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Peter McKinnon born 1851 - Professional Mariner

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Sharon

Sharon Report 3 Nov 2018 13:59

I am trying to track down the link to the Isle of Skye (my father has told me his ancestors came from Skye). I have Peter's marriage certificate on 27 Dec 1879 to Margaret Elizabeth Mitchell in Phillack, Cornwall. His occupation is given as Mariner and he says that he is 28 years old. His father, John McKinnon is listed as an Engineer. I would like to know:

a/ where and when Peter was born

b/ where his family lived. I know for a fact that they hail from Skye at some point but John is of course a very common name and I can't find one that links convincingly to Peter.

Thank you for advice/suggestions.

Sharon

Sharon Report 3 Nov 2018 14:02

Forgot to add that Peter and Mary had a daughter, Martha Louisa McKinnon born in Hayle, Cornwall in 1878/9. Sadly, it appears that Peter died some time between 1880 and 1887 as in December 1887 I also have the marriage certificate for Mary Eliabeth McKinnon's second marriage to a George Hall, where she is listed as a widow. Any details of what happened to Peter (although I appreciate that as a sailor he may have been buried at sea) would be appreciated too.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:02

Where are his wife and child in 1881?

Sharon

Sharon Report 3 Nov 2018 14:04

Also should say that Martha Louisa McKinnon is my great grandmother.

Sharon

Sharon Report 3 Nov 2018 14:05

Yes, I have tried that but can find no record of him (perhaps he was away at sea, I don't know). I've tried both the Scotland and England Censuses for 1881. Thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:06

Sorry, edited my post after re-reading your second one

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:20

I can’t see a birth for Martha

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Nov 2018 14:28

?
Birth
MITCHELL, MARTHA LOUISA (No mother's maiden name listed)
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in REDRUTH Volume 05C Page 249

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 3 Nov 2018 14:31

Truro, Cornwall, England, Police Charge Books, 1846-1896

Name: Peter McKinnon
Birth Year: abt 1853
Age: 30
Charge Date: 1883
Charge Place: Truro, Cornwall, England
Residence Place: of Hayle, late of Glasgow
Charge: Drunk & disorderly in the public street, viz., Charles Street. Pleaded guilty. "Found on person" 4s.7½d. Received [signature] "Peter McKinnon". Fined 2s.6d. & 4s. costs. Paid.
Offender or Witness: Charged
Description: Sailor

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Nov 2018 14:33

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Bodriggy Street, Phillack, Redruth, Cornwall, England
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Mary E Hall's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Mitchell Head Widow Female 79 1812 - Cornwall, England
Charles Mitchell Son Single Male 46 1845 Engine Fitter Cornwall, England
Mary E Hall Daughter Married Female 36 1855 - Cornwall, England
George Hall Son In Law Married Male 37 1854 General Labourer Essex, England
Martha L Mitchell Granddaughter Single Female 13 1878 Scholar Cornwall, England -------------
Mary F McKennel Granddaughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Cornwall, England
Mary E Hall's Census Details
Details taken from the original census record.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Nov 2018 14:33

In your first post you say that Peter married Margaret Elizabeth but later posts say Mary.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:37

Not sure you need to worry too much about Mckinnons, as Martha probably wasn't Peter's child

Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
MCKINNON Peter Redruth 5c 318
MITCHELL Mary Elizabeth Redruth 5c 318

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:40

1891

William A Lawry Head Widower Male 75 1816 Tin Dresser Cornwall, England
Mary J Pengelly Niece Single Female 41 1850 - Cornwall, England
Rebecca M Pengelly Niece Single Female 31 1860 - Cornwall, England
Martha L McKennan Visitor Single Female 13 1878 - Cornwall, England

Image shows Martha's birthplace as Phillack, Hayle

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Nov 2018 14:42

Is this the family in Phillick/Phillack, Cornwall in 1881? Mary E. is listed as married but she's Mitchell same as her mother.

Mary Mitchell 70 , head, widow
Charles Mitchell 35 , son, unmarried
Mary E. Mitchell 25 , daughter, married
Martha Mitchell 4 , daughter, unmarried

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:44

Mary F Mckennel on 1891 must be a child of the marriage...............


Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
McKennon Mary Flora Redruth 5c 243

So, unless Mary was playing away, Peter was alive towards the end of 1881

EDITED

Certainly around in 1883 in view of the posting above of his court appearance

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:45

Even if Peter died at sea, his death should be registered - normally at the first port of call thereafter

Maddie

Maddie Report 3 Nov 2018 14:49

from a tree on ancestry
Death
1880 - 1886

Peter MacKinnon died after his marriage to Mary Elizabeth Mitchell as she is named as a widow on the certificate of her second marriage to George Hall on 26 December 1887. I have yet to find out when and where Peter died.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:52

1871

Name: Peter Mckennan
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Son
Father's name: John Mckennan
Mother's name: Mary Mckennan
Gender: Male
Where born: Falkirk, Stirling
Registration Number: 646/3
Registration district: Partick
Civil Parish: Govan
Town: Partick
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 192 Castlebank St
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 147
LINE: 22
Roll: CSSCT1871_144
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mckennan 46 Shipbuilder's labourer
Mary Mckennan 55
Peter Mckennan 21
Catherine Mckennan 19
Malcolm Mckennan 16


1861
Name: John Mckinnon
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Mckinnon
Gender: Male
Where born: Skye, Invernesshire************************************************
Registration Number: 479/2
Registration district: Falkirk Landward
Civil Parish: Falkirk Landward
County: Stirlingshire
Address: 4 Underwood
Occupation: Labourer In Chemicab Work
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 114
LINE: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_64
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mckinnon 37
Mary Mckinnon 44
Peter Mckinnon 11
Catherine Mckinnon 9
Malcolm Mckinnon 6


Peter's info about his father's occ may be inaccurate.............he wouldn't be the first to try to impress the in-laws

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 14:53



Just because Mary said she was a widow, doesn't necessarily mean that she was one!

Sharon

Sharon Report 3 Nov 2018 16:56

Sorry - I had to go out for a while. I will answer the responses in the order they've come in. Erika H - re Martha Louisa's birth certificate. I have ordered one from the Cornwall Records Office so am waiting for that to arrive at present.