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15 Jul 2018 08:53 |
I am Looking for Information relating to James Pennington b1844 son of James Pennington 1803 and Mary Flood 1861 and 1871 census show him with James and Mary and sister Anne and possibly a boarder in 1881 census at 5 Wilfred Street but can't find a marriage or confirm his whereabouts after 1881
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ArgyllGran
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15 Jul 2018 12:01 |
Looks like a previous child of the same name died in infancy:
Birth: PININGTON, JAMES mms FLOOD GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 711
Death: PININGTON, JAMES 0 GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 542
Birth of the second one:
PINNINGTON, JAMES mms FLOOD GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 20 Page 820
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15 Jul 2018 12:07 |
For our reference:
James Pennington in the 1881 England Census Name: James Pennington Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relationship to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Rainford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Windle County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 5 Wilfred Street Occupation: Carter Registration district: Prescot ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: Piece: 3732 Folio: 58 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Jackson 54 Sarah Jackson 52 Henry Burgess 57 James Pennington 37
James Pennington in the 1871 England Census Name: James Pennington Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Mother's name: Mary Pennington Gender: Male Where born: St Helens Civil Parish: Windle Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 269 Piece: 3863 Folio: 85 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Mary Pennington 67 - widow James Pennington 25 - unmarried Ann Dearden 30 - daughter, married
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15 Jul 2018 12:08 |
Have we looked at this family before? The names Pennington and Dearden seem very familiar.
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Yes, here it is - from a different angle:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1371398
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15 Jul 2018 12:13 |
???
James Pennington in the Web: UK, Coal Mining Accidents and Deaths Index, 1700-1950 Name: James Pennington Birth Year: abt 1844 Event Type: Death Event Year: 1882 Death Age: 38 Death Date: 6 Jan 1882 Death Place: Haydock, Lancashire, England Occupation: Bricksetter Colliery: New Boston Owner: Richard Evans and Co Notes: Inspection made. When descending the shaft he fell from the cage. He was subject to fits and it is supposed he had one on this occasion.
Well, not unless he kept changing his occupation. In 1861 and 1871 he's a glass cutter. The boarder James in 1881 is a carter.
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There were four James Pinington/Pinningtons born in Prescot in 1843-5. Two of them died 1843-4. But that still leaves two to confuse!
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15 Jul 2018 14:33 |
I know that the 1861 and 1871 census information is correct but following that I'm not sure as you say there is more than one James Pennington born c1844
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15 Jul 2018 14:54 |
A possibility for his death ??:
Deaths Mar 1888 (>99%) PENNINGTON James 45 Prescot 8b 480
Other records relating to that death:
James Pennington in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1986 Name: James Pennington Birth Year: abt 1843 Death Age: 45 Burial Date: 5 Mar 1888 Burial Parish: Prescot, St Mary, Lancashire, England Register Type: Parish Register Reference Number: PR 3404/1/54
Abode: Whiston Union
James Pennington in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name: James Pennington Gender: Male Age: 45 Birth Date: 1843 Burial Date: 5 Mar 1888 Burial Place: Prescot, Lancashire, England FHL Film Number: 1657598 Reference ID: Pg61 Ln485
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15 Jul 2018 15:02 |
He's still a glass cutter in 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 50, Grant Street, St Helens, Prescot, Lancashire, England
James Pennington Head Married Male 56 1845 St Helens, Lancashire, England Glass Cutter (Sheet) Ann Pennington Wife Married Female 52 1849 Liverpool, Lancashire, England - Irene Hosker Niece Single Female 4 1897 St Helens, Lancashire, England
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15 Jul 2018 15:12 |
His age is out on the 1891:
Name: James Pennington Gender: Male Age: 42 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1849 Spouse: Ann Pennington Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston Residence Place: St Helens, Eccleston, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: St Helens ED, Institution or Vessel: 15 Neighbors: Piece: 3021 Folio: 99 Household Members: Name Age
James Pennington 42 Glass cutter St Helens Lancs Ann Pennington 42 Liverpool, Lancs Jane Beddow single 19 Sister-in-law, tailoress, St Helens Lancs
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15 Jul 2018 15:14 |
NO, forget that 1888 death.
Some dodgy YOB's, but this looks like him - - - -
James Pennington in the Lancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: James Pennington (glass cutter ) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Gender: Male Age: 24 Birth Year: abt 1847 Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 2 Jul 1871 Parish: Eccleston, Christ Church, Lancashire, England Spouse: Ann Boddow Spouse Age: 22 Father: James Pennington , miner <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse Father: William Boddow Register Type: Parish Register
Jas. Pinnington in the 1881 England Census Name: Jas. Pinnington [Jas. Pennington] Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Ann Pinnington Gender: Male Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston in Prescot County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 50 Grant Street Marital Status: Married Occupation: Sheet Glass Cutter <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration district: Prescot Sub registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 14a Neighbors: Piece: 3735 Folio: 23 Page Number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Jas. Pinnington 36 Ann Pinnington 32
James Pennington in the 1891 England Census Name: James Pennington Gender: Male Age: 42 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1849 Spouse: Ann Pennington Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Eccleston Residence Place: St Helens, Eccleston, Lancashire, England Sub registration district: St Helens ED, Institution or Vessel: 15 Neighbors: Piece: 3021 Folio: 99 Household Members: Name Age James Pennington 42 - glass cutter <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ann Pennington 42 Jane Beddow 19
James Pennington in the 1901 England Census Name: James Pennington Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Ann Pennington Birth Place: St Helens, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: St Helen Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul and St Thomas Town: St Helen County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Prescot Sub-registration district: St Helens ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: Piece: 3522 Folio: 10 Page Number: 11 Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age James Pennington 56 - glass cutter <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ann Pennington 52 Jene Hosker 4 - niece
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15 Jul 2018 15:19 |
Ann's death ??
Deaths Dec 1908 (>99%) PENNINGTON Ann 60 Prescot 8b 470
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15 Jul 2018 15:22 |
No- Ann's still living:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 40 Boundary Road St Helens, St Helens, Lancashire, England
Richard Hosker Head Married Male 41 1870 St Helens Lancs Glass Bottle Finisher Jane Hosker Wife Married Female 39 1872 St Helens Lancs - Jane Hosker Daughter - Female 14 1897 St Helens Lancs Shop Girl And Cashier Peter Hosker Son - Male 11 1900 St Helens Lancs School Ann Hosker Daughter - Female 8 1903 St Helens Lancs School Lena Hosker Daughter - Female 5 1906 St Helens Lancs School Ann Pennington Sister In Law Widow Female 62 1849 Prescot Lancs Assisting At Home
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15 Jul 2018 15:24 |
Possible death for James:
First name(s) JAMES Last name PENNINGTON Gender Male Birth year 1846 Age 59 Death quarter 1 Death year 1905 District Prescot County Lancashire Volume 8B Page 483 Country England
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15 Jul 2018 15:25 |
In that case (ie - Ann a widow in 1911) , two possible deaths for James, though none quite match a YOB of 1844.
EDIT: sorry, slip of the finger - I meant 1845 )
The 1905 death is nearest:
Deaths Mar 1905 (>99%) Pennington James 59 Prescot 8b 483
Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%) PENNINGTON James 60 Prescot 8b 453
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15 Jul 2018 15:32 |
You posted his birth above- it was 1845 2nd qtr (matches 1905 1st qtr death):
First name(s) JAMES Last name PINNINGTON Birth year 1845 Birth quarter 2 Mother's maiden name Flood District Prescot County Lancashire Volume 20 Page 820
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15 Jul 2018 15:39 |
Possible death for Ann:
Name: Ann Pennington Death Age: 87 Birth Date: abt 1849 Registration Date: Jun 1936 Registration district: St Helens Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 746
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15 Jul 2018 17:49 |
Thank you so much for all the research, I get lots of help from the community and really appreciate it.
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