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Hi I was wondering if some one could help me again please.Going back to Jessie Ann Ashbrook 1884-1946.married to John William Farr 1886-1942.I know that on 1901 census as living with family Faulkner as a servant.Jessie half sister was Sarah Ann Ashbrook 1872. Sarah Ann Ashbrook was married to Abel Gresty born 1870. One of there children was Annie Gresty 1895-1974.Found them living at Stretton Hall. On 1911 census there was a William Faulkner son of Alfred Faulkner living at Moss Wood Hall part of Stretton Hall,with his two sisters Bertha and Elizabeth Faulkner who married John Hough Darbyshire. Alfred Faulkner was married to Mary Ann Sankey. her father was Isaac Sankey who died 1889 aged 78.trying to get the conection with Jessie and the Faulkner family. Jessie grand parents were Richard Ashbrook and Ann Faulkner.were do the other Faulkners fit in thanks hope some one can help

Thank you for looking Kucinta

The only Benjamin Faulkner I can find in Kelsall is this one, but Ann is not living with the family:

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Brook Spout, Kelsall, Great Boughton, Cheshire, England

Benjamin Faulkner Head Married Male 37 1814 Ag Labourer Hargrave, Cheshire, England
Margaret Faulkner Wife Married Female 41 1810 Ag Labourer's Wife Tarvin, Cheshire, England
Thomas Faulkner Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Kelsall, Cheshire, England
James Faulkner Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Kelsall, Cheshire, England
Charles Faulkner Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Kelsall, Cheshire, England
Enoch Faulkner Son - Male 6 1845 - Kelsall, Cheshire, England

Benjamin is born Hargrave, Cheshire.

I'm not seeing any immediate connection between the two Faulkner families.

The head of the Faulkner family in census 1901 was Henry:


Henry Faulkner Head Married Male 39 1862 Farmer Kingsley, Cheshire, England

In 1871 with his parents:

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Wigans Lake, Kingsley, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Henery Faulkner Head - Male 55 1816 - Derbyshire, England
Hannah Faulkner Wife - Female 51 1820 - Cheshire, England
Abraham Faulkner Son - Male 27 1844 - Cheshire, England
Hannah Faulkner Daughter - Female 17 1854 - Cheshire, England
Martha Faulkner Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Cheshire, England
Henery Faulkner Son - Male 9 1862 - Cheshire, England

On the image Henry sr's birth place looks like Sudbury Derbyshire, but in the cnesus for 1861, it looks like Somershall Derbyshire.

This looks likely to be his baptism, with parents John and Hannah:

First name(s) Henry
Last name Falkner
Baptism year 1815
Baptism date 17 Sep 1815
Place Sudbury, All Saints<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Parents John & Hannah
Father's occupation Wheelwright
Residence Hill Somersall<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
County Derbyshire
Country England
Notes
Record set Derbyshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

I can find 3 other children for John and Hannah, namely Ann c1813, Samuel c1819 and Joseph c1821, who would be too young to be the parents of Ann Faulkner's father Benjamin.

Your Richard, Ann and George in 1861 for Ann's birthplace which on the image of the register is dittoed Kelsall:

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Kelsall, Great Boughton, Cheshire, England

Ann Ashbrook Wife Married Female 27 1834 Farm Labourer Wife -
George Ashbrook Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 Scholar -
Mary Ashbrook Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 Scholar -
William Ashbrook Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 Scholar -
Margaret Ashbrook Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1858 Scholar -
Thomas Ashbrook Son - Male 0 1861

Richard and Ann's marriage register shows her father to be a Benjamin Faulkner, a labourer.

First name(s) Richard
Last name Ashbrook
Age 24y
Marriage year 1852
Marriage date 11 Apr 1852
Marriage place Chester
Parish St. John the Baptist
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Faulkner
Spouse's age 20y
Bride's father's name Benjamin Faulkner
City or town Chester
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 3 p 192
Record set Cheshire Diocese of Chester parish marriages 1538-1910
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Hi its me again sorry to be a pain.on the 1901 census it says that Jessie Ann Ashbrook born 1884 and a servant wasliving with a family called Faulkners.in my tree I have Richard Ashbrook born 1830 married to Ann Faulkner.parents of George Ashbrook born 1854.George was the father of Jessie Ann Ashbrook.i don't have any other Faulkners in my tree and was wondering with Jessie living with the Faulkners were they related thanks.

Happy to help.

Thank you Kucinta for your help you r a star

Death:

Name: Jessie A Farr
Death Age: 61
Birth Date: abt 1885
Registration Date: Mar 1946
Registration district: Northwich
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 484

Probate:

Name: Jessie Ann Farr
Death Date: 21 Mar 1946
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Probate Date: 22 May 1946
Registry: Chester, England

Farr, Jessie Ann of 21 Gladstone st Northwich Cheshire widow died 21th march 1946 Administration Chester 22nd May to John William Farr Boilermaker. Effects £273 2s 10d.

John William Farr looks like Jessie and John's elder son born 1914 acc to the 1939 register entry I posted.

Births Jun 1914
FARR John W Ashbrook Northwich 8a 448

Births Jun 1917
Farr Edward Ashbrook Northwich 8a 342

Death of Jessie's husband:

Deaths Dec 1942
Farr John W 56 Northwich 8a 329

Marriages Jun 1913

Ashbrook Jessie A Farr Runcorn 8a 465
Farr John W Ashbrook Runcorn 8a 465

In the 1939 register

Farr Household (5 People) 21 Gladstone Street , Northwich U.D., Cheshire,

****Jessie Ann Farr 11 Jun 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 25 2
**John Win Farr 11 Jan 1886 Male Unemployed (General Labourer Seeking Work) Married 25 1
**John Win Farr 17 Mar 1914 Male Rivetter Shipbuilding Worker Single 25 3
Edward Farr 15 Mar 1917 Male General Labourer Single 25 4
Harry Winnington 03 Aug 1893 Male Heavy (Chemical Works) Single 25 5

EDIT: ** On image of register, both are John Wm Farr, not John Win Farr.

Jessie in 1901 working as a servant:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Newton, Newton by Frodsham, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Henry Faulkner Head Married Male 39 1862 Farmer Kingsley, Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Faulkner Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Flintshire, Wales
Henry Faulkner Son Single Male 13 1888 - Kingsley, Cheshire, England
Hilda Faulkner Daughter Single Female 11 1890 - Kingsley, Cheshire, England
Annie Faulkner Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Kingsley, Cheshire, England
John Faulkner Son Single Male 8 1893 - Kingsley, Cheshire, England
Alice Faulkner Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Kingsley, Cheshire, England
Albert Faulkner Son Single Male 5 1896 - Newton, Cheshire, England
Hannah Faulkner Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Newton, Cheshire, England
***********Jessie Ashbrook Servant Single Female 17 1884 General Servant (Domestic) Gorstage, Cheshire, England
Frederick Parker Servant Single Male 23 1878 Teams Man On Farm Kingsley, Cheshire, England
Charles W Hulse Servant Single Male 17 1884 Herdsman On Farm Overton, Cheshire, England

and also in 1911:

1911 Census For England & Wales

127 King Street Knutsford, Knutsford, Cheshire, England

Eleanora Lucy Cutter Head Widow Female 55 1856 - Capesthorne Cheshire
Aubrey Claxton Cutter Son Single Male 35 1876 Life Assurance Inspector Of Agencies Knutsford Cheshire
Alfred Christopher Cutter Son Single Male 28 1883 Solicitor Knutsford Cheshire
Nora Cutter Daughter Single Female 25 1886 - Knutsford Cheshire
Geoffrey Roland Cutter Son Single Male 19 1892 Clerk In Life Assurance Office Knutsford Cheshire
**********Jessie Ann Ashbrook Servant Single Female 26 1885 General Servant Domestic Gorstage Nr Northwich Cheshire

I have been unable to find Jessica's birth on freebmd or GRO - Maybe I'm just having a bad day?

EDIT: Oops, found her.

Name: Jessie Ann Ashbrook
Registration Year: 1884
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Northwich
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 238

ASHBROOK, JESSIE ANN GREGORY
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 238

There is a Jessie A. with the family in 1891. The only baptism I can find for any of the children is one for Mary Jane.

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Snelsons Cottages, Chester Road, Oakmere, Northwich, Cheshire, England

George Ashbrook Head Married Male 38 1853 Agricultural Labourer Cheshire, England
Sarah Ashbrook Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Cheshire, England
Richard Ashbrook Son - Male 11 1880 Scholar Cheshire, England
Mary Jane Ashbrook Daughter - Female 10 1881 Scholar Cheshire, England
*****Jessie A Ashbrook Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Cheshire, England
Emma A Ashbrook Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Cheshire, England
John Ashbrook Son - Male 2 1889 - Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Ellen Ashbrook Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Cheshire, England

HI hank you for all your help.was wondering if you could help me again did George Groves born 1853 and Sarah Gregory have another child called Jessica ann Ashbrook born 1884 and married John Farr.thank you

how sad both dying and ellen

Alfred was baptised in Jan 1879 and died aged 2 weeks, Jesse baptised mid Sept 1879 and died aged 3 weeks, so definitely not twins. I suspect Jesse was at least a bit premature.

jessie and alfred were twins

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
Ashbrooke Alfred Northwich 8a 255 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1879 (>99%)
Ashbrooke Jesse Northwich 8a 255

Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
ASHBROOKE, ALFRED GROVES Order
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 255

not sure about them being twins different birth quarter's if alfred was born in january then ellen could have fell pregnant again and had jessie

Looks like Margaret and William were twins:

ASHBROOKE, MARGARET GROVES
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NORTHWICK Volume 08A Page 227

ASHBROOKE, WILLIAM GROVES
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in NORTHWICK Volume 08A Page 227

Not so Samuel and George, though they were baptised on the same day (31 Dec 1876)

ASHBROOKE, GEORGE GROVES
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 238


ASHBROOKE, SAMUEL GROVES
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in NORTHWICH Volume 08A Page 240

Baby Alfred died aged just two weeks - looks like baby Jesse was almost certainly premature:

First name(s) Alfred
Last name Ashbrook
Gender Male
Age 2 (weeks on image)
Birth year 1879
Death year -
Burial year 1879
Burial date 12 Jan 1879
Place Delamere
Residence Oakmere
County Cheshire
Country England

Judging by date of burial, Ellen probably did die as a result of childbirth, passing about 3 weeks before the death of baby Jesse, as Malyon says, so sad, so young.

First name(s) Ellen
Last name Ashbrooke
Gender Female
Age 26
Birth year 1853
Death year -
Burial year 1879
Burial date 14 Sep 1879
Place Delamere
Residence Oakmere
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 2 p 29
Record group Part 1 - 1
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Burials 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Parish Burials

Burial for Jesse - aged 3 weeks.

First name(s) Jesse
Last name Ashbrooke
Gender Unknown
Age 3
Birth year 1879
Death year -
Burial year 1879
Burial date 02 Oct 1879
Place Delamere
Residence Oakmere
County Cheshire
Country England
Reference item 2 p 29
Record group Part 1 - 1
Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Burials 1538-1911
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)

Age at death on image of register is 3 weeks.