreciated Thank you Pam

How have you got back to them if you haven't found at least one child's birth -
if so, where and when was that

Thomas Holgate
mentioned in the record of Thomas Holgate and Mary Forster
Name Thomas Holgate
Spouse's Name Mary Forster
Event Date 18 Dec 1769
Event Place Overton By Ouse,York,England


Overton is a small village and civil parish in the Hambleton district of North Yorkshire, England, about 4 miles north-west of York. The population of civil parish taken at the 2011 Census was less than 100. Details are included in the civil parish of Shipton, North Yorkshire. Wikipedia

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Thomas
Last name Holgate
Age 32
Birth year 1737
Residence parish Overton
Residence county Yorkshire
Licence year 1769
Licence date 16 Dec 1769
Intended marriage place Overton PC
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Forster
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's parish Overton
Spouse's county Yorkshire

no births showing in that area

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This marriage may account for the births to a Thomas and Mary Holgate in Long Preston, so can probably rule those out?

Thomas Holgate
mentioned in the record of Thomas Holgate and Mary Geldard
Name Thomas Holgate
Spouse's Name Mary Geldard
Event Date 30 Dec 1776
Event Place Long Preston,York,England


and the Gisburn births to a Thomas Holgate appear to start in 1760

???

Thomas Holdgate
England Births and Christenings
Name Thomas Holdgate
Gender Male
Christening Date 29 May 1774
Christening Date (Original) 29 MAY 1774
Christening Place OVERTON BY OUSE,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Thomas Holdgate

I have been looking for a Holgate that married a Forster, in that time frame The Holgate family are my ancestors
Thank you Pam

Mary Forster
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 22 July 1747 EAST WITTON, YORK, ENGLAND
father: Thomas Forster

John Forster
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening: 21 July 1754 EAST WITTON, YORK, ENGLAND
father: Thomas Forster

there is this marriage for a mary forster

Mary Forster
mentioned in the record of Matthias Ardil and Mary Forster
Name Matthias Ardil
Spouse's Name Mary Forster
Event Date 14 Jan 1771
Event Place East Witton,York,England

You say that the Holgate family are your ancestors. So what is the name of the child from whom you descend?

My Great Grandfather was Henry Holgate born 1859 and Annie Selina Knott
Thank you

But how did you get back to Thomas born 120 years earlier?

I looked for a marriage for a Holgate and Forster as I need to find a connection
Pam

You may know what you're talking about but we're trying to help and don't.

How are you connecting Holgate and Forster.

You say Grandfather Henry Holgate b 1859 and then mention Annie Selina Knott - his wife, his mother??

Wife ?? -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
HOLGATE Henry Malling 2a 797
KNOTT Annie Selina Malling 2a 797


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
KNOTT, ANN SELINA BALDWIN Order
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in NORTH AYLESFORD Volume 02A Page 296

?? Henry born 1856

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
29, Frederick Street, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Holgate Head Married Male 24 1857 Boot Maker Debden, Essex, England
Annie L Holgate Wife Married Female 23 1858 - Kent, England
Henry Holgate Son Single Male 0 1881 - Kennington, Surrey, England

Annie S as per original

1861 census shows Henry in Great Barfied, Dunmow, Essex born Debden, Essex with parents John a Bootmaker and Emma both b Essex, so link before them


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HOLGATE, HENRY KNOTT Order
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in KINGSTON ON THAMES Volume 02A Page 318

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HOLGATE, HENRY IVES Order
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in SAFFRON WALDEN Volume 04A Page 338

Trees on Ancestry show your Henry's parents as John Holgate (1833-1907) & Emma Ives and John's parents as John Holgate (1810-1872) & Mary J. Wright but that's as far back as hey go.
I still don't understand how you got back to Thomas born 1737.

wouldn't it be a laugh of your Holgate's were the same as the Archbishop (of York) Holgate who founded Archbishop Holgate's Grammar School in York..affectionately known as "Archie's"by its students including me....many many moons ago.....
If ever you get back far enough you might well find Archbishop ROBERT HOLGATE and his wife BARBARA WENTWORTH early 1500's were ancestors..its not that common a name
Derek

Sorry, Pam, but you can’t say that Thomas Holgate is your ancestor if you don’t have info about his children

It may well be that he is - but you need to do a lot of research to prove it.

1861 - showing Henry's father to be a Bootmaker - not Bookmaker


EDITED 03/12 at 0930
I see that greyghost has now amended his post, so we're both on the same track.....lol!



Village, Great Bardfield, Dunmow, Essex, England
John Holgate Head Married Male 29 1832 Bootmaker Employing 1 Man Saffron Walden, Essex, England
Emma Holgate Wife Married Female 27 1834 Bootbinder Saffron Walden, Essex, England
Henry Holgate Son - Male 5 1856 - Debden, Essex, England

Further to Margaret's post

Marriages Dec 1851 (>99%)
HOLGATE John Saffron Walden 12 441
Ives Emma Saffron Walden 12 441



Name: John Holgate
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Marriage Date: 15 Jul 1829
Marriage Place: Saffron-Walden, Essex, England
Spouse: Mary Wright
FHL Film Number: 1526934