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Or buy it to see what info is on it - maybe one of the children was the informant.

Yes I've done that No sign of him Think I'll have to go with the 1887 death with a note on it

Possible deaths ??

Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%)
McAlpine John 65 Tynemouth 10b 170


This one ten years out, but might be a mistake :

Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%)
McAlpine John 58 Newcastle T. 10b 98

Daughter Celia seems to have taken up with James Christie (I don't see a marriage).

John is not with her in later censuses:

Secielea Christy
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Secielea Christy
[Celia McALPINE]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: James Christy
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Byker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 21 Thornborough St
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors:
Piece: 5068
Folio: 137
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
James Christy 24
Secielea Christy 21
John Christy 3
James Christy 1


Celia Cristie
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Celia Cristie
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1862
Spouse: James Cristie
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Byker
Residence Place: Newcastle, Byker, Northumberland, England
Sub registration district: Byker
ED, Institution or Vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Piece: 4215
Folio: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cristie 34
Celia Cristie 29

Ceclia Christie
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Ceclia Christie
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: James Christie
Birth Place: Scotland
Civil Parish: Byker
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Byker
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Piece: 4790
Folio: 141
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
James Christie 44
Ceclia Christie 39
Robert McAlpine 17 - boarder, Berwick on Tweed
John McAlpine 37 - boarder, Scotland

John Mc Calpine
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Mc Calpine
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Margaret Mc Calpine
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Byker
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address: 196 Parker St
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Common
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 5068
Folio: 46
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mc Calpine 50
Margaret Mc Calpine 51
John Mc Calpine 18
Thomas Mc Calpine 15
William Mc Calpine 12

Yes I have the only one I can't find is William Their is a death for a John McAlpine 1887 Northumberland the birth date is 9 yrs out but it could be him??

he had a number of children have you traced them

John McAlpine

in the 1871 England Census

Name: John McAlpine
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margarett McAlpine
Gender: Male
Where born: Linlithgow, Scotland
Civil Parish: Berwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Berwick
Town: Berwick
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Berwick
Sub-registration district: Berwick Upon Tweed
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 5183
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John McAlpine 38
Margarett McAlpine 40
George McAlpine 15
Celia McAlpine 12
John McAlpine 9
Thomas McAlpine 6
William McAlpine 4
Francis McAlpine 4 Months

oh the youngest
Name: Francis McAlpine
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Registration Year: 1871
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Berwick
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 265

Name: John McAlpine
Gender: Male
Departure Port: Dublin, Ireland; Glasgow, Scotland; Kingstown, Ireland
Arrival date: 15 Jun 1871
Arrival Port: Quebec, Quebec, Canada; Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: St David
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Thank you for that My John was a labourer in 1881? and his wife was Margaret who died in 1885 as far as I know he didn't have a grace in his family unless he married again but I don't think he would have been a minister ??

Back to drawing board Thank you for your help

Ancestry website does seem to think he's the same John - it brings up the relevant census records for your John.
(But you can't rely on that!)

This is his burial record. Do you know of a Mrs Grace McAlpine connected to your John?
This John was a minister of religion, and died of "senile decay".

Jno Mcalpine
in the Ontario, Canada, Toronto Trust Cemeteries, 1826-1989
Name: Jno Mcalpine [ Rev ]
Age: 83
Birth Year: 1831
Birth Place: Scotland
Death Date: 24 Feb 1914
Death Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Burial Date: 26 Feb 1914
Burial Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Cemetery Section: 6 68 2
Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Ground Property Owner: Grace Mcalpine [Mrs ]
Relative Name: G McAlpine
Relative Residence Place: 617 Huron St

this is alleged death


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Name John McAlpine
Gender Male
Age 83
Birth Date abt 1831
Birth Place Scotland
Death Date 24 Feb 1914
Death Place York, Ontario, Canada
Cause of Death Senile Decay
Household Members
Name Age
John McAlpine

Name: Jno Mcalpine
Age: 83
Birth Year: 1831
Birth Place: Scotland
Death Date: 24 Feb 1914
Death Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Burial Date: 26 Feb 1914
Burial Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Cemetery Section: 6 68 2
Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Ground Property Owner: Grace Mcalpine
Relative Name: G McAlpine
Relative Residence Place: 617 Huron St

Name: John McAlpine
Birth Date: 1831
Death Date: 14 Mar 1914
Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Grace McAlpine
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...

Name: Grace McAlpine
Birth Date: 1844
Birth Place: Scotland
Death Date: 28 Mar 1924
Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: John McAlpine
URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem.

John Mcalpine

in the 1901 Census of Canada
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Name: John Mcalpine
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 70
Birth Day & Month: 28 Oct
Birth Year: 1830
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1872
Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish)
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: Clergyman R
Province: Ontario
District: Toronto (west/ouest) (city/cité)
District Number: 118
Sub-District: Toronto (West/Ouest) (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 5
Sub-District Number: C-35
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mcalpine 70
Grace Mcalpine 50

immigration year 1872 so maybe not

Hi
I have a John McAlpine born 7/5/ 1831 Linlithgow West Lothian Scotland I have him until 1881 in Northumberland where his wife Margaret died after that nothing But some one has that he died 24 Feb 1914 in Toronto is their any way of checking this death to see if it gives any info on family please