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Sylann
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13 Jul 2018 14:22 |
Hi I have a John McAlpine born 7/5/ 1831 Linlithgow West Lothian Scotland I have him until 1881 in Northumberland where his wife Margaret died after that nothing But some one has that he died 24 Feb 1914 in Toronto is their any way of checking this death to see if it gives any info on family please
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13 Jul 2018 14:32 |
this is alleged death
Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1936 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947 View Image View Record Name John McAlpine Gender Male Age 83 Birth Date abt 1831 Birth Place Scotland Death Date 24 Feb 1914 Death Place York, Ontario, Canada Cause of Death Senile Decay Household Members Name Age John McAlpine
Name: Jno Mcalpine Age: 83 Birth Year: 1831 Birth Place: Scotland Death Date: 24 Feb 1914 Death Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Burial Date: 26 Feb 1914 Burial Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Cemetery Section: 6 68 2 Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery Ground Property Owner: Grace Mcalpine Relative Name: G McAlpine Relative Residence Place: 617 Huron St
Name: John McAlpine Birth Date: 1831 Death Date: 14 Mar 1914 Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada Has Bio?: N Spouse: Grace McAlpine URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem...
Name: Grace McAlpine Birth Date: 1844 Birth Place: Scotland Death Date: 28 Mar 1924 Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario, Canada Has Bio?: N Spouse: John McAlpine URL: https://www.findagrave.com/mem.
John Mcalpine
in the 1901 Census of Canada View 1901 Census of Canada
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Name: John Mcalpine Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Age: 70 Birth Day & Month: 28 Oct Birth Year: 1830 Birthplace: Scotland Relation to Head of House: Head Immigration Year: 1872 Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish) Nationality: Canadian Religion: Presbyterian Occupation: Clergyman R Province: Ontario District: Toronto (west/ouest) (city/cité) District Number: 118 Sub-District: Toronto (West/Ouest) (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 5 Sub-District Number: C-35 Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age John Mcalpine 70 Grace Mcalpine 50
immigration year 1872 so maybe not
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 14:35 |
This is his burial record. Do you know of a Mrs Grace McAlpine connected to your John? This John was a minister of religion, and died of "senile decay".
Jno Mcalpine in the Ontario, Canada, Toronto Trust Cemeteries, 1826-1989 Name: Jno Mcalpine [ Rev ] Age: 83 Birth Year: 1831 Birth Place: Scotland Death Date: 24 Feb 1914 Death Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Burial Date: 26 Feb 1914 Burial Place: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Cemetery Section: 6 68 2 Cemetery: Mount Pleasant Cemetery Ground Property Owner: Grace Mcalpine [Mrs ] Relative Name: G McAlpine Relative Residence Place: 617 Huron St
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 14:37 |
Ancestry website does seem to think he's the same John - it brings up the relevant census records for your John. (But you can't rely on that!)
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Sylann
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13 Jul 2018 14:42 |
Thank you for that My John was a labourer in 1881? and his wife was Margaret who died in 1885 as far as I know he didn't have a grace in his family unless he married again but I don't think he would have been a minister ??
Back to drawing board Thank you for your help
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Maddie
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13 Jul 2018 14:42 |
Name: John McAlpine Gender: Male Departure Port: Dublin, Ireland; Glasgow, Scotland; Kingstown, Ireland Arrival date: 15 Jun 1871 Arrival Port: Quebec, Quebec, Canada; Montreal, Quebec, Canada Vessel: St David Search Ship Database: Search for the St David in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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13 Jul 2018 14:48 |
he had a number of children have you traced them
John McAlpine
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Name: John McAlpine Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margarett McAlpine Gender: Male Where born: Linlithgow, Scotland Civil Parish: Berwick Ecclesiastical parish: Berwick Town: Berwick County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Berwick Sub-registration district: Berwick Upon Tweed ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 5183 Folio: 12 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age John McAlpine 38 Margarett McAlpine 40 George McAlpine 15 Celia McAlpine 12 John McAlpine 9 Thomas McAlpine 6 William McAlpine 4 Francis McAlpine 4 Months
oh the youngest Name: Francis McAlpine Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Registration Year: 1871 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Berwick Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 265
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Sylann
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13 Jul 2018 15:02 |
Yes I have the only one I can't find is William Their is a death for a John McAlpine 1887 Northumberland the birth date is 9 yrs out but it could be him??
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 15:02 |
John Mc Calpine in the 1881 England Census Name: John Mc Calpine Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Margaret Mc Calpine Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Byker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 196 Parker St Marital Status: Married Occupation: Labourer Common Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: Piece: 5068 Folio: 46 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age John Mc Calpine 50 Margaret Mc Calpine 51 John Mc Calpine 18 Thomas Mc Calpine 15 William Mc Calpine 12
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13 Jul 2018 15:14 |
Daughter Celia seems to have taken up with James Christie (I don't see a marriage).
John is not with her in later censuses:
Secielea Christy in the 1881 England Census Name: Secielea Christy [Celia McALPINE] Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: James Christy Gender: Female Where born: Scotland Civil Parish: Byker County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: 21 Thornborough St Marital Status: Married Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: Piece: 5068 Folio: 137 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age James Christy 24 Secielea Christy 21 John Christy 3 James Christy 1
Celia Cristie in the 1891 England Census Name: Celia Cristie Gender: Female Age: 29 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1862 Spouse: James Cristie Birth Place: Scotland Civil Parish: Byker Residence Place: Newcastle, Byker, Northumberland, England Sub registration district: Byker ED, Institution or Vessel: 22 Neighbors: Piece: 4215 Folio: 99 Household Members: Name Age James Cristie 34 Celia Cristie 29
Ceclia Christie in the 1901 England Census Name: Ceclia Christie Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: James Christie Birth Place: Scotland Civil Parish: Byker Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Newcastle upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub-registration district: Byker ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: Piece: 4790 Folio: 141 Page Number: 6 Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age James Christie 44 Ceclia Christie 39 Robert McAlpine 17 - boarder, Berwick on Tweed John McAlpine 37 - boarder, Scotland
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 15:18 |
Possible deaths ??
Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%) McAlpine John 65 Tynemouth 10b 170
This one ten years out, but might be a mistake :
Deaths Jun 1899 (>99%) McAlpine John 58 Newcastle T. 10b 98
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Sylann
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13 Jul 2018 15:18 |
Yes I've done that No sign of him Think I'll have to go with the 1887 death with a note on it
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ArgyllGran
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13 Jul 2018 15:52 |
Or buy it to see what info is on it - maybe one of the children was the informant.
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