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18 Oct 2018 09:49 |
I have found William Hearson (born 26/2/1878 )on the 1939 Register living at 13 Cross Street, Arnold Notts, also with him is a Harry Smith born 12/3/1918 Basford (mothers maiden name Turton) & a Maude Smith born 25/3/1915 ( maiden name Hind) they married 1938 at Basford. They possibly divorced as she then married a Norman C Minard in 1948 at Basford I would like to know if Harry Smith is related to William Hearson or they are just lodging there? William Hearson married a Jane Elizabeth Cox in 1897 at Basford,she died in 1927 at Basford. Any help much appreciated.
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18 Oct 2018 10:32 |
The 1939 Register entry you refer to
Hearson Household (3 People) 13 Cross Street , Arnold U.D., Nottinghamshire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER William Hearson 26 Feb 1878 Male Miner (Ripper) Below Widowed 300 1 Harry Smith 12 Mar 1918 Male Machine Fitter Married 300 2 Maude Minard (Smith) 24 Mar 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 300 3
What have you done yourself to try to establish a possible relationship?
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18 Oct 2018 10:37 |
William Hearson in 1911 with wife and family.
Married 14 years. 8 children born and still living
1911 Census For England & Wales 62 Cross St Arnold, Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hearson Head Married Male 33 1878 Coal Miner Hewer Nottingham Parish of Arnold Jane Elizabeth Hearson Wife Married Female 33 1878 None Nottingham Parish of Arnold Florence May Hearson Daughter - Female 14 1897 None Nottingham Parish of Arnold William Lanford Hearson Son - Male 12 1899 None Nottingham Parish of Arnold Olice Annie Hearson Daughter - Female 10 1901 None Nottingham Parish of Arnold Jane Elizabeth Hearson Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Nottingham Parish of Arnold John Cyril Hearson Son - Male 6 1905 - Nottingham Parish of Arnold Dorothy Maria Hearson Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Nottingham Parish of Arnold Ivy Hearson Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Nottingham Parish of Arnold Thomas Hearson Son - Male 1 1910 - Nottingham Parish of Arnold
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18 Oct 2018 10:41 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1897 (>99%) COX Jane Elizabeth Basford 7b 199 Hearson William Basford 7b 199
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: HEARSON, WILLIAM SANFORD COX Order GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 275 Order
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18 Oct 2018 10:46 |
Although Smith is obviously a common surname, the birth records of William appear to show his mmn as Smith so maybe he and Harry were related
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HEARSON, WILLIAM SMITH Order GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 227
COX, JANE ELIZABETH COOK Order GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 208
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18 Oct 2018 10:49 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Cross Street, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Hearson Head Married Male 32 1849 Frame W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Anne Hearson Wife Married Female 31 1850 Seamer Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Hearson Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholars Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Eliza Hearson Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholars Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England John Hearson Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholars Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Sarah Hearson Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England William Hearson Son Single Male 3 1878 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Frederick Hearson Son Single Male 1 1880 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
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18 Oct 2018 10:50 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
Heaison John Basford 7b 142 Hearson John Basford 7b 142 Smith Ann Basford 7b 142
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18 Oct 2018 10:55 |
2 Ann Smith's born c 1851 and living Arnold.
The marriage certificate of John and Ann will name Fathers
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Top of Town, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Smith Head Married Male 24 1827 F W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Elizabeth Smith Wife Married Female 18 1833 F W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Ann Smith - - Female 0 1851 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Aaron Smith Head Married Male 29 1822 T W K Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Maria Smith Wife Married Female 25 1826 Seamster Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Ann Smith Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
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18 Oct 2018 11:01 |
Unfortunately no mention of Fathers here on freereg (or on FMP - Notts marriages) County Nottinghamshire Place Arnold Church name St Mary Register type Unspecified Marriage date 28 Jun 1869 Groom forename John Groom surname HEARSON Bride forename Ann Bride surname SMITH Transcribed by Laura Berry Credit Laura Berry File line number 2948
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18 Oct 2018 11:15 |
?? Do you have the Smith/Turton marriage cert - who is named as his Father and occupation
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
First name(s) FREDERICK HENRY Last name SMITH Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1905 Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™ FREDERICK HENRY SMITH married one of these people Harriett Bacon, Fanny Turton District Basford District number - County Nottinghamshire Country England Volume 7B Volume as transcribed 7B Page number 260
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Married 5 years 3 children born, 1 alive 2 have died
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederick Henry Smith Head Married Male 30 1881 Licensed Victualer Arnold Notts Fanny Smith Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Arnold Notts Freda Mary Smith Daughter - Female 1 1910 - - Herbert Mellor Servant Married Male 29 1882 Brewer Arnold Notts Rose Scotton Servant Married Female 28 1883 Servant Hyson Green Nottm
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 12:02 |
Harry's father
SMITH, FREDERICK HENRY (MMN) STOUT GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 202
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 12:14 |
1901
(Robin Hood Inn), Church Street, Arnold, Basford, Nottinghamshire, England
George Smith Head Married Male 54 1847 Inn Keeper Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Sophia Smith Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Annie Perkins Daughter Married Female 30 1871 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Frederick H Smith Son Single Male 20 1881 Plumber Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Arthur Smith Son Single Male 18 1883 Bricklayer Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Marguerite Smith Daughter Single Female 18 1883 School Teacher Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Mabel Smith Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Shop Girl Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England George Smith Son Single Male 11 1890 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Nelly Perkins Grand Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Mabel Perkins Grand Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Thomas Martin Servant Married Male 32 1869 Brewer Nottinghamshire, England
1881
George Smith Head Married Male 34 1847 Carpenter And Furniture Maker Employing 1 Man & 2 Boys Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Sophia Smith Wife Married Female 34 1847 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Annie Smith Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Samuel Smith Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Mathew C Smith Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Mary E Smith Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Alfred G Smith Son Single Male 4 1877 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Frederick Smith Son Single Male 0 1881 - Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 12:17 |
Neither of the Ann Smiths found above has a brother George as far as one can tell
1939 doesn't, as you know, record relationships.
Have you done any research yourself to determine whether there is a connection?
I would think it unlikely that there is one.
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Ellen
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18 Oct 2018 12:22 |
William Hearson parents were John Hearson 1848 at Arnold & Ann Smith 1851 died 1908 at Arnold they married 1869 Basford, I do not know who her parents were
Frederick Henry Smith born 1881 mother was ? Stout
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 12:40 |
SMITH, MATTHEW CHARLES STOUT GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 176
There isn't any record of a marriage for George Smith and Sophia Stout
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ErikaH
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18 Oct 2018 12:41 |
1851
Name: George Smith Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Father's name: Charles Smith Mother's name: Mary Smith Gender: Male Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Arnold Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England
Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Arnold ED, institution, or vessel: 6d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 221 Piece: 2128 Folio: 207 Page Number: 54 Household Members: Name Age Charles Smith 34 Mary Smith 37 George Smith 4 Saml Smith 1 Ann Rowth 15
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18 Oct 2018 12:43 |
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Name: George Smith Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Spouse's Name: Sophia Smith Father's name: Charles Smith Mother's name: Mary Smith Gender: Male Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Arnold Town: Arnold County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Arnold ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Household schedule number: 61 Piece: 3493 Folio: 9 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Charles Smith 53 Mary Smith 58 George Smith 24 Sophia Smith 24 Annie Smith 11 Months
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18 Oct 2018 12:43 |
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Name: Sophia Stout Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Mathew Stout Mother's name: Sarah Stout Gender: Female Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Duddeston ED, institution, or vessel: 01 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 2061 Folio: 20 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Mathew Stout 23 Sarah Stout 23 Sophia Stout 4 Margarett Stout 2 Sarah Stout 2 Mo
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18 Oct 2018 12:44 |
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Name: Sophia Stout Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: 1847 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Arnold County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Basford Sub-registration district: Arnold ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 2443 Folio: 68 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Sophia Ascroft 73 Samuel Ascroft 47 Ann Ascroft 27 Sophia Stout 14
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18 Oct 2018 12:50 |
SMITH, SARAH ANN STOUT GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 170
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