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Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	17 Jun 2018 19:28
	Assuming he married in Derbyshire, there are a number of John Hollis marriages 1902-22. If he married in Mansfield, this looks like a possibility: Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%) Hollis John Pitkin Mansfield 7b 188 Pitkin Ehtel E Hollis Mansfield 7b 188 Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%) Hollis Ethel E 33 Mansfield 7b 115 One child born: Births Sep 1914 (>99%) Hollis Owen J (mms Pitkin) Mansfield 7b 183
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 19:29
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Both of John's marriages posted earlier Looks as though Ethel died not long after having their child This looks to be Ellen's death Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%) Hollis Ethel E 33 Mansfield 7b 115 Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Sep 1914 (>99%) Hollis Owen J Pitkin Mansfield 7b 183 Owen J died Nottingham 1990
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,291 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	17 Jun 2018 19:31
	Possible marriage of Owen: Marriages Dec 1940 (>99%) Hollis Owen J Thomas Chesterfield 7b 2805 Thomas Miriam I Hollis Chesterfield 7b 2805
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Riley54	Report	17 Jun 2018 19:53
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	So presumably Pitkin is the first marriage and Knights the second Can I ask how you use the GRO site. I went onto the main page then on the right hand side to "Know your Ancestor better" and then followed the link to the FreeBMD site. I'm sorry this is new to me and I'm not that brilliant with technology Thank you
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 20:04
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: George William Hollis Gender: Male Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1878 Baptism Place: Tibshelf, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Wm a Miner Abode - Tibshelf Note in margin which I think belongs to his entry - Received July 14 1878 (Private Baptism) -------------------------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Emily Hollis Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1880 Baptism Place: Tibshelf, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Abode - Tibshelf. Wm a Miner ---------------------------------- Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Robert Hollis Baptism Date: 7 Apr 1882 Baptism Place: Tibshelf, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis - a Miner Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Abode - Tibshelf ----------------------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: John Hollis Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1884 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England s/o Wm and Mary Ann of Blackwell. Wm a Collier ----------------------------------------- not seeing James or Charles Henry ------------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Francis Edwin Hollis Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1890 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England s/o Wm and Mary Ann. Wm a Miner Living at Newton Born Sept 5th ---------------------------------- Name: Ada Mary Ann Hollis Baptism Date: 7 Aug 1892 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England d/o Wm and Mary Ann. Wm a Miner Living at Newton Born July 7th ------------------------------ View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Joseph Hollis Baptism Date: 16 Sep 1894 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England s/o Wm and Mary Ann Wm a Miner Abode Newton Born August 19th ------------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Rachel Hollis Birth Date: 6 Sep Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1896 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis a Miner Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Of Newton Born Sept 6th --------------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Lucy Ellen Hollis Age: 0 Birth Date: 5 Jan 1898 Baptism Date: 6 Feb 1898 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis a Miner Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Of Newton ----------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Owen Hollis Baptism Date: 5 Feb 1899 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis a collier Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Abode - Newton --------------------------------- View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1916 Name: Lydie Hollis Birth Date: 8 Jan Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1901 Baptism Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis a Miner Mother: Mary Ann Hollis Abode Newton ---------------------------
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 20:10
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates (apologies cut the url off too early before) Register or Login - Register initially and then you can just login each time you use. you can only look for births and deaths using this site but you will get mmn from Q3 1837 to1917 when this site ends at present and age at death Q3 1837 - 1957 Only problem is the site gives age at death in years BUT it can't distinguish weeks/months so if you know a child died at 2 months old it would show as 2 years! You can order birth and death certificates through the site at a reduced cost of £6 if you're happy with a pdf version to download yourself. For bmd's Q3 1837 to c 1970's use https://www.freebmd.org.uk/search gives mmn fro Q3 1911 and age at death from c1866
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	17 Jun 2018 20:30
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	Looking back on this post, I noticed that in the 1881 census I posted ( 16 Jun 2018 22:01) for William Hollis and Emily MS Meredith, there is this young boy. John G Carbury Grand Son Single Male 3 1878 Blackwell, Derbyshire, England - Transcription This is his birth CARBERY, JOHN GEORGE HOLLIS Order GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 64 and sadly, he dies 3rd qtr 1881. But these look to be his parents James and Emma Carberry who are witnesses to the marriage of William Hollis and Mary Ann Green which means William and Emma were siblings. Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%) BLOWER William Henry Mansfield 7b 93 >>CARBERRY James Mansfield 7b 93 >>Hollis Emma Mansfield 7b 93 Robinson Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 93 His parents in 1881 with new baby, Charles Edmund, who was born beginning of 1881 so maybe John G was sent to his grandparents for a wee while. 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 41, St Thomas Row, Tibshelf (Derby), Mansfield, Derbyshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation James Carbury Head Married Male 30 1851 Chapeltown, Yorkshire, England Coal Miner Transcription Emma Carbury Wife Married Female 22 1859 Besthorpe, Nottinghamshire, England Coal Miners Wife Transcription Charles E Carbury Son Single Male 0 1881 Tibshelf, Derbyshire, England Coal Miners Son
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 20:38
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Marriages Emily and John- already posted Page 1 James - Charles Henry - possibly not, see 1939 register posts Francis Edwin - ------------------------------- Name: Ada Mary Ann Hollis Gender: Female Marriage Age: 20 Birth Date: abt 1893 Marriage Date: 23 Apr 1913 Marriage Place: Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis Spouse: Fred Spiers Fred 32 a Miner, of Shirebrook. Father John Edward Spiers (can't read occupation) Ada of Shirebrook, Father a Miner Married by Banns both signed Witnesses - Thomas Wainman and Sarah Elizabeth Shackleton ------------------------------------- Name: Rachel Hollis Gender: Female Marriage Age: 19 Birth Date: abt 1895 Marriage Date: 21 Sep 1914 Marriage Place: Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England Father: William Hollis Spouse: Arthur Riley witnesses - Joseph Devey and Phyllis Myers Arthur 23 a Collier Bachelor of Shirebrook. Father John Riley ? occupation Rachel Spinster of Shirebrook Father William Hollis a Miner
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Riley54	Report	17 Jun 2018 21:03
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Thank you for all of that information I do appreciate it.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 21:08
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	?? Hollis Household (2 People) 190 Station Road , Blackwell R.D., Derbyshire, England FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Charles H Hollis 22 Jun 1888 Male Gas Stoker Single 75 1 Elizabeth Clark 20 Jul 1894 Female Domestic Service Married 75
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 21:14
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Hall Household (5 People) 96 Market Street , Blackwell R.D., Derbyshire, England FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Emily Hall 02 Jul 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 230 2 Bertie Hall 12 May 1878 Male Colliery Underground Timber And Ripper Heavy Work Invalide Married 230 1 Frank E Hall 20 Nov 1915 Male Colliery Pony Driver Underground Heavy Worker Single 230 3 Dorothy Hughes (Hall) 12 Nov 1918 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 230 4 Alec Hall 05 Mar 1920 Male Colliery Underground Haulage Hand Heavy Work Single 230 5 Looks on original as though it's Emily who's the invalid - would Bertie be one with that occupation !!
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Jun 2018 21:19
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Spiers Household (2 People) 12 North Street , Warsop U.D., Nottinghamshire, England FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER Ada M Spiers 07 Jul 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 12 2 Fred Spiers 11 Apr 1881 Male Colliery Hewer (Below) Married 12 1
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Riley54	Report	17 Jun 2018 22:07
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Yes I think you are right Emily will be the invalid and most probably Dorothy the daughter is the helper in the home because she has no occupation. Thank you
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	18 Jun 2018 14:12
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	The burials of the 6 children View Derbyshire, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1991 Name: George William Hollis Age: 1 Birth Year: 1879 Burial Date: 14 Mar 1880 Burial Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Abode - Newton ---------------------------------- Name: Robert Hollis Age: 2 Birth Year: abt 1882 Burial Date: 12 May 1884 Burial Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Abode - Blackwell ---------------------------------- Joseph Hollis Age: 5/12 Birth Year: abt 1894 Burial Date: 9 Jan 1895 Burial Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Abode - Newton ----------------------------- Name: Lucy Ellen Hollis Age: 22/12 Birth Year: abt 1898 Burial Date: 22 Nov 1899 Burial Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Abode - Newton ------------------------ Name: Owen Hollis Age: 3/12 Birth Year: abt 1899 Burial Date: 13 Apr 1899 Burial Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Abode - Newton --------------------- Name: Lydia Hollis Age: 4/12 - .............(original says 11 months, baptised Feb. 1901) Birth Year: abt 1901 Burial Date: 6 Jan 1902 Burial Place: Blackwell, Derbyshire, England Abode - Newton
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Riley54	Report	19 Jun 2018 09:00
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 43 Send Message	Thank you for all of that information. It's all been very helpful

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