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Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2018 16:33

I have an Ann Hornby b 1824 Bracewell Yorkshire apparently she went over to New York 1831 & again in 1856 ?
She married a William Milsted possibly about 1850 as their daughter was born 1852 Canada

Their is a passenger list but not sure which date it's for but if some one can look them up to see if they are right and who she travelled with if she did go in 1831 she would have been 7

I don't have world wide I have got the 1880 census she is a widow with 3 children with her

Thank you

malyon

malyon Report 7 Sep 2018 16:51

Ann Hornby
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891
Name: Ann Hornby
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1831
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Birth Year (Estimated): 1824
Birthplace: England
Ship Name: Isaac Hicks

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Sep 2018 16:55

This looks like the possible marriage of their daughter Eleanor in 1884. She's 33 years old.


William Millstead
in the Iowa, Marriage Records, 1880-1940
Name:
William Millstead
Gender:
Male
Spouse:
Ann Hornby
Child:
Eleanor Wilstedt

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Sep 2018 17:07

On that 1831 passenger list the family is:
William Hornby, 30
Ellen, 28
Ann, 7
John, 5
Rebecca, 6
Ellen, 2

There's another Hornby family listed after them:
(Can't make out first name) Hornby, 26
Ann, 28
Eliza, 3
Mary Ann, 2

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Sep 2018 17:15

Do you have this?


Eleanor Milsted
in the Web: Canada, Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register, 1828-1910
Name:
Eleanor Milsted
Birth Date:
19 Dec 1851
Birth Place:
Hamilton City
Baptism Date:
4 Dec 1853
Baptism Place:
Hamilton City, Gore
Father:
William Milsted
Mother:
Ann
Residence:
Hamilton City

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2018 17:26

Sorry I had the urge for chocolate

Right So Ann went out with her parents and siblings,
Not found the other Hornby's yet but I've not done them all
Big families
No I hadn't got Eleanor As I've said I haven't got worldwide so what ever shows up on ancestry I can't access


Thank you for that I'll see if I can find the other Hornby

Dea

Dea Report 7 Sep 2018 18:07

FMP have worldwide access to all records for free this weekend (up until midnight on Monday!) - check it out!!

Dea x

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2018 18:15

Right I'll do that but not keen on the site

Dea

Dea Report 7 Sep 2018 18:22

Hey !! - Don't knock it if it is free !!!!!!!!

Dea x

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2018 18:45

I know I had 12 month sub but I didn't used it that much I find it awkward to use ? sooner have ancestry but it does take me ages to work things out Just been on it nothing is showing up for what I want

malyon

malyon Report 7 Sep 2018 19:38

family living in u s a

Eleonor Milsted
United States Census, 1870
Name: Eleonor Milsted
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1870
Event Place: Iowa, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Birth Year (Estimated): 1851-1852
Birthplace: Canada
Page Number: 50
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Ann Milsted Female 45 England
Eleonor Milsted Female 18 Canada
John Milsted Male 17 Canada
Thomas Milsted Male 14 Iowa
Anna Milsted Female 11 Iowa

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 7 Sep 2018 20:15

The family in 1860, Iowa:


Anna Milsted
in the 1860 United States Federal Census
Name:
Anna Milsted
Age:
1
Birth Year:
abt 1859
Gender:
Female
Birth Place:
Iowa
Home in 1860:
Davenport, Scott, Iowa

Household Members:

Wm Milsted 43 , born England
Ann Milsted 35 , born "
Ellenor Milsted 8 , born Canada
John Milsted 6 . born "
Thos G Milsted 3 , born Iowa
Anna Milsted 1 , born "

Next family:
John Hornby, 35, born England
Elizabeth, 26, born "
George H., 1, born Iowa

Sylann

Sylann Report 8 Sep 2018 09:59

Thank you for that it's got me curious about the John ,Elizabeth & George next door?
I've got loads of John Hornby's in my tree I'll check the dates

I was going to ask if their is any sign of the Hornby's that were on the same ship?
or any chance of trying to see what the guy's name is or looks like

Thank you it's appreciated the work you do

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2018 10:47

John & Elizabeth's son George -

George H. Hornby
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: George H. Hornby
Birth Date: 21 Aug 1858
Birth Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America
Death Date: 11 Nov 1918
Death Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America
Cemetery: Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Burial or Cremation Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Father: John Hornby
Mother: Elizabeth Hornby
Spouse: Helen Hornby
Children: George Edward Hornby
Harvey B. Hornby



George Hornbye
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: George Hornbye
[George Hornby]
Age in 1870: 12
Birth Year: abt 1858
Birthplace: Iowa
Dwelling Number: 443
Home in 1870: Davenport, Scott, Iowa
Race: White
Gender: Male
Father of Foreign Birth: Y
Mother of Foreign Birth: Y
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hornbye 47 - architect
Allioe Hornbye 40 (Alice - a second wife for John ???)
Harry Hornbye 17
William Hornbye 16 - England
Louise Hornbye 15 - England
Mary Hornbye 14 - England
Nelly Hornbye 12 - England
George Hornbye 12 - Iowa
Tillie Hornbye 10 - England
Lizzy Hornbye 8 - England
Harry Hornbye 4 - Iowa
Thomas Hornbye 2 - Iowa
Benjamin Hornbye 1 - Iowa


>>> EDIT:
some of the children in 1870 may be step-children.



George H Hornby
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: George H Hornby
Age: 41
Birth Date: Aug 1858
Birthplace: Iowa
Home in 1900: Valentine, Cherry, Nebraska
Street: Main Street
Sheet Number: 5
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 106
Family Number: 109
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Helen Hornby
Marriage Year: 1886
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Merchant Lumber Hardware
Months not employed: 0
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
House Owned or Rented: O
Home Free or Mortgaged: F
Farm or House: H
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
George H Hornby 41
Helen Hornby 39
George H Hornby 11 - son, Nebraska
Harvey V Hornby 9 - son, Nebraska
Helen L Hornby 2 - daughter, Nebraska


George Henry Hornby
in the Iowa, Marriage Records, 1880-1940
Name: George Henry Hornby
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 29
Birth Year: abt 1858
Birth Place: Davenport, Iowa
Marriage Date: 19 Jul 1887
Marriage Place: Scott, Iowa, USA
Father: John Hornby
Mother: Elizabeth Hornby
Spouse: Helen Ahrens

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2018 11:20

Death of John's first wife Elizabeth;

Elizabeth Hornby
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Elizabeth Hornby
Maiden Name: Crimp
Birth Date: 4 Oct 1833
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 11 Feb 1867
Death Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America
Cemetery: Oakdale Memorial Gardens
Burial or Cremation Place: Davenport, Scott County, Iowa, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y

Per Findagrave:

Daughter of Thomas Crimp and Lydia M. Coate

Children:
? George Harvey Hornby 1858–1918
? Henry Crook "Harry" Hornby 1866–1952
? Thomas C. Hornby 1867–1944



Elizabeth Crimp
in the Iowa, Select Marriages Index, 1758-1996
Name: Elizabeth Crimp
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 16 Feb 1857
Marriage Place: Scott, IA
Spouse: John Hornby
FHL Film Number: 1004413
Reference ID: 2:39WGZTL


ADDED -
Looks like the second wife Alice was a sister of the first wife Elizabeth:

Benjamine H. Hornby
in the Idaho, Death Records, 1890-1967
Name: Benjamine H. Hornby
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1868
Birth Place: Iowa
Death Date: 9 Apr 1947
Death Place: Sandpoint, Bonner, Idaho, USA
Father: John Hornby
Mother: Alice Crimp <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< birthplace Wales
Certificate Number: 153063

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2018 11:52

Alice's first marriage:

Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
Crimp Alice Swansea 11a 708
Norton John Swansea 11a 708


Alice Norton
in the 1861 Wales Census
Name: Alice Norton
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Norton
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish or Township: Swansea
Town: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 12g
Household schedule number: 256
Neighbors:
Piece: 4103
Folio: 103
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
John Norton 37
Alice Norton 30
Elizth Green Norton 12
Henry Harvey Norton 8 <<<<<<<Harry in 1870
Willm John Norton 7 <<<<<<<<<<<William in 1870
Louisa Harvey Norton 5 <<<<<<<<<< Louise in 1870
Mary Alice Norton 4 <<<<<<<<< Mary in 1870
Ellen Harvey Norton 2 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nellie in 1870
Matilda Green Norton 1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Tillie in 1870



Sorry - I'm getting off track!

Sylann

Sylann Report 8 Sep 2018 12:03

Thank you for all that it will keep me going for a while their is some one on ancestry that has the Hornby/ Norton connection but I found that one wasn't mine but I'll give this one a go
Is their any sign of the Hornby Family that cam over on the same boat in 1831
……..Hornby 26, Ann Hornby 28, Eliza 3, and Mary Ann 2


I apologise if I don't get back until tomorrow My husband was 70 yesterday so we're having a bit of a get together later

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2018 15:16

Re 1831 -

William Hornby and the father of the other Hornby family were both husbandmen, and both were going to New York.
The passenger list is not in alphabetical order, so the fact that the two families are listed one after the other implies they were travelling together as one group.

But sorry - can't see them after that, so far.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Sep 2018 18:22

The other father's first name is something very short, or an abbreviation. It looks as if it could be Wm - but that's unlikely if the two Hornby husbands were brothers. However, Wm is the only first name abbreviation used in the document.
They might not be brothers, but some other relation.

There's this woman (thinking about the wife Ann, born c1803);

Ann Hornby
in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths and Deaths Overseas, 1869-1946
Name: Ann Hornby (widow)
Gender: Female
Age: 85
Religion: Methodist
Birth Date: abt 1804
Birth Place: England
Death Date: 19 Feb 1889
Death Place: Peel, Ontario, Canada
Cause of Death: Tucompency [ Incompetency a year or two ]


This is her in 1881:

Ann Hornby
in the 1881 Census of Canada
Name: Ann Hornby
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 77
Birth Year: 1804
Birthplace: England
Religion: Wesleyan Methodist
Nationality: English
Province: Ontario
District Number: 140
District: Peel
Sub-District Number: A
Subdistrict: Toronto
Division: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Hornby 77
Minnie H. Wilson 21


Ann Hornby
in the 1871 Census of Canada
Name: Ann Hornby
Gender: Female
Age: 66
Birth Year: abt 1805
Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Religion: Weslyan Methodist
Origin: English
Province: Ontario
District: Peel
District Number: 39
Division: 05
Subdistrict: Toronto
Subdistrict Number: a
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Hornby 66
Minnie Truemen 11


Minnie might be short for Mary Ann.


William Hornby
in the 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia
Name: William Hornby
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Birthplace: England
Province: Canada West (Ontario)
District: Peel County
District Number: 28
Sub-District: Toronto
Sub-District Number: 271
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hornby 46 - farmer, Quaker

Also listed with him, but not transcribed on Ancestry, are:
Ann Hornby, 48, born England, Wesleyan Methodist;
Mary A Hornby, 23, England, Wesleyan Methodist.

Also, a couple of lines further on - not sure if same household or not), a John Truman, carpenter & joiner, 25, England, Wesleyan Methodist.


A tree on Ancestry has a photo of the gravestone of John Trueman and his wife Mary Ann Hornby (Oct 11 1829 - Dec 10 1907) - also their daughter Eliza and son Fred.


The tree also lists a sister of Mary Ann - ( Annie 1823 England, death unknown )- but gives no proof of her existence. Apart from that, the tree is well researched, with lots of records as proof of most other events.

It says William died 1860 Ontario - no proof of that, but obviously Ann is a widow by 1861.

I wonder if this could be the family who went to NY in 1831 - if the child Eliza aged 3 died.

Just a long shot .

Sylann

Sylann Report 9 Sep 2018 07:51

Thank You so much

I'll have a look at that tree on ancestry My Hornby's come from Yorkshire and some were farmers. They had large families and married more than once so it's a bit difficult sorting them out earlier than the 1841 census, I rely on the net and try to make sure things are right.

It's like Elizabeth and Alice Crimp Both married to John Hornby above they could be sisters but they seem to have different parents according to their grave stones But I think the info that goes with the grave stones is what people had added from their tree but it needs looking into