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I don't think he's the Newcastle man. If father's name was Patrick and he was a farmer then I think Michael was more likely born in Ireland. Loads of farmers in Ireland but we would more likely think of them as crofters or small holders.

I have the marriage certificate and he states his age as 28 years and Elizabeth's as 26 years.
Blessings Ingrid

? If day and month, but not year were correct on the 1939

and if correct - 1901 Ireland census shows aged 26 b 1885. But the year is more likely to be 1884 (just 1901 - 26 = 1885, but would cover only birth 1st Qtr 1885, leaving ¾ of 1884 to play with)

1943 Q4 death aged 59 would fit with a September 1884 birth

(Perhaps whoever registered the death knew correct age)

Do you have the marriage certificate for declared ages in 1917?

The 1891 Patrick in Newcastle is a Labourer

Wow, you lovely people are just amazing!!!! I thank you so very much for all of your efforts, and this has made sense of some of the mysteries in the family.
Now I wonder if he was the Michael born in Newcastle? because he's obviously a bit of a scally so could have altered his actual birth date as well.
Blessings Ingrid

Well, I think that proves that we have the right man on the 1939 register.

I'm just not finding a Michael Conway birth in Ireland to match the DOB given on the 1939 register.

Surrey Mirror 16 november 1928

A Husband's Delinquency - Michael joseph Conway, 2 Upper West Street, Reigate at the Reigate Borough Bench on Monday before the Mayor (Mr Temple Newell) and Mr TS Marriage was charged on a warrant with failing to comply with an order made on October 11th in respect of the maintenance of his wife, Elizabeth Annie Conway, South Albert Road, Reigate and her seven children, of which she was granted custody. The order was for 10s a week for the wife and 2s per week in respect of each child, and the arrears amounted to £5 10s - Evidence of arrest was given by P.C. Ayers. The wife stated that since the order was made her husband had paid nothing on the order. At the time the order was made he had been employed on work on the roads, his wages being £2 17s 9d a week. As far as she knew, he was still in work. He had written to her telling her he was willing to keep the children, but he refused to keep her. The prisoner who wore the uniform of the Fire Brigade, said he had only done 5 days work since the order was made, and was now unemployed. He had been paid at the rate of 10s a day. He stated that he was willing to pay the arrears due on the maintenance of the children, £3 12s. Prisoner on this undertaking was discharges, the amount owing being paid later the same day.

Surrey Mirror 12 May 1939 -

Arrears of £287 - when Michael Joseph Conway, a Reigate painter, appeared on warrant at Reigate Police court yesterday (Thursday) for being in arrear with regard to maintenance of his wife and children, the Clerk stated that the arrears, under a 17s 6d a week order made in 1928, now amounted to £287 18s 6d. Directing an adjournement of the case so long as Conway paid 22s 6d a week (including 5s 0ff the arrears) the Mayor (Alderman HJ Hamblen) intimated that, subject to regular payments, the Bench were prepared to remit £250 of the amount outstanding, leaving the arrears to be met at £37 18s 6d. Conway, who had been out of work for a long period, but was now in casual employment, promised to do his best. Of his seven children, the Clerk said, four were now over 16, and did not come under the order.

I can't get into the first article that AustinQ has shown. I think the column runs over 2 pages and I'm only seeing the first page. There is this article

BOROUGH OF REIGATE.
At the Reigate Borough Bench Thursday last week, an application for separation order, the grounds of desertion, was made by Airs. Elizabeth Ann Conway. 41, North Albert-road. Reigate, against her husband, Conway, JO. Upper West-street. Reigate.
19 October 1928 - Surrey Mirror - Reigate, Surrey, England


The article shows that they hadn't live together since February 1927. Elizabeth and their seven children aged from 10 years to 1 year were living with her parents. Michael's occupation is given as a labourer. Elizabeth was granted maintenance of £1. 7s. 6d. each week.

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Name MICHAEL CONWAY
Date of Birth 1885, 1 December
Group Registration ID 10922650
SR District/Reg Area Tipperary
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R
Image


Father Patrick, a Labourer, mother Mary maiden name McGrath.

Looking at the electoral registers it looks like Elizabeth and Michael had been living separately for a while- I no longer have access to the newspapers but wondered if there was any information in the following articles for him?

"When Michael Conway, a Reigate painter, appeared on warrant at Reigate Police Court yesterday (Thursday) for being in arrear * with regard..."
12 May 1939 - Surrey Mirror - Reigate, Surrey, England

"the witness said had seen his aunt since that morning, but she had been unable to give account what hail happened. Michael Joseph Conway, 41. North Albert-road, Reigate. fireman, in the Reigate Borough Brigade, said was called the fire at about five o’clock..."
04 February 1927 - Surrey Mirror - Reigate, Surrey, England

A HFSBAND’S DELINOI ENCY. - Michael Joseph Conway. 2, Fpper Weststreet. Reigate. at the Reigatc Borough Bench Monday, liefore the Mayor (Mr. Temple Newell) and Mr. T...
16 November 1928 - Surrey Mirror - Reigate, Surrey, England

Witness saw nothing whatever to prevent him turning to the right in normal manner he did. Overtaking at the Junction Michael Joseph Conway, 2. Upper Weststreet. Reigate. who was standing outside the Market Stores at the time, gave evidence In support of
14 September 1934 - Surrey Mirror - Reigate, Surrey, England

Again...........???????????

1901

Residents of a house 3 in Foilacamin (Buolick, Tipperary)

Conway Bridget 80 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer Cannot read Irish and English Widow -
Conway Patrick 43 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer, Clerk Read and write - Married -
Conway Bridget 41 Female Daughter in Law Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Dressmaker Read and write - Married -
Conway Bridget 15 Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Housekeeper Read and write - Not Married -
Conway Michael 13 Male Grand Son Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Conway Mary 12 Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Conway Margaret 10 Female Grand Daughter Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -
Conway Patrick 8 Male Grand Son Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Scholar Read and write - Not Married -

1911 for above
Residents of a house 9 in Foilacamin (Buolick, Tipperary)

Conway Patrick 57 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer Read and write - Married - - - -
Conway Bridget 60 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Tipperary - Read and write - Married - 25 5 5
Conway Bridget 24 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer Daughter Read and write - Single - - - -
Conway Michael 23 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer's Son Read and write - Single - - - -
Conway Mary 21 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer's Daughter Read and write - Single - - - -
Conway Margaret 20 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmer's Daughter Read and write - Single - - - -
Conway Patrick 18 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Tipperary Farmers Son Read and write - Single - -

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Globe Hse Hopkinstown Road Pontypridd, Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Wales

Patrick McGarth Boarder Single Male 27 1884 Waterford Colliery Repairer Underground Transcription
Michael Conway Boarder Single Male 26 1885 Tipperrary Colliery Labourer Underground Transcription
Patrick McDonald Boarder Single Male 35 1876 Tipperary Colliery Hauiler Underground Transcription
Patrick Burns Boarder Single Male 37 1874 Tipperary Colliery Labourer Underground Transcription
John Foley Boarder Single Male 24 1887 County Cork Colliery Repairer Underground Transcription
Mary Ann Andrews Wife Married Female 46 1865 Glamorgan Dowlais - Transcription
John Andrews Head Married Male 54 1857 Glamorgan Cardiff Colliery Weigher Above Ground Transcription
Gwendoline Andrews Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Glamorgan Pontypridd - Transcription
Gladys Alwyn Andrews Daughter Single Female 8 1903 Glamorgan Ppridd - Transcription
David William Andrews Son Single Male 17 1894 Glamorgan Ppridd Colliery Saddler Aboveground Assistant Repairing

Hi again, I think that the 1939 Register is the correct place for him living at the time, he is just around the corner from wife and children, and not a lot of mining happened in Reigate - so he probably switched occupations. The only other death that I thought possible was 1972 Surrey South Eastern, (Reigate area), which has a birth abt 1885. Still flummoxed on birthdate though and as for his father, Patrick being a farmer can't find him in English census.
Confused … Ingrid.

Ingrid, that doesn't look like your Michael in 1939 then as that man is a Journeyman Painter so unlikely to have been a miner.

Do you have an approximate year of death and place of death for your Michael please?

Thank you to all who added information to this thread, I have a little more info. Michael was living in Pritchard Street, Tonyrefail, South Wales and working as a miner/and also in the Royal Field Artillery as a Gunner in 1919 - both occupations on his marriage cert. Father Patrick's occupation apparently is Farmer.
Blessings Ingrid

If he remained in Surrey, this is the only possible death I can see but age a little out from the 1939 register.

We really need Ingrid to come back and help us out here.


First name(s) Michael J
Last name Conway
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1884
Age 59
Death quarter 4
Death year 1943
District Surrey North Eastern
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 39
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

That baptism pre-dates the DOB as per 1939

Not sure about that one lel. No middle name and wrong DOB if the 1939 register is correct.

Michael Conway
England Births and Christenings
Name
Michael Conway
Residence Place
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Gender
Male
Christening Date
14 Apr 1887
Christening Date (Original)
14 Apr 1887
Christening Place
St. Dominic, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Birth Date
28 Mar 1887
Father's Name
Patrick Conway
Mother's Name
Frances Fay Conway

Possible birth?

Name:
Michael Conway
Registration Year:
1887
Registration Quarter:
Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:
Newcastle upon Tyne
Parishes for this Registration District:
View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County:
Northumberland
Volume:
10b
Page:
114