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you said lillian had a son who died sydney george i cant see a birth for him in 1927
found a death

Her son John J married a Dorothy Garvey and died in Leigh in 1985

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Lilian-Irene-Kenyon/5389425

First name(s) Lilian Irene
Last name Kenyon
Gender Female
Birth day 22
Birth month 2
Birth year 1905
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1987
District Leigh
Register number 887
County Lancashire
Volume 39
Page 1887
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

could edward who died in 1902 be lililians grandfather her mother was not married when she was born so no fathers name what was lillian's mother's christian name

can you tell me when she died? or when her husband John died? Are you on Ancestry? I have been looking there for you and will continue to look if you like
Alison

Malyon, I find it strange too sure it will all come out in the end

seems strange that there is only one birth 1905 till 1961 in colchester and only one death 1902 till 1955 could they be related

Thank you all, my friend will be please that we are maybe getting somewhere, she says she would love to know about her mum before she dies herself!
As it was always a mystery

I have seen the name Davey on something today with a Lilian Irene, it may have been the 1911 census but i couldn't look at it fully as I don't have a subscription.
i will send for the birth cert and try and look at the 1911.

Thanks

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

2 Gray's Cottages East St Colchester Essex, Colchester, Essex, England

Lillian Irene Allen's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Harry Davey Head Single Male 58 1853 Hawker Pedlar Colchester Essex
Emily Davey Housekeeper Widow Female 50 1861 Housekeeper Muddiford Devon Marwood
Lillian Irene Allen Daughter - Female 6 1905 School Colchester Essex

emily davey should read emily allen

I am beginning to wonder if there was an army connection and they moved about .

The Lillian could of just said she had come to Lancashire in 1929 she may be wanting to cover her tracks being an unmarried mother.
thanks all

if this is lillian's birth then her mother was unmarried

ELLAM, LILIAN MAUD IRENE - Order
GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in COLCHESTER Volume 04A Page 832

Could this possibly be your Lilian Irene if Ellam was mistaken for Allen? She seems to be the daughter of Emily who is a housekeeper for Harry Davy. If he filled in the census form perhaps he didn't realize that her name was Ellam and not Allen?


Lilian Irene Allen
in the 1911 England Census
Name:
Lilian Irene Allen
Age in 1911:
6
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1905
Relation to Head:
Daughter
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
Colchester, Essex
Civil Parish:
Colchester

Address:
2 Grays Cottages, East Street, Colchester, Essex

Household Members:
Harry Davey 58
Emily Allen 50 , born Marwood, Devonshire
Lilian Irene Allen 6

there are no other births in colchester loads of births in lancasher

could this be a death of edward

Deaths Jun 1932 (>99%)
Ellam Edward 73 Linton 3b 522

colchester is a army town

maybe edward was in the army ????
and they moved abroad

could this be a relative of lillian


Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%)
Ellam Edward 49 Colchester 4a 357

Yes I do believe this is her birth, I will see about sending for the birth certificate. can't find her on the 1911 census or her father. i suppose that the name could be misspelled ?
thanks
Gail

this must be lillian


Lilian Maud I Ellam
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008

birth registration: 1905 Colchester, Essex, England