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Relates to a thread now posted about the Wannell's

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1374720

think harold is fred and Eva's?

Thats all very good -thanks-think a couple of wrong children though. I Think Nancy belongs o the other parents - theres a Mary Pearce thats not on FreeBMD.
def need certs or baptisms to confirm things. All parents buried in unconsecrated ground interestingly.

Ancestry suggests that Archibald is Harold George, who was born 1911.

Probates - https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk

FREDERICK THOMAS PEARCE of 19 Monmouth Street, Topsham Devonshire died 31 October 1945. Probate Llandudno 1 March to Eva Blanche Pearce widow and Shirley John Pearce carpenter. Effects £460

EVA BLANCHE PEARCE of 19 Monmouth Street Topsham Devonshire widow died 1 May 1948 probate Exeter 30 September to Shirley john Pearce and Harold George Pearce carpenters
So does that blow my logic of who is whose out of the window or was the probate to son and nephew?

MARY LEWIS PEARCE of 69 Fore Street, Topsham Devonshire widow died 9 August 1960 at 29 Victoria Street Exeter Probate Exeter 29 August to Albert Henry Pearce bricklayer and George Pearce general labourer Effects £429 10s 6d

a copy of the wills might help to sort out who is who.

Looking at census and births and 1939 (unless child staying with aunt/uncle)

Albert and Mary had
Dora Ellen 1906
Albert Henry 1909
Harold George 1911 (? has to be if Archie also 1911 unless twins and Archie not showing on register)
Nancy Beatrice Maud 1916

and Frederick and Eva had
Edith Annie1905
Shirley John 1907
Archibald 1911
Rita May 1915
Eva Blanche 1916

Leaving (with my best guesses, but they are guesses - you NEED certificate)
Henry George 1912 - Fred and Eva if Albert and Mary has a Harold George Q2 1911
Mary 1914 - Albert and Mary - after Mother, she's Q2 1914 and Rita Q1 1915 so too close to be siblings
George 1921 - Albert and Mary if Mary's sister
Joyce 1922 - ?? Fred and Eva if George 1921

So looks like its two brothers then - so all the children listed are cousins or brothers and sisters depending!

Greygost-thats fab!!

as archibald was only 2 days old in 1911 census he may have been registered in another name

Pearce Household (4 People)
19 Mennie Street , St Thomas R.D., Devon, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Eva B Pearce 03 Jan 1880 Female Domestic Duties At Home Married 194 2
Frederick T Pearce 12 Jan 1878 Male Carpenter Married 194 1
Rita M Perry (Pearce) 07 Feb 1916 Female Drapery Asst Single 194 3
Eva B Pearce 18 Jun 1915 Female Drapery Asst Single 194 4

EDIT - Rita born 1915 and Eva 1916 according to GRO entries

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)

Pearce Frederick Thomas St. Thomas 5b 139
Wannell Eva Blanche St. Thomas 5b 13

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Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales
Monmouth St Topsham, Topsham, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Pearce Head Married Male 33 1878 Carpenter Devon Topsham
Eva Pearce Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Devon Topsham
Edith Pearce Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Devon Topsham
Shirley Pearce Son - Male 4 1907 - Devon Topsham
Archibald Pearce Son - Male 0 1911 - Devon Topsham

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
PEARCE, SHIRLEY JOHN DANNELL <<<<<<<<< ?? mmn Wannell
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 34

not finding Archibald

1881 - posting so its all together!

Albert G. Pearce
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Samuel Pearce
Mother: Annie Pearce
Gender: Male
Where born: Topsham, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Topsham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: Pound Lane
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2142
Folio: 96
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Pearce 33
Annie Pearce 34
Annie Pearce 9
Mattilda Pearce 7
Samuel Pearce 5
Frederick Pearce 3
Albert G. Pearce 1
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https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
PEARCE, EDITH ANNIE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 35

PEARCE, DORA ELLEN WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 33

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: SEE later post
PEARCE, SHIRLEY JOHN DANNELL <<<<<<<<< ?? mmn Wannell
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 34

PEARCE, ALBERT HENRY WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 33

PEARCE, HAROLD GEORGE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 37

PEARCE, HENRY GEORGE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 37

PEARCE, MARY WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1914 J Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 71

PEARCE, RITA MAY WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 5B Page 69

PEARCE, EVA BLANCHE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 54 Order

PEARCE, NANCY BEATRICE MAUD WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 57 Order

From freebmd
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Pearce George Wannell St.Thomas 5b 56

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Pearce Joyce Wannell St.Thomas 5b 58

Cant believe how helpful everyone is being xx

The lady I am helping (although youve all done most of it) is very grateful - and can hopefully find out more

Birth not showing on freebmd

England & Wales Births 1837-2006

First name(s) MARY
Last name PEARCE
Birth year 1914
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wannell
District St. Thomas
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 71
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Oooh Maddie thank you thats interesting too - just have to find a record linking George to the right set of parents now- I'm going to passs on all this info and suggest they buy his birth cert and work from there -then can fill in the gaos - thanks so much EVERYBODY for your help x

Wright Household (5 People)
19 Baker Street , Exeter C.B., Devon, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Mary Scanes (Pearce) 03 Apr 1914 Female Waitress Single 197 5
Sidney C Wright 01 Jan 1913 Male General Labourer Widowed 197 1
Edith Wright 21 Jul 1916 Female Waitress Married 197 2
Emily E Redgewell 26 May 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 197 3
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1911
Belmont Place White St Topsham, Topsham, Devon, England
George Pearce Head Married Male 31 1880 Bricklayer Topsham Devon
Mary Pearce Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Topsham Devon
Dora Pearce Daughter Married Female 4 1907 - Topsham Devon
Albert Pearce Son - Male 2 1909 - Topsham Devon

1939
37 White Street , St Thomas R.D., Devon, England
rst name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Albert G Pearce 29 Mar 1880 Male Medical Supplier Bricklayer Married 337 1
Mary L Pearce 26 Aug 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties (Wannell) Married 337 2
Albert H Pearce 28 Dec 1908 Male Bricklayer Single 337 3
Rosa E Kimber (Pearce) 17 Mar 1877 Female - Widowed 337 4

you may have to buy the birth cert to establish fathers name

for what its worth a tree on ancestry has parents as George pearce and mary wannell

siblings of george as mary, albert henry, and a pearce
all unsourced

ALBERT HENRY
Last name PEARCE
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wannell
District St. Thomas
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 33

Mary, no dob married Cyril G Scanes

maddie

No- she was Mary Pearce?
Married a Cyril Scanes 1940


and I've just established that both Wannell/Pearce Couples stayed in the area and are both buried in our local cemetery. I will try local knowledge!