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Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 12:00

I'm trying to help a person who posted on a local page looking for help - and got a little way but need some asssiatnce if anyone doesnt mind as my library is only open on the days I'm working this week :-(

Trying to find the death (and subsequently the birth) of a George Pearce who died in 1987. (Estimated born around 1920). Was born in Exeter area of Devon, and died I believe in Northamptonshire.

I know he was in world war II.

He had a sister Mary.

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 12:05

Possible -

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name PEARCE
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 6
Birth year 1921
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1987
District Kettering
Register number 287
County Northamptonshire
Volume 7
Page 2457
Country England

no results showing on 1939 register with that DOB +/- 2 years and
no apparent probate record through to 1990

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Nov 2018 12:07

there is this one

GEORGE
Last name PEARCE
Gender Male
Birth day 9
Birth month 6
Birth year 1921
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1987
District Kettering
Register number 287
County Northamptonshire
Volume 7
Page 2457
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

GEORGE
Last name PEARCE
Birth year 1921
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wannell
District St. Thomas - Exeter
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 56
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 12:08

I've just heard from the person that he died on 31st Jan 1987 and his birthday was probably in June -so that looks good!
is it possible to click on it so it gives his birthdate? (not sure which site its on)

Thank you!

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 12:11

The record shows his birthdate as 9 June 1921 - remember that the information given is only as good as the knowledge of the person giving it.

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 12:15

This is the only Devon birth to fit the time frame - 6 weeks were allowed in which to register a Birth so may well have fallen into the September Quarter with a June birthdate

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)

Pearce George Wannell St.Thomas 5b 56

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 12:18

You can check other births for yourself on freebmd, but this is a possibility for Mary

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)

Pearce Nancy B M Wannell St.Thomas 5b 57

There are other births - only in the St Thomas area - 1904 -1930 for Pearce/Wannell combinations - at least one of them can't be for George's parents

Two possible marriages same area both 1904

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 12:27

Hi all
yes its looking complicated! I just found the two in 1904 too!

Whats puzzling is he is supposed to have had a sister Mary -which I found the correct marriage for in 1940 - but I cant find a birth for her that matches any of the Mothers maiden names/marriages for Georges parents!

Im wondering whether Georges Mum dies-and Mr Pearce remarried. - I will keep looking but at least it looks like we have his death and birth. I may try our church later for baptisms!
Thanks xxxxx

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 12:36

Have posted a possible for sister Mary - if she was known by other than her first given name.

not seeing a marriage in England/Wales 1940 for a Mary Wannell -
EDIT - of course not, she would have been a Pearce as per below!!

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 12:39

No- she was Mary Pearce?
Married a Cyril Scanes 1940


and I've just established that both Wannell/Pearce Couples stayed in the area and are both buried in our local cemetery. I will try local knowledge!

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Nov 2018 12:54

you may have to buy the birth cert to establish fathers name

for what its worth a tree on ancestry has parents as George pearce and mary wannell

siblings of george as mary, albert henry, and a pearce
all unsourced

ALBERT HENRY
Last name PEARCE
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wannell
District St. Thomas
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 33

Mary, no dob married Cyril G Scanes

maddie

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Nov 2018 13:23

1911
Belmont Place White St Topsham, Topsham, Devon, England
George Pearce Head Married Male 31 1880 Bricklayer Topsham Devon
Mary Pearce Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Topsham Devon
Dora Pearce Daughter Married Female 4 1907 - Topsham Devon
Albert Pearce Son - Male 2 1909 - Topsham Devon

1939
37 White Street , St Thomas R.D., Devon, England
rst name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Albert G Pearce 29 Mar 1880 Male Medical Supplier Bricklayer Married 337 1
Mary L Pearce 26 Aug 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties (Wannell) Married 337 2
Albert H Pearce 28 Dec 1908 Male Bricklayer Single 337 3
Rosa E Kimber (Pearce) 17 Mar 1877 Female - Widowed 337 4

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 13:29

Wright Household (5 People)
19 Baker Street , Exeter C.B., Devon, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Mary Scanes (Pearce) 03 Apr 1914 Female Waitress Single 197 5
Sidney C Wright 01 Jan 1913 Male General Labourer Widowed 197 1
Edith Wright 21 Jul 1916 Female Waitress Married 197 2
Emily E Redgewell 26 May 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 197 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 13:32

Oooh Maddie thank you thats interesting too - just have to find a record linking George to the right set of parents now- I'm going to passs on all this info and suggest they buy his birth cert and work from there -then can fill in the gaos - thanks so much EVERYBODY for your help x

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 13:33

Birth not showing on freebmd

England & Wales Births 1837-2006

First name(s) MARY
Last name PEARCE
Birth year 1914
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Wannell
District St. Thomas
County Devon
Country England
Volume 5B
Page 71
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 13:38

Cant believe how helpful everyone is being xx

The lady I am helping (although youve all done most of it) is very grateful - and can hopefully find out more

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 13:52

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
PEARCE, EDITH ANNIE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 35

PEARCE, DORA ELLEN WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 33

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: SEE later post
PEARCE, SHIRLEY JOHN DANNELL <<<<<<<<< ?? mmn Wannell
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 34

PEARCE, ALBERT HENRY WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 33

PEARCE, HAROLD GEORGE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 37

PEARCE, HENRY GEORGE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 37

PEARCE, MARY WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1914 J Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 71

PEARCE, RITA MAY WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1915 M Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 5B Page 69

PEARCE, EVA BLANCHE WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 54 Order

PEARCE, NANCY BEATRICE MAUD WANNELL
GRO Reference: 1916 S Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 57 Order

From freebmd
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1921 (>99%)
Pearce George Wannell St.Thomas 5b 56

Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Pearce Joyce Wannell St.Thomas 5b 58

Familyfinder

Familyfinder Report 26 Nov 2018 14:05


1881 - posting so its all together!

Albert G. Pearce
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Samuel Pearce
Mother: Annie Pearce
Gender: Male
Where born: Topsham, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Topsham
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: Pound Lane
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2142
Folio: 96
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Pearce 33
Annie Pearce 34
Annie Pearce 9
Mattilda Pearce 7
Samuel Pearce 5
Frederick Pearce 3
Albert G. Pearce 1
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greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 14:09

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1904 (>99%)

Pearce Frederick Thomas St. Thomas 5b 139
Wannell Eva Blanche St. Thomas 5b 13

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Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales
Monmouth St Topsham, Topsham, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Pearce Head Married Male 33 1878 Carpenter Devon Topsham
Eva Pearce Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Devon Topsham
Edith Pearce Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Devon Topsham
Shirley Pearce Son - Male 4 1907 - Devon Topsham
Archibald Pearce Son - Male 0 1911 - Devon Topsham

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
PEARCE, SHIRLEY JOHN DANNELL <<<<<<<<< ?? mmn Wannell
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 34

not finding Archibald

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Nov 2018 14:17

Pearce Household (4 People)
19 Mennie Street , St Thomas R.D., Devon, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Eva B Pearce 03 Jan 1880 Female Domestic Duties At Home Married 194 2
Frederick T Pearce 12 Jan 1878 Male Carpenter Married 194 1
Rita M Perry (Pearce) 07 Feb 1916 Female Drapery Asst Single 194 3
Eva B Pearce 18 Jun 1915 Female Drapery Asst Single 194 4

EDIT - Rita born 1915 and Eva 1916 according to GRO entries