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Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help with getting me further back than these 3rd Great Grandparents.
They are buried together in Ecclesfield church Yorkshire with date of death on the stone and recorded - William 26/3/1849 aged 92 and Elizabeth 24/7/1829 age 73.
Marriage in Cathedral St Peter Sheffield 13 Feb 1789
3 children. Harriott 1790, Elizabeth 1792 ( my 2nd GGM) and William 1796
Only 1841 census for William living at Dykes Hall Wadsley Yorkshire. Says not born in Yorkshire but not saying where.
I was researching this some time ago and seem to think William was born in Derbyshire either Chelmorton, Tideswell, Wormhill or Ticknell. IGI has two possibles but don't want to presume.
Wife Elizabeth Brittain I think came from Sheffield. I know I have put Joseph Brittain as father and some siblings but with nothing positive to go on except a christening of Betty Brittain for the right date in Sheffield cathedral father Joseph.
I visited Sheffield archives a couple of years ago and found papers of William Swann. There was a balance sheet of the late William Swann and mentioned are Jane Brittain, Ann Brittain and Samuel Swann Brittain is a trustee. I can only think these are his wife's family and could her family be traced through these names .
I have started 2 other trees Swann and Brittain on Ancestry but cannot connect anyone. I have put names in for ancestors of William and Elizabeth with no certainty.
We have 2 trees ourselves one private and one public called Jill Hawkins.
Some people also have them on their trees but they cannot get back also.
Does anyone know why when William Swann left money £2,700 he is not mentioned in the wills?
Thank you and best wishes
Jill Hawkins
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Samuel Brittain
Spouse's Name Ann Swann
Event Date 04 Sep 1801
Event Place Chelmorton, Derbyshire, England
Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch
Ann Swann
Gender Female
Christening Date 14 Apr 1780
Christening Date (Original) 14 APR 1780
Christening Place CHELMORTON, DERBY, ENGLAND
Father's Name Thomas Swann
Mother's Name Eliza
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
Saml. Brittain
Gender Male
Christening Date 23 Apr 1779
Christening Date (Original) 23 APR 1779
Christening Place CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Brittain
Mother's Name Eliz.
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
1851
Samuel Brittain
Age 72
Estimated Birth Year abt 1779
Relation Wifes Father
Gender Male
Where born Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish Eldon Street
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 13216
Town Sheffield
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Registration district Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel 1p
Household schedule number 100
Piece 2337
Folio 212
Page number 27
Household Members
Name Age
Robert Bingham 34
Ann Swann Bingham 30
Elizabeth Ann Bingham 1
Samuel Brittain 72
Sarah Wade 21
Mary Ann Hattersley
John Brittain
Gender Male
Christening Date 23 Apr 1753
Christening Date (Original) 23 APR 1753
Christening Place CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Brittain
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
fathers marriage
John Brittain
Gender Male
Marriage Date 27 May 1749
Marriage Place Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England
Spouse Martha Padley
FHL Film Number 919325
Household Members
Name Age
John Brittain
Martha Padley
John Britain
Gender Male
Christening Date 02 May 1727
Christening Date (Original) 02 MAY 1727
Christening Place CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Natll. Britain
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
Martha
Last name Padley
Birth year -
Baptism year 1729
Baptism date 02 May 1729
Baptism place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul
Dedication St Peter & St Paul
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Adam
Mother's first name(s) -
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR-138-1-6
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Hi Maddie,
Thank you for your info. I will go through in detail to check for connections.
Regards Jill
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A possibility perhaps??
Marriage:
Place (with link) Peak Forest
Church name (with link) King Charles the Martyr
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Marriage date 24 Nov 1742
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname SWANN
Bride forename Ann
Bride surname MARSDEN
Transcribed by Trevor Moody
Credit Trevor Moody
File line number 691
Possiblly your William Swann??:
Baptism for William Swann
County Derbyshire
Place (with link) Chelmorton
Church name (with link) St John
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Baptism date 10 Jun 1756
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Anne
Father surname SWAN
Person abode King Sterndale
Transcribed by Trevor Moody
Credit Trevor Moody
File line number 3448
Brother for William Swann??
County Derbyshire
Place (with link) Chelmorton
Church name (with link) St John
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Baptism date 4 Mar 1747
Person forename Thomas
Person sex M
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Anne
Father surname SWANN
Person abode King Sterndale
Transcribed by Trevor Moody
Credit Trevor Moody
File line number 3417
Possible marriage for brother Thomas:
County Derbyshire
Place (with link) Tideswell
Church name (with link) St John
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Marriage date 17 Apr 1770
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname SWAN
Groom parish Tideswell
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom occupation Baker
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname WILLSON
Bride parish Tideswell
Bride condition Spinster
Transcribed by Trevor Moody
Credit Trevor Moody
File line number 1176
Possible child for this couple:
County Derbyshire
Place (with link) Chelmorton
Church name (with link) St John
Register type (with link) Unspecified
Baptism date 14 Apr 1780
Person forename Ann
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname SWANN
Person abode King Sterndale
Transcribed by Trevor Moody
Credit Trevor Moody
File line number 3510
Same Ann Swann as posted above who married Samuel Brittian making her the niece of William Swann??
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Dear Tiggit.
Many thanks for all the leads which look very promising.
Still trying to connect Elizabeth Brittain who married William Swann to see if there is also a connection with that branch of the Brittain family.
So far we have been unable to find Elizabeth Brittains parents or siblings.
Any help much appreciated.
Best wishes
Jill
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Did you notice that Elizabeth Brittain is described as 'widow' on her marriage licence? He is a batchelor. Witnesses were George Eyre and Amos Elliott.
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Thomas Brittain
mentioned in the record of Thomas Brittain and Elizabeth Taylor
Name Thomas Brittain
Spouse's Name Elizabeth Taylor
Event Date 06 Mar 1785
Event Place Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England
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Hi
Dear Alviegal. Thanks for this. Just wondering where you saw the info about the marriage of William Swann and Elizabeth Brittain. I haven't seen the marriage license stating widow. Where would I be able to find it?
Hi Safc. Do you think this is a better bet for Thomas Swan for a marriage than to Elizabeth Willson as stated above?
Many thanks
Jill
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Hi Margaret
On fmp there is this transcription. You can then click on View Image to see the actual image of the document.
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First name(s) Elizabeth
Last name Brittain
Residence Sheffield
Marriage year 1789
Marriage date 13 Feb 1789
Marriage place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul
Spouse's first name(s) William
Spouse's last name Swann
Spouse's residence Sheffield
Father's first name(s) -
Spouse's father's first name(s) -
County Yorkshire (West Riding)
Country England
Archive reference PR-138-3-7
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Hi Margaret,
Just to clarify:
The marriage Safc has posted for you is for Thomas BRITTAIN (1st husband of Elizabeth Brittain (nee Taylor) who then married William Swann.
The marriage of Elizabeth Wilson (which I posted previously was to Thomas SWANN (brother of William Swann)
Best Wishes
Tiggit
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Hi Tiggit
Thanks for this. not a possibility I had thought of.
Best wishes
Jill
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