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26 Sep 2018 09:42 |
Benjamin Ransby born 1807/8 married Rebecca Hellby in 13/10/ 1834 in Essex he was transported for 7 years in 1837 for Stealing Cloth,it also states his dad was also transported who was Daniel I think.
Benjamin Ransby died Australia 1875 mum Ann
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26 Sep 2018 00:37 |
Am thinking that the Henry who married Rebecca in 1847 was a Henry Anthony, appearing at marriage and 1841 census as Henry and 1851 (not posted, but Lampril on FMP) and 1861 as Anthony.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Queen Street, Southminster Essex, Maldon, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Anthony Lamprell Head Married Male 70 1791 Agricultural Labourer Essex, England Rebecca Lamprell Wife Married Female 46 1815 - Essex, England Eliza Lamprell Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 - Essex, England Henry Lamprell Son - Male 21 1840 Agricultural Labourer Essex, England Obadiah Halstead Lodger - Male 18 1843 Agricultural Labourer Essex, England
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26 Sep 2018 00:30 |
Susan Ransby England Births and Christenings Name Susan Ransby Gender Female Christening Date 16 Jun 1837 Christening Date (Original) 16 JUN 1837 Christening Place SOUTHMINSTER,ESSEX,ENGLAND Father's Name Benjamin Ransby Mother's Name Rebecca
Possible death Q1 1838 Maldon RD - on freebmd but not GRO index (reported)
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26 Sep 2018 00:25 |
sorry, it's too late to compute this one but I'll throw it in for now - and i know it's not helping to find Kate.
Despite the 1868 marriage showing as only Henry Ransby, the marriage of his daughter Rosina say that his name was Henry Anthony. Census show him to be born in South Minster, Essex
I can't get away from this one - is Rebecca the Mother here? Henry has a daughter Rebecca and a son Henry Anthony
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census West Street, Southminster, Maldon, Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Henry Lamprel Male 40 1801 Essex, England Rebecca Ransby Female 25 1816 Essex, England Ann Ransby Female 6 1835 Essex, England Henry Ransby Male 2 1839 Essex, England Elizabeth Ransby Female 0 1841 Essex, England
----------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: LAMPRELL, HENRY ANTONY LAMPRELL KING Order GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in MALDON Volume 12 Page 153
------------------- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1847 (>99%) Lamprell Anthony Maldon 12 209 RANSBY Rebecca Maldon 12 209
----------------------- and was Rebecca Ransby born as King
Name Ann Ransby Gender Female Christening Date 12 Jul 1835 Christening Date (Original) 12 JUL 1835 Christening Place SOUTHMINSTER,ESSEX,ENGLAND Father's Name Benjamin Ransby Mother's Name Rebecca
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alviegal
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25 Sep 2018 20:07 |
Rosina.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
15, Crossfield Lane, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London & Kent, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles J Nixon Head Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayers Labourer Deptford, England Rose Nixon Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Deptford, England Charles J Nixon Son - Male 1 1900 - Deptford, England
1911 Census For England & Wales
32 Heston St Deptford S E, St Paul Deptford, London & Kent, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Nixon Head Married Male 32 1879 Carman General Deptford Rose Nixon Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Deptford Charles Nixon Son - Male 11 1900 School Deptford Olive Nixon Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Deptford Rosie Nixon Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Deptford William Nixon Son - Male 0 1911 - Deptford George Stone Head Married Male 33 1878 Carman Deptford Nellie Stone Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Deptford George Stone Son - Male 11 1900 School Deptford Nellie Stone Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Deptford Polly Stone Daughter - Female 9 1902 School Deptford Hannah Stone Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Deptford
1939 Register Transcription
Nixon Household (2 People) 9 Foreman House , Deptford, London, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Rosina Nixon 11 Dec 1876 Female Unpaid Dom Duties Married 81 2 Charles J Nixon 19 Jul 1877 Male General Labourer Married 81 1
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Mary
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25 Sep 2018 13:22 |
It is on the marriage record on Ancestry.co.uk, unfortunately it won't let me copy and paste.
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Toni
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25 Sep 2018 12:27 |
Mary....Thank you so much...how did you find dad's name without ordering the marriage cert? This is our girl...sadly no sign of kate living with her :-(
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25 Sep 2018 10:27 |
Rose Ransby age 23 married 8/7/1899 dad Henry Anthony Ransby dead to Charles James Nixon 22 Witness Amelia Eliza Barlow and James Robert Johnston
1911 32,Heston St Deptford Charles James Nixon married 12 years 5 children one died(Elizabeth Amelia Nixon born 1901 died 1901) Rose
Rosina Nixon born about 1877 died in Greenwich Sept 1947 V5c P464.
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24 Sep 2018 22:15 |
Malyon. .thinking that marraige looks good.
Greyghost. .Henry and emma have the same death registration number in the same quarter of the same year. I had also summised rebecca death was wrongly registered as rainsbury. Which after william, leaves us with just rosina unaccounted for. There is a possibility kate was living with her in 1911, but I can find neither on the 1911 census Rosina may have married...I need to do a bit more research on this.
Mary..It is looking like amelia went on to married Mr laws. ..again I am pretty sure she was still legally married to william at this point.
Thank you all for your help. We may not be any closer to the answers, but it has highlighted some gaps in my research. We may get there yet.
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24 Sep 2018 19:08 |
So she did marry 1919 to John laws ?
Amelia Eliza Ransby baptised 2/9/1885 birth 15/2/1869 same as on 1939 register.
Deaths? Amelia E laws born about 1869 died 12 1949 in Rugby Warwickshire V69 P 1728 Same month as Amelia? John laws born about 1870 died Dec 1940 in Rugby V69 P 1755
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24 Sep 2018 18:11 |
Henry Ransby England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005 Name: Henry Ransby Event Type: Marriage Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration Year: 1868 Registration District: Rotherhithe County: London Event Place: Rotherhithe, London, England Volume: 1D Page: 896 Line Number: 7
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malyon
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24 Sep 2018 18:09 |
census for henry ransby 1881
Henry Ransby England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Henry Ransby Event Type: Census Event Date: 1881 Event Place: St Nicholas Deptford, London,Kent, England Registration District: Greenwich Residence Note: Stowage Gender: Male Age: 41 Marital Status (Original): Married Occupation: Labr Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1840 Birthplace: Munster Louth, England Page Number: 29 Registration Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 717/88 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Henry Ransby Head Male 41 Munster Louth, England Amelia Ransby Wife Female 41 Deptford, Kent, England Eliza Ransby Daughter Female 12 Deptford, Kent, England Rosina Ransby Daughter Female 5 Deptford, Kent, England Wm Ransby Son Male 1 Deptford, Kent, England
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24 Sep 2018 17:22 |
England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 (freebmd has surname Ransey - original scan shows Ransby - correction sent)
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%) Lewis Mary Agnes Rotherhithe 1d 896 Ransey Henry Rotherhithe 1d 896 <<<<<<<< Wyatt Amelia Rotherhithe 1d 896 <<<<<<<<
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
RANSBY, ELIZA AMELIA WYATT Order GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 768 Order
RANSBY, HENRY ANTONY WYATT Order GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 726
RANSBY, EMMA WYATT Order GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 807 Order RANSBY, REBECCA WYATT Order GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 825
RANSBY, ROSINA WYATT Order GRO Reference: 1876 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 884 Order
RANSBY, WILLIAM FREDERICK WYATT Order GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 980
-------------------- Name: Age at Death (in years): Order: RANSBY, HENRY ANTHONY 1 Order GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 465
Deaths Sep 1874 (>99%) Rainsbury Rebecca 1 Greenwich 1d 460
Is this Rebecca's death, not seeing a birth to match, but hearing an accent - Ransby to Rainsbury
Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%) Ransby William Frederick 2 Greenwich 1d 695
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malyon
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24 Sep 2018 15:56 |
this is the only kate e barlow born 1895
Births Mar 1895 (>99%) Barlow Kate Ellen Nottingham 7b 426
Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%) Barlow Kate E Larkin St Martin 1a 1101
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Toni
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24 Sep 2018 15:46 |
William was an only child. He had a stepbrother George born 1884 and a stepsister Hannah born 1877. Amelia/Eliza had 5 brothers and sisters that I can trace. Only one other survived to 1901 and that was rosina born 1876 Greenwich.
Williams parents were Robert John Barlow and Mary Jones. Robert is on the 1911 census with his new wife and her children (williams step siblings) mary died shortly after william was born. Amelia parents were Henry ransby and Amelia Wyatt. Both were dead by 1911.
It is possible late was living with rosina in 1911. But I can't find a listing for rosina or a marriage.
Hope this helps with some background.
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alviegal
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24 Sep 2018 14:12 |
Possible 1939 for the marriage that greyghost posted. I understand you are looking for Kate, Toni, but we like to look at all family members to see if anything shows up. So far, I can find nothing for her.
82a Poplar High Street , Poplar, London, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Eliza A Laws 15 Feb 1869 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 10 2 John Laws 29 Oct 1870 Male Wharf Labourer (Retired) Married 10 1
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23 Sep 2018 21:00 |
Thank you everyone - I know that William - my great grandfather - shows on the 1911 census with another lady and in 1914 marries my great grandmother. He was probably still legally married to Amelia at this point. I also know there is a possible marriage for Amelia in 1919.
My problem lies with tracing Kate. She is not on the 1911 census. There is a possible listing for Amelia (often listed as Eliza) on the 1911 in an asylum, but no sign of Kate.
I cannot find ANY birth or death records for Kate.
Its a bit of a brick wall
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Mary
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23 Sep 2018 19:25 |
William remarried 1914 to Daisy Margaret Bullen born 1892 according to tree on Ancestry they had 7 children and in 1939 he was a watchmaker. William died 1952
They also say Amelia Eliza died Heywood lancs 1959
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23 Sep 2018 19:22 |
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William Edward Barlow, 37. pedlar, of 35, Plevnastreet. Poplar, and Frederick Charles Hodges, 20, labourer, of 8, Chari es-terraco, Mill wall, were cuarged, on remand, beloro Mr. Baggallay, with stealing marble clock, silver cream jug, silver 20 September 1904 - London Evening Standard - London, London, England
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23 Sep 2018 19:19 |
There is also this marriage - Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1919 (>99%) Barlow Amelia E Laws Poplar 1c 626 <<<<<<<<< Laws John Barlow Poplar 1c 626 <<<<<<<<< Little Eleanor F Petersen Poplar 1c 626 Petersen Harold Little Poplar 1c 626
<<<<<<< shown on a n other website to be the couple
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