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Wondered what happened to my Alice

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Sep 2018 11:41

This seems to be Alice traveling to Canada but she's alone and going to join husband:


Alice Brown
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name:
Alice Brown
Gender:
Female Arrival Age:
34

Birth Year:
abt 1877
Departure Port:
Bristol, England
Arrival date:
21 Jun 1911
Arrival Port:
Quebec, Canada
Vessel:
Royal George

Search Ship Database:
Search for the Royal George in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Sep 2018 11:32

Not seeing them on travel records or the Canadian census,s

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Sep 2018 09:36

Looks like William was actually born early 1875 so age a couple of years out on the 1901 census

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BROWN, WILLIAM EDWIN SALTER Order
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 101 Order

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Do you have this?

Devon Marriages

First name(s) William Edwin
Last name Brown
Age 23
Birth year 1875
Marriage year 1898
Marriage date 31 Dec 1898
Place Exeter, St David
Residence 20 Exe ST
Father's first name William Edwin
Father's last name Brown
Spouse's first name(s) Alice
Spouse's last name Ball
Spouse age 22
Spouse's residence 6 Napier Terrace
Spouse's father's first name(s) John William
Spouse's father's last name Ball
County Devon
Denomination Anglican
Country England
Archive South West Heritage Trust
Archive reference 2931A/PR/1/22
Record set Devon Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Sep 2018 08:49

Alice and Eliza together in 1881

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
9, Chapples Court, Exeter St David, Exeter, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Ball Head Married Male 46 1835 Slater & Plasterer Exeter, Devon, England
Sarah Ball Wife Married Female 42 1839 - Crediton, Devon, England
Joseph John Ball Son Single Male 19 1862 Slater & Plasterer Exeter, Devon, England
Ellen Ball Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England
Harriet Ball Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England
Eliza Ball Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England
Bessy Ball Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England
James Ball Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England
Alice Ball Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Scholar Exeter, Devon, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BALL, ALICE WOODLAND Order
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 112 Order

BALL, ELIZA WOODLAND Order
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 107 Order

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Sep 2018 08:44

Niece Ethel from the 1911 with parents 1901 - mmn Ball, so would look as though 1911 correct for William and Alice

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
2, Cemetery Place, Exeter, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bartlett Head Married Male 27 1874 Maltsters Labourer Exeter, Devon, England
Eliza Bartlett Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Exeter, Devon, England
Ethel Bartlett Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Exeter, Devon, England
Gertrude Bartlett Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Exeter, Devon, England

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BARTLETT, ETHEL BESSIE BALL Order
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 85

BARTLETT, GERTRUDE MARY BALL Order
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 81 Order

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%)
Ball Eliza Exeter 5b 140 <<<<<<<<<<
Bartlett William Thomas Exeter 5b 140 <<<<<<<<
Hart William Phillips Exeter 5b 140
Kindersley Katharine Mary Exeter 5b 140

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Sep 2018 08:33

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
Baker Mary Louise Exeter 5b 136 S
Ball Alice Exeter 5b 136
Brown William Edwin Exeter 5b 136
Porter Charles Exeter 5b 136

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Is this them in 1911 ?

Married 12 years No children born alive

1911 Census For England & Wales
99 Portland Street Exeter, Exeter, Devon, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Edwin Brown Head Married Male 36 1875 Ironmonger's Smith Devon Exeter St Johns
Alice Brown Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Devon Exeter St Davids
Ethel Bartlett Niece Single Female 15 1896 Upholsteress Devon Exeter St Davids


RockyMountainShy

RockyMountainShy Report 28 Sep 2018 06:00

I didn't find a birth either but is what the census says.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Sep 2018 01:15

Not seeing any births in that area with MMN Ball.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Sep 2018 01:14

Still in Exeter in 1901:

Name: William E Brown
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Event Place: Exeter, Devonshire, England
County: Devonshire
Civil Parish: Exeter
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Sidwell
Sub-District: Exeter
Registration District: Exeter
Residence Note:
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Occupation: STEAM ENGINE FITTER
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Birthplace: Exeter, Devonshire
Schedule Type: 32
Page Number: 3


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William E Brown Head M 24 Exeter, Devonshire
Alice Brown Wife F 24 Exeter, Devonshire



Rose

RockyMountainShy

RockyMountainShy Report 28 Sep 2018 00:30

My Great Aunt Alice was 33 when she, and William, came over to Canada in June 1911 on the ship ‘Royal George’ and she was never heard of again (by me anyway :-D). My question is what happened to her?? Actually I just fibbed I do know they were living in Toronto in 1921 and again in 1947. Did they have children, when did they die?
Facts:
Alice Ball born 1877 Exeter
William Edwin Brown born 1877 Exeter
Alice married William – Dec 1898 in Exeter, Devon