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Census for York 1891

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Frances

Frances Report 15 Jun 2018 09:54

Thank you EricaH, that is my William, whom I have now determined was born March 1860 and, it would appear from the census, that he and Annie Louisa had no children.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2018 16:51

Name: Annie L Wells
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Relationship: Wife
Birth Year: 1865
Spouse: William Wells
Birth Place: Barugh, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Acomb
Residence Place: Acomb, Acomb, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Poppleton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 1
Piece: 3517
Folio: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 31
Annie L Wells 26




Name: Annie Louisa Ells
[Annie Louisa Hawkins]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: William Wells
Father: Thomas Hawkins
Mother: Mary Anna Hawkins
Birth Place: Barugh, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Dringhouses
Ecclesiastical parish: Dringhouses
Town: Dringhouses
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Micklegate
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 4444
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 41
Annie Louisa Ells 36
Thomas Hawkins 63
Mary Anna Hawkins 60


Name: Annie Louisa Hawkins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Apr 1865
Baptism Place: Darton, All Saints, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Darton, All Saints
Father: Thomas Hawkins
Mother: Mary Anne Hawkins

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2018 16:47

WELLS, ALFRED HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 46


WELLS, EMILY ANN HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 30 Order

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2018 16:45

Can't work out exactly who you're looking for......

Which William is your PROVEN ancestor?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 13 Jun 2018 16:43

WELLS, WILLIAM LAWYER Order
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 40 Order

WELLS, WILLIAM HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 33 Order

WELLS, WILLIAM PERRY Order
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in OF YORK Volume 09D Page 26

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 12 Jun 2018 18:37

Not sure what you mean about William being the only brother to Walter? What about Alfred?

It would help if you could confirm if the 1881 census posted is your family (parents William and Mary J).

Yorkshire Marriages

name(s) Alfred Wells (Fitter)
Age 23
Birth year 1868
Residence Hull
Marriage year 1891
Marriage date 03 Aug 1891
Marriage place York, St Thomas
Spouse's name(s) Leavinia Sophia Ascough
Spouse's age 23
Spouse's residence 81 Lowther St
Father's name(s) William Wells (Confectioner's salesman)
Spouse's father's name(s) William Ascough (House painter & decorator)
County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)

Witnesses: William Ascough & Emily A Wells
--------------------------------

Alfred in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Havelock Villa, 6, Havelock Street, Sculcoates, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Alfred Wells Head Married Male 32 1869 York, Yorkshire, Marine Engine Fitter
Leavina Sophia Wells Wife Married Female 33 1868 Ripon, Yorkshire, England -
Dorothy Wells Daughter Single Female 8 1893 Hull, Yorkshire, England -
Kate Wells Daughter Single Female 7 1894 Hull, Yorkshire, England -
George Wells Son Single Male 5 1896 Hull, Yorkshire, England -
William Wells Son Single Male 2 1899 Hull, Yorkshire, England
----------------------

EDIT: Think I have misread your post (-William being only the brother of Walter- and not as I read- William, the only brother!)

Frances

Frances Report 12 Jun 2018 18:03

Hi all again, marriage certificate for William c.1860 to Annie Elizabeth Taylor gives father's name as Daniel so wannabe cousin is, after one day, no longer a cousin so my William Wells 1860 is obviously the other one and I need to go through all your posts again to see who my William 1960 actually married! Annie Louisa Hawkins is now favourite but as we are being back to William being only the brother to my grandfather Walter the heat is off!
Again thanks for all your help and I will now go to sleep happy thinking Annie Louisa Hawkins is the lucky lady!

Maddie

Maddie Report 12 Jun 2018 11:10

?????????
WELLS, WALTER HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in OF YORK IN THE CITY AND COUNTY OF

is this correct
parents william and mary j

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 12 Jun 2018 08:56

Sorry, AQ - I hadn't noticed your earlier post about the two marriages.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 12 Jun 2018 06:42

FMP 1881 (already posted)- occupation and age for William fit with above census for William and Annie- :

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Whitby Terrace, Gate Fulford, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

William Wells Head Married Male 47 1834 Yorkshire, England Confectioners Shopman
Mary J Wells Wife Married Female 45 1836 Yorkshire, England
William Wells Son Single Male 21 1860 Yorkshire, England Clerk Railway *
Mary J Wells Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Yorkshire, England Dressmaker
Emily A Wells Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Yorkshire, England Milliner
Alfred Wells Son Single Male 12 1869 Yorkshire, England Scholar
Louisa Wells Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Yorkshire, England Scholar
-------------------------------

Is this 1881 census your family Frances? Can I ask why you don't think the William Wells/ Annie Louisa Hawkins marriage is correct?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 12 Jun 2018 06:33

I had already posted that marriage above and another with father William, but Frances doesn't think they are correct- I'm not sure all the information has been looked at though.

Again for ref:

Marriage: Father listed as William

name(s) William Wells (confectioner)
Age 22
Marriage date 1882
Marriage place York
Father's name(s) William Wells (brush maker)
Spouse's name(s) Amy Poole
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's birth date 1863
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Poole
Residence York, Yorkshire, England

Above marriage not correct- that is for this William:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Long Close Lane, St George, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

William Wells Head Married Male 62 1819 York, Yorkshire, Brush Maker
Eliza Wells Wife Married Female 63 1818 York, Yorkshire, England
William Wells Son Single Male 20 1861 York, Yorkshire, England Confectioner
----------------------------

Marriage: father listed as William (transcription- can't see original- but see census below- it seems to fit)

name(s) William Wells
Age 23
Marriage date 25 Jun 1883
Marriage place York
Father's name(s) William Wells
Spouse's name(s) Annie Louisa Hawkins
Spouse's birth date 1865
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Hawkins
Residence York, York, England

Census for above couple:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Severns Street, Acomb, Great Ouseburn, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

William Wells Head Married Male 31 1860 Yorkshire, England Railway Clerk *
Annie L Wells Wife Married Female 26 1865 Yorkshire, England
-------------------------

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Poplars, Dringhouse the Moor, Dringhouses Without (York Wr), York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

William Wells Head Married Male 41 1860 York, Yorkshire, England Clerk *
Annie Louisa Wells Wife Married Female 36 1865 Barugh, Yorkshire,
Thomas Howkins Father-In-Law Married Male 63 1838 Yorkshire, Living On Means
Mary Anna Howkins Mother-In-Law Married Female 60 1841 Pontefract, Yorkshire,

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2018 18:08

Of course, there's also this marriage:

William Wells
in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988
Name: William Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1860
Marriage Date: 25 Mar 1882
Marriage Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Father: William Wells
Spouse: Amy Poole



William Wells
in the 1891 England Census
Name: William Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1861
Spouse: Amy Wells
Child: Beatrice A Wells
Eliza C Wells
Elizabeth A Wells
William Wells
Walter Wells
Birth Place: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St George
Residence Place: St George, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Walmgate
ED, Institution or Vessel: 16
Neighbors:
Piece: 3893
Folio: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 30
Amy Wells 28
Beatrice A Wells 8
Eliza C Wells 6
Elizabeth A Wells 4
William Wells 3
Walter Wells 10/12

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2018 18:00

Your William (if this is the right family) had left home by 1891. That would fit in with possibly having married in 1882:


Alfred Wells
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Alfred Wells
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1889
[1869]
Father: William Wells
Mother: Mary Jane Wells
Birth Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: St Lawrence
Residence Place: York, St Lawrence, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Walmgate
ED, Institution or Vessel: 22
Neighbors:
Piece: 3893
Folio: 135
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 57
Mary Jane Wells 55
Emily A Wells 24
Alfred Wells 2
Louisa Wells 20


Have you found your William in 1891?

Is there any reason why he could not be the one who married Annie Taylor?

EDIT:
Oh yes, I see Annie's husband's father was Daniel.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2018 17:59

William Wells
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William Wells
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Wells
Mother: Mary J. Wells
Gender: Male
Where born: New Fulford, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 12 Whitby Ter
Occupation: Clerk Railway
Registration district: York
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors:
Piece: 4726
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 47
Mary J. Wells 45
William Wells 21
Mary J. Wells 19
Emily A. Wells 14
Alfred Wells 12
Louisa Wells 10

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2018 17:57

Is this your family? (1861 already posted by Andy)

William Wells
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Wells
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J Wells
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Gate Fulford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 275
Piece: 4753
Folio: 51
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wells 38
Mary J Wells 36
Walter Wells 16
William Wells 11
Mary J Wells 9
Emily L Wells 4
Alfred Wells 2
Louisa Wells 10 Months


But you said nothing suggested was your family ?
Or have I misunderstood?

Frances

Frances Report 11 Jun 2018 17:30

Sorry guys but none of your offerings seem to match my family and for ArgyllGran I can tell you that the main family line is through the eldest of William 1833's children, my grandfather, Walter 1854

Thanks for all your efforts,
Frances

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jun 2018 17:18

How did you find your William's YOB of c1860?

Who was his brother in your main line?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Jun 2018 16:40

Marriage: Father listed as William

name(s) William Wells (confectioner)
Age 22
Marriage date 1882
Marriage place York
Father's name(s) William Wells (brush maker)
Spouse's name(s) Amy Poole
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's birth date 1863
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Poole
Residence York, Yorkshire, England
----------------------------

Marriage: father listed as William (transcription- can't see original)

name(s) William Wells
Age 23
Marriage date 25 Jun 1883
Marriage place York
Father's name(s) William Wells
Spouse's name(s) Annie Louisa Hawkins
Spouse's birth date 1865
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Hawkins
Residence York, York, England

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 11 Jun 2018 16:38

Marriage: Father listed as Daniel

name(s) William Wells
Age 23
Birth year 1859
Residence Redness ST
Marriage year 1882
Marriage date 06 Mar 1882
Marriage place York, St Cuthbert
Spouse's name(s) Annie Elizabeth Taylor
Spouse's age 21
Spouse's residence Warwick St
Father's name(s) Daniel Wells
Spouse's father's name(s) Thomas Taylor
County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)

Maddie

Maddie Report 11 Jun 2018 14:46

WELLS, WILLIAM LAWYER Order ( Sawyer ???)
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 40

WELLS, WILLIAM HODGSON Order
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in YORK Volume 09D Page 33

1861
2, Redeness Street, St Cuthbert, York, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Daniel Wells Head Married Male 33 1828 Joiner Durham, England
Transcription
Mary A Wells Wife Married Female 30 1831 - Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Thomas Wells Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Elizabeth Wells Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Transcription
Sarah Wells Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Yorkshire, England
Transcription
William Wells Son - Male 1 1860 - Yorkshire, England



William
Last name Wells
Baptism year 1860
Birth year -
County Yorkshire (Ainsty & City of York)
Country England
Baptism place York, St Cuthbert
Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann
Father's first name(s) Daniel
Baptism date 23 Dec 1860

Name: Daniel Wells
Registration Year: 1852
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: York
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 38
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Ann Sawyer

so rules out the sawyer birt

WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1854
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM WELLS married one of these people
Mary Jane Hodgson, Elizabeth Housham

goes with the above posted census by Andrew

and this
WILLIAM
Last name WELLS
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1848
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM WELLS married one of these people
Mary Dixon, Frances Andrews, Eliza Perry
District York
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 23
Volume as transcribed 23
Page number 603