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Disappearing Florence

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Oct 2018 20:34

Certainly a possibility.
One of our well known, now free, GR members has suggested

"Florence and Victor seem to be together 1930 eroll in Beaconsfield terrace Hammersmith South, not (?) to be confused with the Victor H and Constance Rosa also in Hammersmith S same year, "

Too tired to follow up tonight, but if Constance & Victor are together in 1930, Hammersmith, would she have hot footed it to marry in the same year?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 19:27

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Gray Victor C H Smith Thrapston 3b 225

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Gray Constance R Smith Thrapston 3b 354

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 19:12

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Fortescue Household (5 People)
Lodge Little Inchester , Wellingborough R.D., Northamptonshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S)
Constance R Harris
DOB 26 Sep 1893
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Housekeeper
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 388
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

Lewis Harry Fortescue
DOB 22 Feb 1874
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Farmer Retired
MARITAL STATUS Widowed
SCHEDULE 388
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Lewis Edwards Fortescue
DOB 24 Sep 1915
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Horseman On Farm
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 388
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

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Ref: RG101/6154F/008/24 Letter Code:
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rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 19:07

CONSTANCE R
Last name GRAY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1930
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™
CONSTANCE R GRAY married one of these people
John W Harris
Spouse's last name Harris
District Northampton
District number -
County Northamptonshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Volume as transcribed 3B
Page number 194
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 19:04

I think Constance and Victor split up and I think she remarried in Northamptonshire (she's on the Northamptonshire ER in 1930)

CONSTANCE ROSA
Last name HARRIS
Gender Female
Birth day 26
Birth month 9
Birth year 1892
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1987
District Wellingborough
Register number 187
County Northamptonshire
Volume 7
Page 2920
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:38


Marriages Mar 1917
Gray Victor H Smith Northampton 3b 128
Smith Constance R Gray Northampton 3b 128

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:35

1930 ER, Victor is with Constance ROSA Gray by 1931 he's with Florence Mary Gray.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:25

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
GRAY Victor Henry Headington 3a 771

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:17

The Victor on the 1939 register with Florence is an older man.


Gray Household (7 People)
63 Vicarage Road , Sunbury-on-Thames U.D., Middlesex, England

Victor H Gray
DOB 11 Aug 1888
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Transport Controller
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 64
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Florence M Gray
DOB 29 Apr 1904
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 64
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

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Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Ref: RG101/0901F/006/12 Letter Code:
© Findmypast Ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:10

She's with Victor in 1939!

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Gray Household (4 People)
88 Bells Hill , Barnet U.D., Hertfordshire, England

Constance E Gray
DOB 15 Oct 1905
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Domestic
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 154
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

Victor H Gray
DOB 10 Feb 1902
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Gas Fitter (Heavy Work)
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 154
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

Eileen T Griggs (Gray)
DOB 01 Jan 1929
SEX Female
OCCUPATION At School
MARITAL STATUS Single
SCHEDULE 154
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 3

Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Ref: RG101/1186H/014/12 Letter Code:
© Findmypast Ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:05

Here she is

First name(s) CONSTANCE ELFREDA
Last name GRAY
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 10
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1984
District Westminster
Register number 584
County London
Volume 15
Page 1695
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Oct 2018 18:01

I think The Constance A Duke was actually this one, Constance Elfrida Duke.


1911 Census For England & Wales
11 Albion Place Bells Hill Barnet, Chipping Barnet, Hertfordshire, England

Sabert Duke Head Married Male 32 1879 Carman Tottenham
Elizabeth Duke Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Barnet Essex Herts
Victor Duke Son - Male 6 1905 - Barnet Essex Herts
Constance Duke Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Barnet Essex Herts
Sabert Duke Son - Male 3 1908 - Barnet Essex Herts
Leonard Duke Son - Male 1 1910 - Barnet Essex Herts


Not seeing a death or remarriage for her at the moment.

malyon

malyon Report 4 Oct 2018 17:55

the baby constance died 1926

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Oct 2018 17:41

Hmm - the bride from the 1926 marriage was Constance A Duke.
So where's she gone?

malyon

malyon Report 4 Oct 2018 17:12

Births Sep 1926 (>99%)
Gray Constance Duke
Gray Georgina M Duke
Births Mar 1929 (>99%)
Gray Eileen T Duke Barnet 3a 670
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Gray Ronald J R Duke Barnet 3a 816

malyon

malyon Report 4 Oct 2018 17:09

Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Gray Victor H Duke Barnet 3a 922

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Oct 2018 14:29

Lilian Florence Huckle married in Wandsworth Reg. Its not quite on the Sunbury-on-Thames doorstep, but in the right direction.

The 1939 register for Florence L Gray (Hall) has 4 closed records.
As Victor H Gray seems to have been previously married, might some of them be his?

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 4 Oct 2018 13:56

Exactly!

Mary

Mary Report 4 Oct 2018 13:49

lilian F Huckle 1923 is with William I/T Hall and Mary Ann Hall at 90,Corperation Street in 1939,so is the question did Florence Hall/Huckle get together with Victor H Gray.

Maryb.

malyon

malyon Report 4 Oct 2018 13:34

florence M Hall
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Collections from
Great Britain, England
Country
England
County
Essex
Year
1963
Birth Year
1904
Age
59
Event Quarter
2
District
Maldon