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Sidami
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24 Jul 2018 21:10 |
I have William Evans bn c 1908 living possibly Carlisle Road Slough possibly time of census? Annie Elizabeth Newell born June 1910 Brixton ? Many thanks.
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Dea
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24 Jul 2018 21:36 |
No-one on 1939 to fit either of those people with the details given.
Do you know anything more about either of them - who they might be with or what happened to them before or after 1939 ?
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Dea x
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Sidami
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24 Jul 2018 21:43 |
It’s a bit vague really it’s just that a friend of mine has asked me to look into her husbands parents he was adopted and this is all she has.
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jul 2018 22:09 |
I can't see any birth of an Annie Elizabeth Newell in Brixton in 1910.
I assume this is the birth you mean?
NEWELL, ANNIE ELIZABETH - (no mms) GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in LAMBETH Volume 01D Page 446
Brixton was in Lambeth reg district.
So this will be her in 1911:
Elizabeth Annie Newell in the 1911 England Census Name: Elizabeth Annie Newell Age in 1911: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Brixton, London, England Civil Parish: Clewer Within County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: 59 Arthur Road, Windsor Occupation: School Registration district: Windsor Registration District Number: 125 Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 298 Piece: 6714 Household Members: Name Age Harriett Ruth Hawkins 66 John Newell 11 - born Queen Charlotte Hospital, London - visitor Elizabeth Annie Newell 3
Her name has been written as Annie Newell, then Elizabeth has been added above it as an afterthought.
Ancestry suggests this is John's birth:
NEWELL, JOHN EDWARD - (no mms) GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 545
And his death:
John Edward Newell in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: John Edward Newell Death Age: 77 Birth Date: 9 May 1900 Registration Date: Dec 1977 Registration district: Paddington Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 14 Page: 1221
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jul 2018 22:17 |
Annie in 1939 ??
Annie E Newall in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Annie E Newall [Annie E Driver] [Annie E Calladine] Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 17 Jun 1907 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 77, Swaffield Road Residence Place: Wandsworth, London, England Occupation: Domestic Service Cook Schedule Number: 3 Sub Schedule Number: 52 OVSPI: Inmate Enumeration District: AXZG Registration district: Wandsworth
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jul 2018 22:24 |
Her first marriage:
Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%) Driver Matthew Newell Surrey Mid.E. 2a 786 Newell Annie E Driver Surrey Mid.E. 2a 786
The date of adding the name Calladine to the 1939 record is June 1958, so I assume this is the second marriage - she was already calling herself Calladine:
Marriages Dec 1958 (>99%) CALLADINE Ann CALLADINE Nottingham 3c 755 CALLADINE Edward CALLADINE Nottingham 3c 755
Her death:
Anne Elizabeth Calladine in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Anne Elizabeth Calladine Death Age: 82 Birth Date: 17 Jun 1907 Registration Date: Jan 1990 Registration district: Hatfield Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 10 Page: 308
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jul 2018 22:44 |
A possibility for William Evans in 1939 - living at 29 Carlton Road. (Carlton rather than Carlisle ???) Nobody else living with them:
William G Evans in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: William G Evans Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 19 Jun 1906 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 29 Residence Place: Slough, Buckinghamshire, England Occupation: Gluer Sirge worker Heavy [Glue and Size Worker, Heavy ] Schedule Number: 41 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: DVOE Registration district: 144/1 Inferred Spouse: Beatrice M Evans Household Members: Name William G Evans Beatrice M Evans
Beatrice's death:
Beatrice Evans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Beatrice Evans Death Age: 91 Birth Date: 7 Jul 1908 Registration Date: May 2000 Registration district: Slough Inferred County: Berkshire Register Number: B32C District and Subdistrict: 3211B
and William's:
William George Evans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: William George Evans Death Age: 83 Birth Date: 19 Jun 1906 Registration Date: Jan 1990 Registration district: Slough Inferred County: Berkshire Volume: 19 Page: 574
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greyghost
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24 Jul 2018 22:56 |
Had a look on FMP for that 1939 record. And at the original as the transcript showed her on her own, but number 52 Schedule sub number.
the ? is because they couldn't interpret the initial after Annie
77 Swaffield Road , Wandsworth, London, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Annie ? Calladine (Driver,Newall) 17 Jun 1907 Female Domestic Service Cook Single 3 52
Unfortunately that address is the Workhouse by the looks of it. Annie is one of many at that address looking at the original.
Initially entered as Annie Newall. This was altered to Driver and dated 25.6.1943. The change to Calladine was entered 6.6.58.
These are not necessarily the date that the name changed, but more the date the change was made on the Register
Google the address - plenty to find
EDIT - AG - you've added some info to your post - there was only the first marriage there when I started this one - interrupted mid flow I was!
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Sidami
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24 Jul 2018 23:02 |
Thanks
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Sidami
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24 Jul 2018 23:05 |
I have been told she married Herbert Stratton in 1945?
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greyghost
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24 Jul 2018 23:20 |
In view of where the marriage to Matthew Driver took place, could this be him in 1939 with siblings and Father?
Driver Household (4 People) 138 Seymour Avenue , Merton and Morden U.D., Surrey, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Matthew Driver 01 Jan 1913 Male Tool Fitter Heavy Worker Single 70 3 *** Matthew Driver 26 May 1884 Male Tool Fitter Heavy Worker Widowed 70 1 Sybella Driver 10 Aug 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 70 2 Donald Driver 14 Dec 1914 Male Tool Fitter Heavy Worker Single 70 4
*** Original has 11.1.1913 (reported)
if it is, then Matthew Senior died in 1947, Surrey Mid Eastern RD and Matthew Junior in 1977
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) MATTHEW Last name DRIVER Gender Male Birth day 11 Birth month 1 Birth year 1913 Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 1977 District Sutton County Surrey Volume 15 Page 0540
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KathleenBell
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24 Jul 2018 23:32 |
First name(s) HERBERT R Last name STRATTON Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1945 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ HERBERT R STRATTON married Annie E Newell Spouse's last name Newell District Eton District number - County Buckinghamshire Country England Volume 3A Volume as transcribed 3A Page number 3716 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
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greyghost
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24 Jul 2018 23:45 |
Herbert R Stratton on the 1939 Register
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION Herbert 1939 - would be right area for the marriage 1945
Stratton Household (4 People) 34 White Hart Road , Slough M.B., Buckinghamshire, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Herbert R Stratton 28 Jun 1911 Male Porter (Bake House) Single 183 2 Nellie Stratton 07 Jul 1876 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 183 1 Frederick J Stratton 04 May 1913 Male Window Cleaner Single 183 3 Allan E Stratton 22 Dec 1914 Male Tailor Single 183 4
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England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) HERBERT RONALD Last name STRATTON Gender Male Birth day 28 Birth month 6 Birth year 1911 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1994 District Bracknell District number 3181 Register number 23 Entry number 144 Date of registration mm/yy 1194
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?? possibly hers, but only going on area of marriage
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
First name(s) ANNIE ELIZABETH Last name STRATTON Gender Female Birth day 2 Birth month 6 Birth year 1908 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1971 District Eton County Buckinghamshire Volume 6A Page 1034 Country England
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Sidami
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25 Jul 2018 06:04 |
Greyghost that is the marriage I believe she only married once, she had a son Peter Newell born 1935 out of wedlock.
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Sidami
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28 Aug 2018 19:17 |
Do you have a year on 1939 for when William married Beatrice please?
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Sidami
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28 Aug 2018 20:42 |
Where can I find the marriage of William and Beatrice please?
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ErikaH
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28 Aug 2018 21:49 |
On freebmd if it happened in England or Wales
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ArgyllGran
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28 Aug 2018 22:07 |
My guess is that this is the marriage - but you'd have to buy the cert to be absolutely sure.
William G Evans in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: William G Evans Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1934 Registration district: Eton Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Spouse: Beatrice M James Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 3875
And Beatrice's birth:
JAMES, BEATRICE MAY mms JAMES GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in ETON BUCKS Volume 03A Page 935
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Sidami
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28 Aug 2018 22:41 |
Thanks
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Sidami
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29 Aug 2018 08:19 |
Can you find Beatrice Evans on 1939 born 1908 Bucks please?
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