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1911
18 Blucher ST, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Benjamin Cray Head Married Male 32 1879 S Carbrook Laburer Foundry
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Elizabeth Cray Wife Married Female 33 1878 Greasbro -
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Kate Cray Daughter - Female 9 1902 Carbrook -
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Maggie Cray Daughter - Female 7 1904 Carbrook -
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Mary Cray Daughter - Female 3 1908 Carbrook -
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Harry Carnock Boarder Married Male 25 1886 Walsall Stafteshire Iron Worker Filer
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Sarah More Boarder Single Female 49 1862 Liverpool -
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Flore Booth Visitor Single Female 18 1893 Carbrook -
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Benjamin Cray Son - Male 5 1906 Carbrook -

1901
Stable Houses, 4, Bright Street, Attercliffe cum Darnall, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Benjamin H Cray Head Married Male 22 1879 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Pit Labourer
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Elizabeth Cray Wife Married Female 24 1877 Greasbrough, Yorkshire, England -
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Sarah E Cray Daughter - Female 1 1900 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England -
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Eleanor Greatorex Visitor Widow Female 72 1829 Boston, Lincolnshire, England

Benjamin Harlock
Last name Cray
Age 20
Birth year 1878
Residence 322 Bright Street, Carbrook
Marriage year 1898
Marriage date 26 Dec 1898
Marriage place Greasbrough
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Green
Spouse's age 22
Spouse's residence Wingfield, Greasbrough
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Cray
Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
Spouse's father's last name Green
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Page 182
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies

doesn't seem likely

Hi Maddie Kate Cray father is Benjamin Harlock Cray.on free bmd birth is 1885 there is another Benjamin Harlock Cray born 1906 do you think this could be Kate Cray brother thanks

Thankyou Maddie you are a star with all the info you have helped me with.

further births
Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
TWELVETREES, FRANK HERBERT WELLS Order
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 506

TWELVETREES, HORACE WELLS Order
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 571

Horace
Last name Twelvetress
Birth year 1901
Birth date 18 Sep 1901
Baptism year 1901
Baptism date 22 Sep 1901
Baptism place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR-138-2-56
Page 50

HORACE
Last name TWELVETREES
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1926
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ HORACE TWELVETREES married
Kate Cray
Spouse's last name Cray
District Sheffield
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Volume as transcribed 9C
Page number 1007

Horace
Last name Twelvetrees
Age 24
Birth year 1902
Residence 2ct 2h Fell RD
Marriage year 1926
Marriage date 03 Apr 1926
Marriage place Carbrook
Spouse's first name(s) Kate
Spouse's last name Cray
Spouse's age 24
Spouse's residence 286 Dunlop St
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Twelvetrees
Spouse's father's first name(s) Benjamin Harlock
Spouse's father's last name Cray
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Page 220
Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

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First name(s) HORACE
Last name TWELVETREES
Gender Male
Birth day 8
Birth month 9
Birth year 1901
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1982
District Sheffield
County Yorkshire
Volume 3
Page 1671
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

Hi Maddie thank you for info a lot to take in

45
Series MEPO6
Source Criminal Record Office New Scotland Yard January 7, 1933
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
First name(s) George Or George Henry
Last name Twelvetrees Or George Henry
Year 1933
Birth year 1892 --------------------- Sheffield
Occupation Labourer
Place County of London
Birth date ? ? 1892
Date ? ? 1933
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Prison Registers
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

shp breaking and assault on police - 3 months imp

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court House, 6, Henry Street, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Twelvetrees Head Married Male 43 1858 Sutton, Lincolnshire, England Gas Stoker
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Elizabeth Wells Boarder Single Female 38 1863 Rockley, Nottinghamshire, England - ----------------------------
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John Wm W Twelvetrees Son Single Male 15 1886 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Pocket Knife Grinder
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Lily A W Twelvetrees Daughter Single Female 11 1890 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England -
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George H W Twelvetrees Son Single Male 7 1894 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Elizabeth
Last name Twelvetrus
Age 68
Birth year 1863
Burial year 1931
Burial date 07 Feb 1931
Burial place Sheffield, Burngreave Cemetery
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive reference 207
Page 103
Record set Yorkshire Burials
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Burials
Collections from England, Great Britain

haven't found a marriage as yet

1911

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
33 Newhall Road Sheffield, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Twelvetress Head Married Male 54 1857 Sutton Cross Gas Co Stoker
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Elizabeth Twelvetress Wife Married Female 49 1862 Rockley -
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John William Twelvetress Son Single Male 25 1886 Sheffield Yorks Gas Co Stoker
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Lillian Ada Brown Daughter Married Female 21 1890 Sheffield Yorks -
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George Henry Brown Son Single Male 18 1893 Sheffield Yorks Gas Co Labourer General
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Horace Brown Son - Male 10 1901 Sheffield Yorks School
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William Brown Stepson Married Male 21 1890 Sheffield Yorks Labourer To A Carter

i think says married 6 years but entry unclear could be 26
13 children born 8 living 5 died

TWELVETREES, LILY ADA WELLS Order
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 526

TWELVETREES, JOHN WILLIAM WELLS WELLS Order
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 430

TWELVETREE, GEORGE HENRY WELLS Order
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 386

1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wicker, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Patrick T Kelly Head Married Male 45 1846 Ireland Bricklayers Labourer
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Bridgett Kelly Wife Married Female 58 1833 Ireland -
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Elizabeth Wells Lodger Single Female 29 1862 Nottinghamshire, England Tailoress
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Henry Wells Lodgers Son - Male 12 1879 Yorkshire, England -
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Lily A Wells Lodgers Daughter - Female 1 1890 Yorkshire, England

Hi SylvialnCanada thank you for all your kind info.John did have a brother called George but I did not know he was in the army reserve.I have John and his siblings mother as Lucy Cade.but I do have their father as been married also to Elizabeth Wells do you think Elizabeth might be their step mum as I have Lucy dieing in 1902 thank you

Found your John's service record!!!!!!

The record that Maddie posted above is from his War Service pension record .........

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920

Name: John William Twelvetrees
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1887
Marriage Date: 5 Aug 1912
Marriage Place: St Marys Sheffield
Age: 28
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 42 Sheaf Gardens, Sheffield
Regimental Number: 85661
Regiment Name: Royal Field Artillery
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 13
Other Records: Search for 'John William Twelvetrees' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
John William Twelvetrees Self (Head)
Elizabeth Hill Spouse
John Twelvetrees Child

There are several pages to that record, which basically is his service record. There is NO change in his service number, and no mention of being assigned to another section. So I would think that he is NOT the same John Twelvetrees who was in the Machine Gun Corps.

He was discharged as surplus to military requirements on 14-12-1918, not having suffered impairment since entry into service. He does not seem to have been awarded a pension.

from GRO Index

He had a third forename, his mother's maiden name

TWELVETREES, JOHN WILLIAM WELLS mmn WELLS
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 430

Janette ...

it might take a bit of searching to sort this out.

There was a John Twelvetrees who was in WW1 and got the same medals ....

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

Name: John Twelvetrees
Regiment or Corps: Lincolnshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 200280
Other Records: Search for 'John Twelvetrees' in other WWI collections


There are 3 medal record cards existing, as shown on Ancestry .........


All British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 results for John Twelvetree*

John Twelvetree Machine Gun Corps 144844
John Twelvetrees Lincolnshire Regiment 200280
John W Twelvetrees Royal Field Artillery 85661


From those records it does indeed look as if there were TWO men called John Twelvetree(s), but it does not appear that the actual service records survived.


Now for a bit of WW1 military history.

A man was drafted, given a service number in a regiment (eg Royal Field Artillery) and went into basic training. After basic training he MIGHT be seconded to another battalion,regiment or army section, and would then be given a NEW service number.

The next bit I know about because it happened to my grandfather who did his basic training and then was assigned to the Machine Gun Corps, thus he has 2 service numbers BUT his war records exist and show this change.


The Machine Gun Corp was a group of elite men with a unique ability to shoot. The Corps was set up around 1915, intended to be a group of fast moving snipers, that's probably the best description.

Unfortunately, it was disbanded around 1920 and all of the Corps' records mysteriously disappeared at that time, so we can't even search for them


Now we come to the "any more John or John William Twelvetrees" .............. it turns out it was NOT an unusual name :-(

I looked on Freebmd for births of John Twelvetree* between 1870 and 1899 ............. the age range that might be expected to serve in WW1 ..........


Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
Twelvetrees John William Holbeach 7a 372

Births Jun 1875 (>99%)
Twelvetree John William Thrapston 3b 195

Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
TWELVETREES John Thomas Radford 7b 263 S

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
TWELVETREE John Thomas Thrapston 3b 193

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
TWELVETREES John Thomas Spalding 7a 396

Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
TWELVETREES John William W Sheffield 9c 430

Births Dec 1892 (>99%)
Twelvetree John Thomas W Peterbro' 3b 238

Births Jun 1897 (>99%)
Twelvetrees John Henry B Rotherham 9c 734

Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
Twelvetree John Sheffield 9c 563


Holbeach and Spalding are both in Lincolnshire

I found this while searching for John William. I assume it is his brother??

Just posting it in case you do not have it.


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

Name: George Twelvetree
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1893
Birth Place: Petsmoor, Yorkshire, England
Enlistment Age: 18
Document Year: 1911
Regimental Number: 2421
Number of Images: 46
Form Title: Army Reserve Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'George Twelvetree' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
George Twelvetree Self (Head)
James Swilvekus Father
John William Twelvetree Brother
Twelvetree Brother

their marriage
Name: Florence Bradbury
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Spouse: John Twelvetrees
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 1332

Name: Florence Twelvetrees
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1913
Registration Date: Jul 1990
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Volume: 3
Page: 1474

Name: John Twelvetrees
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1913
Registration Date: Apr 1994
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: South Yorkshire
Register Number: C58A
District and Subdistrict: 0481C

thank you for that John is the son of John William Twelvetree so the son was married to Florence

Thank you every one for your help is there two John William Twelvetree in the army service number 144844 and 85661

Name: John William Twelvetrees
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1887
Marriage Date: 5 Aug 1912
Marriage Place: St Marys Sheffield
Age: 28
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: 42 Sheaf Gardens, Sheffield
Regimental Number: 85661
Regiment Name: Royal Field Artillery
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 13
Other Records: Search for 'John William Twelvetrees' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
John William Twelvetrees Self (Head)
Elizabeth Hill Spouse
John Twelvetrees Child

Name: John W Twelvetrees
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1886
Registration Date: Sep 1955
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2d
Page: 15

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in the 1939 England and Wales Register
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Name: John Twelvetrees
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1913
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 54
Residence Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: L M S signal & telegraph
Schedule Number: 50
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: KITN
Registration district: Sheffield 510/5
Household Members:
Name
John Twelvetrees
This record is officially closed.
Florence Twelvetrees

Name: Florence Twelvetrees
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 25 Aug 1913
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 54
Residence Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 50
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: KITN
Registration district: Sheffield 510/5

GRO records have an 's' on his surname


First name(s) John William
Last name Twelvetrees
Age 26
Birth year 1886
Residence 48 Wamsell Road
Marriage year 1912
Marriage date 05 Aug 1912
Marriage place Sheffield, St Mary, Bramall Lane
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Hill
Spouse's age 26
Spouse's residence 175 Leadmill Road
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Twelvetrees
Spouse's father's first name(s) George Leonard
Spouse's father's last name Hill
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR-56-2-17


First name(s) JOHN W
Last name TWELVETREES
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1886
Age 69
Death quarter 3
Death year 1955
District Sheffield
County Yorkshire
Volume 2D
Page 15
Country England

Thank you for info on medals.i thought he did not marry again but did wonder who looked after his two children while he was in the forces.

Are you sure he didn't remarry


First name(s) JOHN
Last name TWELVETREE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1917
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JOHN TWELVETREE married
Susannah Williams
Spouse's last name Williams
District Sheffield
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Volume as transcribed 9C
Page number 995
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
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John
Last name Twelvetree
Year 1914-20
Service number 144844
Rank Private
Regiment Machine Gun Corps
Service record Soldier Number: 144844, Rank: Private, Corps: Machine Gun Corps
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D5657534
Country Great Britain
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Archive reference WO372/20
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Medal rolls and honours
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
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