Hi Tiggit Thanks for this. not a possibility I had thought of. Best wishes Jill
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Hi Margaret,
Just to clarify:
The marriage Safc has posted for you is for Thomas BRITTAIN (1st husband of Elizabeth Brittain (nee Taylor) who then married William Swann.
The marriage of Elizabeth Wilson (which I posted previously was to Thomas SWANN (brother of William Swann)
Best Wishes Tiggit
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Hi Margaret
On fmp there is this transcription. You can then click on View Image to see the actual image of the document.
Yorkshire Marriages Transcription
Learn more Print View image Add to tree First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Brittain Residence Sheffield Marriage year 1789 Marriage date 13 Feb 1789 Marriage place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul Spouse's first name(s) William Spouse's last name Swann Spouse's residence Sheffield Father's first name(s) - Spouse's father's first name(s) - County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive reference PR-138-3-7 Page 12
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Hi Dear Alviegal. Thanks for this. Just wondering where you saw the info about the marriage of William Swann and Elizabeth Brittain. I haven't seen the marriage license stating widow. Where would I be able to find it? Hi Safc. Do you think this is a better bet for Thomas Swan for a marriage than to Elizabeth Willson as stated above? Many thanks Jill
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Thomas Brittain mentioned in the record of Thomas Brittain and Elizabeth Taylor Name Thomas Brittain Spouse's Name Elizabeth Taylor Event Date 06 Mar 1785 Event Place Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England
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Did you notice that Elizabeth Brittain is described as 'widow' on her marriage licence? He is a batchelor. Witnesses were George Eyre and Amos Elliott.
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Dear Tiggit. Many thanks for all the leads which look very promising. Still trying to connect Elizabeth Brittain who married William Swann to see if there is also a connection with that branch of the Brittain family. So far we have been unable to find Elizabeth Brittains parents or siblings. Any help much appreciated. Best wishes Jill
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A possibility perhaps??
Marriage:
Place (with link) Peak Forest Church name (with link) King Charles the Martyr Register type (with link) Unspecified Marriage date 24 Nov 1742 Groom forename Thomas Groom surname SWANN Bride forename Ann Bride surname MARSDEN Transcribed by Trevor Moody Credit Trevor Moody File line number 691
Possiblly your William Swann??:
Baptism for William Swann County Derbyshire Place (with link) Chelmorton Church name (with link) St John Register type (with link) Unspecified Baptism date 10 Jun 1756 Person forename William Person sex M Father forename Thomas Mother forename Anne Father surname SWAN Person abode King Sterndale Transcribed by Trevor Moody Credit Trevor Moody File line number 3448
Brother for William Swann??
County Derbyshire Place (with link) Chelmorton Church name (with link) St John Register type (with link) Unspecified Baptism date 4 Mar 1747 Person forename Thomas Person sex M Father forename Thomas Mother forename Anne Father surname SWANN Person abode King Sterndale Transcribed by Trevor Moody Credit Trevor Moody File line number 3417
Possible marriage for brother Thomas:
County Derbyshire Place (with link) Tideswell Church name (with link) St John Register type (with link) Parish Register Marriage date 17 Apr 1770 Groom forename Thomas Groom surname SWAN Groom parish Tideswell Groom condition Bachelor Groom occupation Baker Bride forename Elizabeth Bride surname WILLSON Bride parish Tideswell Bride condition Spinster Transcribed by Trevor Moody Credit Trevor Moody File line number 1176
Possible child for this couple:
County Derbyshire Place (with link) Chelmorton Church name (with link) St John Register type (with link) Unspecified Baptism date 14 Apr 1780 Person forename Ann Person sex F Father forename Thomas Mother forename Elizabeth Father surname SWANN Person abode King Sterndale Transcribed by Trevor Moody Credit Trevor Moody File line number 3510
Same Ann Swann as posted above who married Samuel Brittian making her the niece of William Swann??
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Hi Maddie, Thank you for your info. I will go through in detail to check for connections. Regards Jill
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Samuel Brittain Spouse's Name Ann Swann Event Date 04 Sep 1801 Event Place Chelmorton, Derbyshire, England Citing this Record
"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch
Ann Swann Gender Female Christening Date 14 Apr 1780 Christening Date (Original) 14 APR 1780 Christening Place CHELMORTON, DERBY, ENGLAND Father's Name Thomas Swann Mother's Name Eliza Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
Saml. Brittain Gender Male Christening Date 23 Apr 1779 Christening Date (Original) 23 APR 1779 Christening Place CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Brittain Mother's Name Eliz. Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
1851 Samuel Brittain Age 72 Estimated Birth Year abt 1779 Relation Wifes Father Gender Male Where born Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish Eldon Street Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps 13216 Town Sheffield County/Island Yorkshire Country England Registration district Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel 1p Household schedule number 100 Piece 2337 Folio 212 Page number 27 Household Members Name Age Robert Bingham 34 Ann Swann Bingham 30 Elizabeth Ann Bingham 1 Samuel Brittain 72 Sarah Wade 21 Mary Ann Hattersley
John Brittain Gender Male Christening Date 23 Apr 1753 Christening Date (Original) 23 APR 1753 Christening Place CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name John Brittain Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
fathers marriage John Brittain Gender Male Marriage Date 27 May 1749 Marriage Place Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England Spouse Martha Padley FHL Film Number 919325 Household Members Name Age John Brittain Martha Padley
John Britain Gender Male Christening Date 02 May 1727 Christening Date (Original) 02 MAY 1727 Christening Place CATHEDRAL SAINT PETER,SHEFFIELD,YORK,ENGLAND Father's Name Natll. Britain Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch
Martha Last name Padley Birth year - Baptism year 1729 Baptism date 02 May 1729 Baptism place Sheffield, Cathedral Church of St Peter & St Paul Dedication St Peter & St Paul Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Adam Mother's first name(s) - County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive reference PR-138-1-6
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Hi, I wonder if anyone can help with getting me further back than these 3rd Great Grandparents. They are buried together in Ecclesfield church Yorkshire with date of death on the stone and recorded - William 26/3/1849 aged 92 and Elizabeth 24/7/1829 age 73.
Marriage in Cathedral St Peter Sheffield 13 Feb 1789 3 children. Harriott 1790, Elizabeth 1792 ( my 2nd GGM) and William 1796
Only 1841 census for William living at Dykes Hall Wadsley Yorkshire. Says not born in Yorkshire but not saying where.
I was researching this some time ago and seem to think William was born in Derbyshire either Chelmorton, Tideswell, Wormhill or Ticknell. IGI has two possibles but don't want to presume.
Wife Elizabeth Brittain I think came from Sheffield. I know I have put Joseph Brittain as father and some siblings but with nothing positive to go on except a christening of Betty Brittain for the right date in Sheffield cathedral father Joseph.
I visited Sheffield archives a couple of years ago and found papers of William Swann. There was a balance sheet of the late William Swann and mentioned are Jane Brittain, Ann Brittain and Samuel Swann Brittain is a trustee. I can only think these are his wife's family and could her family be traced through these names .
I have started 2 other trees Swann and Brittain on Ancestry but cannot connect anyone. I have put names in for ancestors of William and Elizabeth with no certainty.
We have 2 trees ourselves one private and one public called Jill Hawkins.
Some people also have them on their trees but they cannot get back also.
Does anyone know why when William Swann left money £2,700 he is not mentioned in the wills?
Thank you and best wishes
Jill Hawkins
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