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Frank Crofts born 1885 Staveley Derbyshire

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Ellen

Ellen Report 9 Nov 2018 00:27

Just received the certificate & it is the wrong Frank Crofts,thank you everyone for your help always good service here

Ellen

Ellen Report 3 Nov 2018 23:15

They did not divorce he just left so it looks like the West Bromwich Frank Crofts is not mine after all thanks for all your input

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 12:09

Aha! Your Frank is Francis and Annie's son:

Frank Crofts
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Frank Crofts
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 23
Birth Date: 1885
Marriage Date: 22 Feb 1908
Marriage Place: Swanwick, Derbyshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Father: Francis Crofts <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Evelyn Jowitt


EDIT:
sorry, Dea, I see you've already got there!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 12:08

Baptism - confirms JFM birth

Parents Frank (Pattern maker) and Annie Elizabeth

Name: Frank Crofts
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 10 Apr 1885
Baptism Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 12:06

??? This one :

Frank Crofts
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Frank Crofts
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1885
Father: Frances Crofts
Mother: Anne E Crofts
Birth Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Staveley
Residence Place: Staveley, Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Sub registration district: Eckington
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 2768
Folio: 113
Household Members:
Name Age
Frances Crofts 33
Anne E Crofts 34
William A Crofts 9
Frank Crofts 6
Ethel M Crofts 3
Edwin H Crofts 1



Or this one ?


Frank Crofts
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Frank Crofts
Gender: Male
Age: 5
Relationship: Grandson
Birth Year: 1886
Birth Place: Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Staveley
Residence Place: Handley, Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Sub registration district: Eckington
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 2768
Folio: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Crofts 51
Mary Crofts 49
Ernest Crofts 31 <<< son
Alice Crofts 28 <<< - daughter-in-law
Paul Crofts 28
Ada Crofts 25
Albert Crofts 20
Emma Crofts 16
Sarah E Crofts 14
Amy Crofts 12
Willis Crofts 10
Frank Crofts 5 - grandson
Gertrude Crofts 2 - grand-daughter
Maud Crofts 1 - grand-daughter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 12:06

Did he and his wife divorce?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 12:02

Odds are that this is the one who died in West Bromwich

1911
Mary Ann Crofts Head Widow Female 66 1845 Scrap Iron Dealer Staffs West Bromwich
Frank Crofts Son Single Male 26 1885 Son Assisting In Business Staffs West Bromwich
Helen Crofts Daughter Single Female 28 1883 School Teacher Staffs West Bromwich
Florence Crofts Daughter Single Female 23 1888 House Work Staffs West Bromwich


1901

William Crofts Head Married Male 50 1851 Serap Iron Merchant West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Mary A Crofts Wife Married Female 52 1849 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
James Crofts Son Single Male 20 1881 Carter West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Ellen Crofts Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Pupil Teacher West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Frank Crofts Son Single Male 12 1889 Spring Maker West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Florence Crofts Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Dea

Dea Report 3 Nov 2018 12:02

That's the one ErikaH

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 12:01

If this is him in 1891, the school record isn't his.

His must be the JFM birth

Frances Crofts Head Married Male 33 1858 Ironworks Pattern Maker Derbyshire, England
Anne E Crofts Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Derbyshire, England
William A Crofts Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Derbyshire, England
Frank Crofts Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Derbyshire, England
Ethel M Crofts Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Derbyshire, England
Edwin H Crofts Son - Male 1 1890 - Derbyshire, England

Dea

Dea Report 3 Nov 2018 12:00

His father was Francis from the marriage cert so his birth is the mmn Armstrong one. (Annie E Armstrong)

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Nov 2018 11:59

First name(s) Frank
Last name Crofts
Birth year 1885
Birth date 04 Aug 1885
Event year 1890
School name Handley Church Of England School
Town Handley
County Derbyshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Ernest
Book type Admissions
Archive reference D79_2
Folio / page no. -
Archive Derbyshire Record Office

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:59

Which couple were your Frank's parents?

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
CROFTS Ernest Chesterfield 7b 1247
Heeley Alice Chesterfield 7b 1247

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
ARMSTRONG Annie Elizabeth Chesterfield 7b 927
Crofts Francis Chesterfield 7b 927

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:55

Do you know Frank's exact date of birth?

There were two Frank Crofts born in Chesterfield reg district (which includes Staveley) in 1885:

CROFTS, FRANK mms ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 786

CROFTS, FRANK mms HEELEY
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 729

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:45

Must be the wrong Frank, as Selina's family were in West Bromwich in 1881 (above)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:42

In 1891 and 1901 Selina's a live-in servant in West Bromwich (transcribed Crafts on Ancestry for 1901) so no help with family connections.

I haven't found her in 1911.

Dea

Dea Report 3 Nov 2018 11:40

Selina was Frank's sister!!


CROFTS, SELINA WOOTTON Order
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 700

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
CROFTS, FRANK WOOTTON Order
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 830

It looks like the wrong Frank ??

Dea x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:34

the 1939 Register entry I posted shows that a Selina Crofts was living with Esther and James, and was still there until 1942.

Esther was possibly her landlady??

Selina had lived in Seagar Street (where Frank was living when he died, although a different house) as a child.

Ellen

Ellen Report 3 Nov 2018 11:30

I Have sent for the Death Certificate hope its the right Frank Crofts.

I just found the Probate I do not know who Esther Poulton is possibly someone at his work or someone who helps him (help wise? ) hope the certificate helps.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:26

Is Selina relevant to your Frank's family ?

Selina Crofts
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Selina Crofts
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: William Crofts
Mother: Mary Ann Crofts
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: West Bromwich
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 11 Seagar St <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: West Bromwich North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors:
Piece: 2851
Folio: 95
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Crofts 38
Mary Ann Crofts 35
Jane Crofts 16
William Crofts 15
Mary Ann Crofts 13
Selina Crofts 11
Martha Crofts 9
Alfred Crofts 8
James Crofts 6
John Crofts 1
Arthur Crofts



Selina Crofts
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: Selina Crofts
Death Date: 2 Aug 1942
Death Place: Staffordshire, Stafford, England
Probate Date: 28 Sep 1942
Registry: Birmingham, England

Crofts, Selina, of 29 Lyndhurst Road, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, died 2 August 1942.
Probate Birmingham 28 September to Esther Poulton (wife of James Poulton).
Effects £312 14s 6d

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Nov 2018 11:25

James Poulton
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: James Poulton
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 6 Dec 1867
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 29 Lyndhurst Road
Residence Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Blacksmith (retired)
Schedule Number: 442
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: OPAZ
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred Spouse: Esther Poulton
Household Members:
Name
James Poulton
Esther Poulton
Selina Crofts - 24/07/1869 , single <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Josephine Broom, single