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Sylann
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7 Sep 2018 16:33 |
I have an Ann Hornby b 1824 Bracewell Yorkshire apparently she went over to New York 1831 & again in 1856 ? She married a William Milsted possibly about 1850 as their daughter was born 1852 Canada
Their is a passenger list but not sure which date it's for but if some one can look them up to see if they are right and who she travelled with if she did go in 1831 she would have been 7
I don't have world wide I have got the 1880 census she is a widow with 3 children with her
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malyon
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7 Sep 2018 16:51 |
Ann Hornby New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891 Name: Ann Hornby Event Type: Immigration Event Date: 1831 Event Place: New York City, New York, United States Gender: Female Age: 7 Birth Year (Estimated): 1824 Birthplace: England Ship Name: Isaac Hicks
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MargaretM
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7 Sep 2018 16:55 |
This looks like the possible marriage of their daughter Eleanor in 1884. She's 33 years old.
William Millstead in the Iowa, Marriage Records, 1880-1940 Name: William Millstead Gender: Male Spouse: Ann Hornby Child: Eleanor Wilstedt
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MargaretM
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7 Sep 2018 17:07 |
On that 1831 passenger list the family is: William Hornby, 30 Ellen, 28 Ann, 7 John, 5 Rebecca, 6 Ellen, 2
There's another Hornby family listed after them: (Can't make out first name) Hornby, 26 Ann, 28 Eliza, 3 Mary Ann, 2
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MargaretM
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7 Sep 2018 17:15 |
Do you have this?
Eleanor Milsted in the Web: Canada, Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, 1828-1910 Name: Eleanor Milsted Birth Date: 19 Dec 1851 Birth Place: Hamilton City Baptism Date: 4 Dec 1853 Baptism Place: Hamilton City, Gore Father: William Milsted Mother: Ann Residence: Hamilton City
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Sylann
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7 Sep 2018 17:26 |
Sorry I had the urge for chocolate
Right So Ann went out with her parents and siblings, Not found the other Hornby's yet but I've not done them all Big families No I hadn't got Eleanor As I've said I haven't got worldwide so what ever shows up on ancestry I can't access
Thank you for that I'll see if I can find the other Hornby
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Dea
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7 Sep 2018 18:07 |
FMP have worldwide access to all records for free this weekend (up until midnight on Monday!) - check it out!!
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Sylann
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7 Sep 2018 18:15 |
Right I'll do that but not keen on the site
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Dea
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7 Sep 2018 18:22 |
Hey !! - Don't knock it if it is free !!!!!!!!
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Sylann
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7 Sep 2018 18:45 |
I know I had 12 month sub but I didn't used it that much I find it awkward to use ? sooner have ancestry but it does take me ages to work things out Just been on it nothing is showing up for what I want
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malyon
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7 Sep 2018 19:38 |
family living in u s a
Eleonor Milsted United States Census, 1870 Name: Eleonor Milsted Event Type: Census Event Year: 1870 Event Place: Iowa, United States Gender: Female Age: 18 Race: White Race (Original): W Birth Year (Estimated): 1851-1852 Birthplace: Canada Page Number: 50 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ann Milsted Female 45 England Eleonor Milsted Female 18 Canada John Milsted Male 17 Canada Thomas Milsted Male 14 Iowa Anna Milsted Female 11 Iowa
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MargaretM
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7 Sep 2018 20:15 |
The family in 1860, Iowa:
Anna Milsted in the 1860 United States Federal Census Name: Anna Milsted Age: 1 Birth Year: abt 1859 Gender: Female Birth Place: Iowa Home in 1860: Davenport, Scott, Iowa
Household Members:
Wm Milsted 43 , born England Ann Milsted 35 , born " Ellenor Milsted 8 , born Canada John Milsted 6 . born " Thos G Milsted 3 , born Iowa Anna Milsted 1 , born "
Next family: John Hornby, 35, born England Elizabeth, 26, born " George H., 1, born Iowa
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Sylann
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8 Sep 2018 09:59 |
Thank you for that it's got me curious about the John ,Elizabeth & George next door? I've got loads of John Hornby's in my tree I'll check the dates
I was going to ask if their is any sign of the Hornby's that were on the same ship? or any chance of trying to see what the guy's name is or looks like
Thank you it's appreciated the work you do
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2018 10:47 |
John & Elizabeth's son George -
George H. Hornby in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: George H. Hornby Birth Date: 21 Aug 1858 Birth Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America Death Date: 11 Nov 1918 Death Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America Cemetery: Oakdale Memorial Gardens Burial or Cremation Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America Has Bio?: Y Father: John Hornby Mother: Elizabeth Hornby Spouse: Helen Hornby Children: George Edward Hornby Harvey B. Hornby
George Hornbye in the 1870 United States Federal Census Name: George Hornbye [George Hornby] Age in 1870: 12 Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: Iowa Dwelling Number: 443 Home in 1870: Davenport, Scott, Iowa Race: White Gender: Male Father of Foreign Birth: Y Mother of Foreign Birth: Y Household Members: Name Age John Hornbye 47 - architect Allioe Hornbye 40 (Alice - a second wife for John ???) Harry Hornbye 17 William Hornbye 16 - England Louise Hornbye 15 - England Mary Hornbye 14 - England Nelly Hornbye 12 - England George Hornbye 12 - Iowa Tillie Hornbye 10 - England Lizzy Hornbye 8 - England Harry Hornbye 4 - Iowa Thomas Hornbye 2 - Iowa Benjamin Hornbye 1 - Iowa
>>> EDIT: some of the children in 1870 may be step-children.
George H Hornby in the 1900 United States Federal Census Name: George H Hornby Age: 41 Birth Date: Aug 1858 Birthplace: Iowa Home in 1900: Valentine, Cherry, Nebraska Street: Main Street Sheet Number: 5 Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 106 Family Number: 109 Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Helen Hornby Marriage Year: 1886 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: Merchant Lumber Hardware Months not employed: 0 Can Read: Yes Can Write: Yes Can Speak English: Yes House Owned or Rented: O Home Free or Mortgaged: F Farm or House: H Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age George H Hornby 41 Helen Hornby 39 George H Hornby 11 - son, Nebraska Harvey V Hornby 9 - son, Nebraska Helen L Hornby 2 - daughter, Nebraska
George Henry Hornby in the Iowa, Marriage Records, 1880-1940 Name: George Henry Hornby Gender: Male Race: White Age: 29 Birth Year: abt 1858 Birth Place: Davenport, Iowa Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1887 Marriage Place: Scott, Iowa, USA Father: John Hornby Mother: Elizabeth Hornby Spouse: Helen Ahrens
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2018 11:20 |
Death of John's first wife Elizabeth;
Elizabeth Hornby in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Elizabeth Hornby Maiden Name: Crimp Birth Date: 4 Oct 1833 Birth Place: England Death Date: 11 Feb 1867 Death Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America Cemetery: Oakdale Memorial Gardens Burial or Cremation Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America Has Bio?: Y
Per Findagrave:
Daughter of Thomas Crimp and Lydia M. Coate
Children: ? George Harvey Hornby 1858–1918 ? Henry Crook "Harry" Hornby 1866–1952 ? Thomas C. Hornby 1867–1944
Elizabeth Crimp in the Iowa, Select Marriages Index, 1758-1996 Name: Elizabeth Crimp Gender: Female Marriage Date: 16 Feb 1857 Marriage Place: Scott, IA Spouse: John Hornby FHL Film Number: 1004413 Reference ID: 2:39WGZTL
ADDED - Looks like the second wife Alice was a sister of the first wife Elizabeth:
Benjamine H. Hornby in the Idaho, Death Records, 1890-1967 Name: Benjamine H. Hornby Birth Date: 28 Feb 1868 Birth Place: Iowa Death Date: 9 Apr 1947 Death Place: Sandpoint, Bonner, Idaho, USA Father: John Hornby Mother: Alice Crimp <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< birthplace Wales Certificate Number: 153063
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2018 11:52 |
Alice's first marriage:
Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%) Crimp Alice Swansea 11a 708 Norton John Swansea 11a 708
Alice Norton in the 1861 Wales Census Name: Alice Norton Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Norton Gender: Female Where born: Brighton, Surrey, England Civil Parish or Township: Swansea Town: Swansea County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: View image Registration district: Swansea Sub-registration district: Swansea ED, institution, or vessel: 12g Household schedule number: 256 Neighbors: Piece: 4103 Folio: 103 Page Number: 45 Household Members: Name Age John Norton 37 Alice Norton 30 Elizth Green Norton 12 Henry Harvey Norton 8 <<<<<<<Harry in 1870 Willm John Norton 7 <<<<<<<<<<<William in 1870 Louisa Harvey Norton 5 <<<<<<<<<< Louise in 1870 Mary Alice Norton 4 <<<<<<<<< Mary in 1870 Ellen Harvey Norton 2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nellie in 1870 Matilda Green Norton 1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Tillie in 1870
Sorry - I'm getting off track!
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Sylann
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8 Sep 2018 12:03 |
Thank you for all that it will keep me going for a while their is some one on ancestry that has the Hornby/ Norton connection but I found that one wasn't mine but I'll give this one a go Is their any sign of the Hornby Family that cam over on the same boat in 1831 ……..Hornby 26, Ann Hornby 28, Eliza 3, and Mary Ann 2
I apologise if I don't get back until tomorrow My husband was 70 yesterday so we're having a bit of a get together later
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2018 15:16 |
Re 1831 -
William Hornby and the father of the other Hornby family were both husbandmen, and both were going to New York. The passenger list is not in alphabetical order, so the fact that the two families are listed one after the other implies they were travelling together as one group.
But sorry - can't see them after that, so far.
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ArgyllGran
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8 Sep 2018 18:22 |
The other father's first name is something very short, or an abbreviation. It looks as if it could be Wm - but that's unlikely if the two Hornby husbands were brothers. However, Wm is the only first name abbreviation used in the document. They might not be brothers, but some other relation.
There's this woman (thinking about the wife Ann, born c1803);
Ann Hornby in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946 Name: Ann Hornby (widow) Gender: Female Age: 85 Religion: Methodist Birth Date: abt 1804 Birth Place: England Death Date: 19 Feb 1889 Death Place: Peel, Ontario, Canada Cause of Death: Tucompency [ Incompetency a year or two ]
This is her in 1881:
Ann Hornby in the 1881 Census of Canada Name: Ann Hornby Gender: Female Marital Status: Widowed Age: 77 Birth Year: 1804 Birthplace: England Religion: Wesleyan Methodist Nationality: English Province: Ontario District Number: 140 District: Peel Sub-District Number: A Subdistrict: Toronto Division: 5 Household Members: Name Age Ann Hornby 77 Minnie H. Wilson 21
Ann Hornby in the 1871 Census of Canada Name: Ann Hornby Gender: Female Age: 66 Birth Year: abt 1805 Birth Place: England Marital Status: Widowed Religion: Weslyan Methodist Origin: English Province: Ontario District: Peel District Number: 39 Division: 05 Subdistrict: Toronto Subdistrict Number: a Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Ann Hornby 66 Minnie Truemen 11
Minnie might be short for Mary Ann.
William Hornby in the 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia Name: William Hornby Gender: Male Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806 Birthplace: England Province: Canada West (Ontario) District: Peel County District Number: 28 Sub-District: Toronto Sub-District Number: 271 Household Members: Name Age William Hornby 46 - farmer, Quaker
Also listed with him, but not transcribed on Ancestry, are: Ann Hornby, 48, born England, Wesleyan Methodist; Mary A Hornby, 23, England, Wesleyan Methodist.
Also, a couple of lines further on - not sure if same household or not), a John Truman, carpenter & joiner, 25, England, Wesleyan Methodist.
A tree on Ancestry has a photo of the gravestone of John Trueman and his wife Mary Ann Hornby (Oct 11 1829 - Dec 10 1907) - also their daughter Eliza and son Fred.
The tree also lists a sister of Mary Ann - ( Annie 1823 England, death unknown )- but gives no proof of her existence. Apart from that, the tree is well researched, with lots of records as proof of most other events.
It says William died 1860 Ontario - no proof of that, but obviously Ann is a widow by 1861.
I wonder if this could be the family who went to NY in 1831 - if the child Eliza aged 3 died.
Just a long shot .
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Sylann
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9 Sep 2018 07:51 |
Thank You so much
I'll have a look at that tree on ancestry My Hornby's come from Yorkshire and some were farmers. They had large families and married more than once so it's a bit difficult sorting them out earlier than the 1841 census, I rely on the net and try to make sure things are right.
It's like Elizabeth and Alice Crimp Both married to John Hornby above they could be sisters but they seem to have different parents according to their grave stones But I think the info that goes with the grave stones is what people had added from their tree but it needs looking into
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