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cane

cane Report 18 Oct 2018 10:02

Many thanks everyone
Thanks for the Link Greyghost

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2018 22:57

Use this site to look for births with mmn listed from 1837 - 1917. I used Surname Welsh to include similar sounding variations and mmn Tomlinson with Chorlton as District

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

You can also look for deaths with ages given from 1837 onwards

It may have filled some of the large gaps you thought you had

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
WALSH, MARGARET ELLEN TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 20 Page 257 Order

WALSH, - TOMLINSON Order (Listed under Male births)
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 493 Order

WELSH, HANNAH TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 597 Order

WELCH, SARAH ANN TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 596 Order

WELSH, JOSEPH WILLIAM TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 530 Order

WELCH, HENRY TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 602 Order

WELCH, WILLIAM BOYCE TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 598 Order

WELCH, MARY JANE TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 611 Order

WELSH, ROBERT TOMLINSON Order
GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 664

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 22:54

If you take time to read the 1881 census , you will see that the Lowes and Parrot are LODGERS

It would utterly futile to look for any other connections

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2018 20:15

There are 5 children shown on Manchester Baprisms on ancestry, and yes, the births are widely spread


Margaret Ellen Walsh 25 Jul 1847 Hulme, St George Edward, Margaret

Sarah Ann Welch 2 Apr 1855 Hulme, St George Edward, Margaret

Joseph William Welch 17 Jul 1857 Hulme, St George Edward, Margaret

William Welsh 8 Apr 1860 Hulme, St George Edward,Margaret

Robert Welch 10 Apr 1866 Hulme, St George Edward, Margaret

Mary Jane Welch 19 Jan 1868 Hulme, St George Edward, Margaret



That could be the result of miscarriages, stillbirths, or simply not getting pregnant

For example, my maternal grandmother had 4 children ... 1903, 1910, 1915, 1925 ........... and there was never any mention of any other pregnancies by my mother (the eldest child).

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2018 20:02

Cane ..

you posted ..

"I have Edwards death certificate for 1889 in salford His wife Margaret is the informant and she states his age as 67"

1889 - 67 = 1822

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 19:13

If anyone would like a bash at how the low;s and Parrots are related the the Walsh's please feel free..I have tried

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 19:02

1881 CENSUS 100%

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 19:01

Edwards age (possible)

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 18:59

The surnames vary from walsh to Walch, Welch,Welsh etc

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:48

1881

Edward Walsh Head Married Male 60 1821 Slaters Labourer Manchester, Lancashire, England
Margaret Walsh Wife Married Female 50 1831 - Salford, Lancashire, England
William Walsh Son Single Male 21 1860 Dyer Hulme, Lancashire, England
Robert Walsh Son Single Male 17 1864 (No Occ) Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Parrot Lodger Single Male 25 1856 Corporation Carter Hulme, Lancashire, England
Sushanah Lowe Lodger Head Widower Male 55 1826 - Scotland
John Lowe Lodger Single Male 22 1859 Dyer Labourer Hulme, Lancashire, England
Ellen Lowe Lodger Single Female 15 1866 No Scholar Hulme, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:43

'Possible'........what is?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:36

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference

WELCH William Boyce TOMLINSON Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/92/36

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 18:36

Possible

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:35


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1855
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference

WELCH Sarah Ann TOMLINSON Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/66/13


One must assume that the age for Edward in 1861 is totally wrong

Doesn't answer your original query, but, as I said earlier, the only way to find out is to buy a cert

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 18:35

Sarah ann is the informant on her mother (Margaret's) Death certificate

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:31

A sibling?

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
WALSH (boy) TOMLINSON Hulme Archives+, Manchester Central Library HUL/53/16

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 18:28

Edwards occupation

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:25

A child of the 1845 marriage

Name: Margaret Ellen Walsh
Age: 0
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1847
Baptism Date: 25 Jul 1847
Baptism Place: Hulme, St George, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Manchester
Father: Edward Walsh
Mother: Margaret Walsh, formerly Tomlinson

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2018 18:23

Well, something doesn't tally

How did you get back to this couple?

cane

cane Report 17 Oct 2018 18:20

I have Edwards death certificate for 1889 in salford His wife Margaret is the informant and she states his age as 67