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lancashireAnn
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30 Aug 2019 15:56 |
Just as a correction from the previous thread Nicola you stated that your grandfather was Frederick Frances RIcketts b 1910
There is an error on Freebmd
Births Mar 1910 (>99%) RICKETT Frederick Frances Holborn 1b 639
This should be Frederick John as per the original scan and the GRO record
I have submitted a correction and added a postem to Freebmd
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Nicola
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30 Aug 2019 19:45 |
I don't remember mentioning a birth of my grandmother in 1910 or the name Frederick Francis Ricketts? It must have been s long time ago before I had the certificates, it is certainly not relevant now. It is mentioned more than once that he was born in At Pancreas/ Camden. As for the birth dates for Henry and Frederick being the same day and month, I hadn't noticed, it is surely a extraordinary coincidence and a good one
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31 Aug 2019 13:54 |
this was from the post on your other thread Nicola from 3 years ago
my grand father was Frederick Frances Rickett born march 1910, Holborn as above in 1911 census. with parents George Rickett born 1877 and Mary Ann Clarke, married 1900 in Holborn.
So on that birth he is actually Frederick John - the middle name does seem to change a lot if I have read this thread correctly
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lancashireAnn
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31 Aug 2019 15:41 |
And that Frederick John appears to have died in 1912
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Chris Ho :)
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31 Aug 2019 18:25 |
If you mean below Death...(instead of 1952)
Deaths Sep 1951 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- RICKETTS Albert 74 Islington 5c 689
Burial Register summary
Ricketts Albert 11 July 1951 Location Islington
https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch
(Henrietta 1922 there also)
(credits bought on above, will show you the scan)
Chris :)
Edits (not sure if below relates, or has been mentioned anywhere in both 'Threads')
Births Sep 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------- RICKETT WILLIAM R CLARKE Holborn 1b 1142
Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- Rickett William R 0 Islington 1b 223
Birth RICKETT, FREDERICK JOHN CLARKE GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 639
Birth RICKETT, ALICE MAY CLARKE GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 650
RICKETTS, MARY ANN AMELIA CLARKE GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 696
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Nicola
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31 Aug 2019 21:24 |
Yes Chris ho, that is the death I think is my GT grandfather. I have had a long chat with my mum and she is convinced that her father Frederick Alfred Ricketts and Henry Alfred Ricketts that AustinQ found are the same person. I have searched and many of you with more experience have searched and found no overlap of these to men. I have ordered the death cert for Albert in 1951, Islington to see who registered the death in the hope it will go some way to confirm I am finally on the right track.
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lancashireAnn
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1 Sep 2019 19:16 |
Deaths Dec 1912
Rickett Frederick J 2 Holborn 1b 719
Was the death I was posting about
I think those 3 children were the children of George Rickett(s) and MARY Ann Clarke
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Sep 2019 19:26 |
He is also on below link (as mentioned before, purchasing credits will allow you to see a scan of Register)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/
Chris :)
Burial Register summary Rickett Frederick John Burial date 24 October 1912 Location Camden
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Nicola
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2 Sep 2019 01:05 |
Can anyone find Henry Alfred Ricketts siblings? Henrietta born 1900? Ivy Lydia born 1904 looks like her death in 1922 and Nellie married Sidney Fowler and had son Kenneth in 1934( only one I found but no marriage for him? and we know Albert William born 1915 died in 1945.
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2 Sep 2019 07:19 |
So this would be below couple, the Parents...
Chris :)
Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Ricketts Albert Westminster 1a 1121 Salter Henrietta Westminster 1a 1121
Westminster Marriages (Find My Past) First Name Henreetta (Spinster) Last name Salter Age 20 Birth year 1878 Marriage year 1898 Parish St Anne, Soho Spouse's first name(s) Albert (Bachelor occ. Bricklayer) Spouse's last name Ricketts Spouse age 22 Spouse's birth year 1876 Father's first name(s) Henry (occ. Gardener) Father's last name Salter Spouse's father's first name(s) Albert (occ. Painter) Spouse's father's last name Ricketts County Middlesex Archive City of Westminster Archives Centre Record set Westminster Marriages (Residence at Time, him, 122, Newport Rd. her 55, Newport Rd. wits. Henry Charles Cooper, Maggie Fleming)
Edits (AQ posted earlier, below)
Birth: RICKETTS, HENRY ALFRED (mother's maiden name: SALTER) GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in ST. PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 64
(I don't see any other records for a Henry Alfred Ricketts after the 1911 census- unless I'm missing it)
1911:
Street address: 28 Sidney Street, St Pancras Name Age Albert Ricketts Head 34 Building Trade Brompton Henrietta Ricketts Wife 32 Westminster Henrietta Ellen Ricketts daughter 11 St Pancras Nelly Elizabeth Ricketts daughter 9 St Pancras Ivy Lydia Ricketts daughter 7 St Pancras Henry Alfred Ricketts son 4 St Pancras
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1901 (Find My Past) Albert Rickett Head Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayers Labr Brompton Henriette Rickett Wife Married Female 23 1878 - London, England Henrietta Rickett Daughter - Female 1 1900 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England 28, Sidney Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex
(from AQ earlier)
Baptism of later child: Name: Albert William Ricketts Baptism Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 13 Jun 1915 Baptism Date: 28 1915 Baptism Place: Saint Pancras Parish Church, Camden, England Father: Albert Ricketts -HOUSE PAINTER Mother: Henrietta Ricketts Abode: 25 Drummond Crescent ---------------------------------
Marriage of Nelly Elizabeth:
Name: Nellie Elizabeth Ricketts Residence: 257 Hampton Road Marriage Age: 27 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1902 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1929 Marriage Place: St Matthew, St Pancras, Camden, England Father: Albert Ricketts- PAINTER Spouse: Sidney James Fowler
Name: Ivy Lydia Ricketts Gender: Female Baptism Date: 14 Aug 1904 (Born July 4th 1904) Baptism Place: Somers Town St Mary the Virgin, Camden, England Father:Albert Ricketts Mother: Henrietta Ricketts
Name: Henrietta Ellen Ricketts Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date:20 Sep 1899 (Born July 6th 1899) Baptism Place: St Pancras St Saviour, Camden, England Father: Albert Ricketts Mother: Henrietta Ricketts
Name: Nelly Elizabeth Ricketts Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 9 Feb 1902 (Born Dec. 30th 1901) Baptism Place: Somers Town St Mary the Virgin, Camden, England Father: Albert Ricketts Mother: Henrietta Ricketts
(not below Marriages, images checked)
Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Ricketts Henrietta E Agg Paddington 1a 95
Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Ricketts Ivy L Buckle Pancras 1b 9
(if you mean below Death)
Deaths Sep 1923 (>99%) ------------------------------------------- Ricketts Ivy 19 Pancras 1b 76
Burial Register summary Ricketts Ivy Burial date 01 September 1923 Location Camden
(again, images can be viewed!, 1922 Electoral, Albert, 26, Drummond Street)
https://www.deceasedonline.com/
1891 (Find My Past) Henry Salter Head Widower Male 55 1836 Gardener Somerset, England Henrietta Salter Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar London, Middlesex, England Warren Street, St Pancras, London & Middlesex
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Dea
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2 Sep 2019 07:35 |
Well, this is Henrietta in 1939 (her birth date matches the birth date given on her baptism register entry:
Henrietta C Ricketts's life in 1939 (the intial 'C' is not clear on image and obviously should be 'E') Darenth Park Darenth Park, Dartford R.D., Kent, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Henrietta C Ricketts 06 Jul 1899 Female None, Detained Under Mental Deficiency Acts Single 8 51 Ref: RG101/1813I/012/34 Letter Code: DJEG
She is in Darenth Park alongside hundreds of others! - You can read some info regarding the Hospital / School here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darenth_Park_Hospital
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2 Sep 2019 07:47 |
In view of where she was in 1939, I wonder if this could be Henrietta's death?
Name: Henrietta L Ricketts Death Age: 56 Birth Date: abt 1900 Registration Date: Apr 1956 [May 1956] [Jun 1956] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Dartford *** Inferred County: Kent Volume: 5b Page: 418
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2 Sep 2019 16:45 |
Saw below from FMP...(Birth for her not shouting out though!)...
Chris :)
Kent Burials First Name Henrietta Louisa Last name Ricketts Birth year 1900 Age 56 Burial year 1956 Burial date 25 May 1956 Burial ground Darenth Asylum Cemetery Place Darenth, Asylum Cemetery County Kent Document reference 656 Record set Kent Burials
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2 Sep 2019 19:00 |
It has to be 'our' Henrietta - we know she was in Darenth in 1939 as she had the correct date of birth on the index !
I cannot believe that they had 2 different Henrietta Ricketts' in there with dates of birth within a year of each other !! - It is not a common name and there is no birth reg, for a Henrietta Louisa to fit. - The death details must be incorrect !
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2 Sep 2019 19:17 |
Below Records held at LMA (London Metropolitan Archives) might be worth a look!.
Darenth Park Hospital, Dartford Admission & Discharge 1891 - 1986
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hospitalrecords/details.asp?id=36
Chris :) (1930 (Electoral) Henrietts still at home, with Albert, Alice Elizabeth, 26, Drummond Crescent. 1932 Henrietta with Albert)
Edits (AQ posted below earlier)
Albert's wife Henrietta died in 1922 and Albert remarried in 1923 to Alice Elizabeth Cook. I think wife, Alice Elizabeth, died in 1930. From at least 1915- 1932 Albert lived at 26 Drummond Crescent, St Pancras.
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Burial Register summary Ricketts Alice Eliz Burial date 27 December 1930 Location Camden
https://www.deceasedonline.com/
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Nicola
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3 Sep 2019 23:22 |
Taken awhile to look through this info but all sounds relevant. It seems this is the right Henrietta in Dartford and not the one who married John Agg in 1918. Ivy Buckle living in islington(Loraine Buildings, my in 1939 with husband Robert Buckle, they had 3 children or was my Ivy the one that died in 1922 aged 19? I will get to the bottom of this, ordering more certs and still need to find Kenneth son of Nellie and Sidney Fowler born 1934. Thanks all
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3 Sep 2019 23:49 |
For our reference:
Kenneth J Fowler in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007 Name: Kenneth J Fowler Registration Date: Jan 1934 [Feb 1934] [Mar 1934] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Islington Inferred County: London Mother's Maiden Name: Ricketts Volume Number: xx Page Number: xxx
There's a possible marriage in Surrey in 1954, to a June E Fry.
Do you know what his middle initial stands for? Or his exact date of birth?
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Nicola
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4 Sep 2019 00:02 |
No I don't, not sure I can order birth cert for living person( haven't found death), doesn't seem right anyway. Other births for Ivy Ricketts and Robert T Buckle are Ronald F Buckle born 1928, Holborn, Douglas R Buckle born 1930, Finsbury and Daphne F Buckle born 1938 Islington. I have ordered this Ivy's marriage cert to make sure the DOB and father are correct. It could be my Ivy that died in 1922.
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4 Sep 2019 00:29 |
I don't see Nellie and Sidney in 1939.
??? Sidney James Fowler in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Sidney James Fowler Death Age: 87 Birth Date: 15 Nov 1903 Registration Date: Dec 1990 Registration district: Windsor and Maidenhead Inferred County: Berkshire Volume: 19 Page: 767
?? Nelly Elizabeth Fowler in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Nelly Elizabeth Fowler Death Age: 91 Birth Date: 30 Dec 1901 Registration Date: Jan 1993 Registration district: Slough Inferred County: Berkshire Register Number: B16C District and Subdistrict: 3211B Entry Number: 52
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Choccy
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4 Sep 2019 06:18 |
1939 Register
37 Warren Road, Willesden M.B., Middlesex, England
Fowler household (3 people)
Sidney J Fowler 15 Nov 1903 Male Home & Export Packer Che Married 150 1 Nellie E Fowler 30 Dec 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 150 2
The record for this person is officially closed. ?
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