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I am new to site and have traced back to my great, great grandfather Joseph Stanley, born in 1815 in Wellingborough district but cannot access his birth certificate to enable me to go back further. How do I obtain details of ancestors prior to 1815?

Welcome to the boards, Peter.

There won't be a birth certificate, so far back. The best you can hope for will be a parish record of baptism.

How have you worked back to him? Have you found him on censuses?
Do you know his wife's name (if any)?

Is this possibly his death?:

Joseph Stanley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Joseph Stanley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Wellingborough
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 111

???

Joseph Stanley
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Joseph Stanley
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Sarah Stanley
Gender: Male
Where born: Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Finedon
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Barkers Sq
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration district: Wellingborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 1571
Folio: 97
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Stanley 66
Sarah Stanley 44
John Stanley 26
Thomas Stanley 18
Harry Stanley 13
Samuel Winsor 73



Or this one (unless he's the same man with a previous wife):

Joseph Stanley
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Joseph Stanley
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Stanley
Gender: Male
Where born: Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Finedon
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
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County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Wellingborough
Sub-registration district: Earls Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 116
Piece: 1743
Folio: 413
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Stanley 35
Ann Stanley 40
Joseph Stanley 9
Lucy Stanley 7
Sarah Stanley 5


???

Joseph Standley
in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Joseph Standley
Age: 0
Birth Date: 25 Oct 1816
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1816
Baptism Place: Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Finedon
Register Type: Bishops Transcripts
Father: William Standley
Mother: Elizabeth Standley

Is this the family in 1871 - Harry recorded as Grandson

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
West Street, North Millers Cottages, Finedon, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Stanley Head - Male 53 1818 - Northamptonshire, England
Sarah Stanley Wife - Female 40 1831 - Northamptonshire, England
Sarah D Dunkley Daughter - Female 25 1846 - Northamptonshire, England
Samuel Stanley Son - Male 16 1855 - Northamptonshire, England
John Stanley Son - Male 14 1857 - Northamptonshire, England
William T Stanley Son - Male 8 1863 - Northamptonshire, England
Harry Stanley Grandson - Male 3 1868 - Northamptonshire, England

??
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STANLEY, HARRY - Order
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 146

Joseph Stanley
mentioned in the record of Albert Stanley





Name: Joseph Stanley
Sex: Male
Wife: Sarah
Son: Albert Stanley
Other information in the record of Albert Stanley
from England Births and Christenings

Name: Albert Stanley
Residence Place: Finedon, Northampton, England
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Jan 1868
Christening Date (Original): 24 Jan 1868
Christening Place: Finedon, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Joseph Stanley
Mother's Name: Sarah

Joseph Stanley
mentioned in the record of Samuel Stanley





Name: Joseph Stanley
Sex: Male
Wife: Sarah
Son: Samuel Stanley
Other information in the record of Samuel Stanley
from England Births and Christenings

Name: Samuel Stanley
Residence Place: Finedon, Northampton, England
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Nov 1854
Christening Date (Original): 12 Nov 1854
Christening Place: Finedon, Northampton, England
Father's Name: Joseph Stanley
Mother's Name: Sarah

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1853 (>99%)
Bates Joseph Wellingbro 3b 330
PARKER Hannah Wellingbro 3b 330
RANDALL Sarah Wellingbro' 3b 330 <<<<<<<<
Stanley Joseph Wellingbro. 3b 330 <<<<<<<<<

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https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

STANLEY, WILLIAM THOMAS RANDALL Order
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 162 Order

joseph could have been married before he married sarah

Name Joseph Standley
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year 1838
Registration District Wellingborough
County Northamptonshire
Event Place Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England
Volume 15
Page 555
Affiliate Line Number 102

Joseph Standley probably married one of the following people
Name Ann Butlin
Name Elizabeth Patridge
Name Joseph Warner

Ann Stanley
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991

burial: 9 January 1853 Finedon, Northampton, England
spouse: Joseph

??
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
STANLEY, LUCY ANN BUBRIN Order
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 15 Page 415 Order

EDIT - Bubrin perhaps badly written initially or wrongly transcribed - see later post re Butlin

Did Ann die in or due to childbirth??

Name Sarah Butlin Stanley
Residence Place Finedon, Northampton, England
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Mar 1853
Christening Date (Original) 13 Mar 1853
Christening Place Finedon, Northampton, England
Father's Name Joseph Stanley
Mother's Name Ann

and if so was her maiden surname perhaps Butlin (or Bubrin as per Birth record of Lucy 1844)
and Sarah named for her?

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
STANLEY, ANN 43 Order
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 103

BUTLIN -

Joseph Standley
mentioned in the record of Joseph Standley and Ann Butlin
Name Joseph Standley
Spouse's Name Ann Butlin
Event Date 16 Apr 1838
Event Place Finedon, Northampton, England
Father's Name William Standley
Spouse's Father's Name Thos Butlin

??
Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
STANLEY, ELIZABETH 73 Order
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 94 Order

STANLEY, WILLIAM 73 Order
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH Volume 03B Page 102

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Finedon, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Stanley Head Married Male 64 1787 Pauper (Ag Lab) Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Elizabeth Stanley Wife Married Female 68 1783 - Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England
Elizabeth Stanley Daughter Unmarried Female 29 1822 Charwoman Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Henry Stanley Grand Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Finedon, Northamptonshire, England

??????
Pytchley about 3 miles from Burton Latimer (Elizabeth's place of birth as per 1851 census)

William Stanley
mentioned in the record of William Stanley and Elizabeth Herd
Name William Stanley
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Herd
Event Date 09 Jun 1807
Event Place Pytchley,Northampton,England

Love the address !!

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
No Name Given To This Part of the Village, Finedon, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Elizabeth Standley Female 55 1786 Northamptonshire, England
Elizabeth Standley Female 19 1822 Northamptonshire, England
Pheby Standley Female 16 1825 Northamptonshire, England
Elizabeth Muns Female 16 1825 Northamptonshire, England
Thomas Smith Male 42 1799 Northamptonshire, England
Hannah Smith Female 42 1799 Northamptonshire, England
William Smith Male 22 1819 Northamptonshire, England
Esther Smith Female 13 1828 Northamptonshire, England

William perhaps away working if he's an Ag. Lab.

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Phoebe Standley
England Births and Christenings
Name Phoebe Standley
Residence Place Northampton, England
Gender Female
Christening Date 04 Sep 1825
Christening Date (Original) 4 Sep 1825
Christening Place Finedon, Northampton, England
Father's Name Willm
Mother's Name Elizth

PM from Peter [I've advised him to add any more replies on here ]:

"Your details from the 1881 census appear to fit other relatives. What I need to try to do now is to get joseph,s birth details to show his parents etc which I can’t seem to get. Any suggestions. Many thanks for your response."



Peter, as already said, you will only find out his parents' names if you can find a record of his baptism, naming his parents.
Many such old parish records are no longer in existence. There may be no record to find.
At 15:55 I posted the baptism of a Joseph Standley in Finedon in 1816.
This may or may not be the right one.
Remember that spelling of names wasn't standardised, and often depended on how the person writing it thought it sounded.

Peter, you say that the 1881 census details "appear to fit other relatives" - in what way?

Can you please give all the details you have on Joseph and say what takes you back to c 1815 Wellingborough area.

One of his children was your great grandfather, one of his your grandfather etc., how have you got back to him?

Presume you have census details and proven marriages / births etc?

Either of his marriage certificates should show his Father's name and occupation.

For greyghost:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1012470

Just possibly the parents of the Joseph Standley baptised 1816 ???

William Stanley
in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Stanley
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Stanley
Gender: Male
Where born: Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Finedon
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Wellingborough
Sub-registration district: Earls Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 114
Piece: 1743
Folio: 412
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stanley 64 - pauper (ag. lab.)
Elizabeth Stanley 68 - Burton Latimer, Northants.
Elizabeth Stanley 29 - daughter, Finedon, charwoman
Henry Stanley 9 - grandson, Finedon


???
Wm Stanley
in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1532-1812
Name: Wm Stanley
Gender: Male
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 Jan 1807
Marriage Place: Burton Latimer, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Burton Latimer
Register Type: Bishops Transcripts
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Spouse: Eliz Muns


???
William Stanley
in the Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1532-1812
Name: William Stanley
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 7 Jul
Baptism Date: 31 Jul 1787
Baptism Place: Finedon, Northamptonshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Finedon
Register Type: Bishops Transcripts
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: John Stanley
Mother: Martha Stanley

William and Elizabeth appear to have had these children in Finedon and Burton Latimer (unless there's another William/Elizabeth couple):
Fanny 1814, William 1812, Thomas 1807, John 1809, as well as Joseph


???
Elizabeth Stanley
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Elizabeth Stanley
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Burial Date: 5 Mar 1857
Burial Place: Finedon, Northampton, England
Spouse: William
FHL Film Number: 1999285
Reference ID: item 1 p 162


???
William Stanley
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: William Stanley
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Burial Date: 27 Jan 1861
Burial Place: Finedon, Northampton, England
Spouse: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 1999285
Reference ID: item 1 p 183

AG - looks a better marriage match for William and Elizabeth, especially as there is an Elizabeth Muns in the 1841 household posted earlier.

My initial search when I first started showed father (KEnneth Barry) and grandfather (Reginald John) and when I clicked on grandfather his father (John) was shown plus his grandfather (Joseph). All of my family were from Finedon, Wellingborough area. John is shown as having siblings Thomas,Harry and Albert so 1881 census details would appear to be correct.
I am really grateful for the help you people are giving me but, being completely new to this, I wonder whether I need to be looking elsewhere for the information you guys seem to be getting. How do I broaden my search for say joseph’s or william’s ancestors?
It does look as though William and Elizabeth per AG may well bea good match
Thanks