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Maddie
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4 Jun 2018 13:22 |
I would be grateful for help in finding peter after 1861. Util then he had been living with his parents george and mary in Pudsey.
I have found 2 later census that may relate him but with diffferent wives 1871 Name Peter Schoffield Age 33 Estimated Birth Year abt 1838 Relation Head Spouse's Name Catherine Schoffield Gender Male Where born Pudsey, Yorkshire, England Civil parish Batley Ecclesiastical parish Parish Church Town Batley County/Island Yorkshire Country England Registration district Dewsbury Sub-registration district Batley ED, institution, or vessel 8 Household schedule number 199 Piece 4582 Folio 39 Page number 34 Household Members Name Age Peter Schoffield 33 Catherine Schoffield 35 Sarah A Schoffield 5 George Schoffield 1
possible marriage Peter Schofield Gender Male Marriage Date 11 Jun 1863 Marriage Place Morven,Argyll,Scotland Spouse Cathrine Macphee FHL Film Number 6035516 Household Members Name Age Peter Schofield Cathrine Macphee
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1901 30, Middle Road, Dewsbury, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Richard Oates Head Married Male 56 1845 Yorkshire, England Coal Dealer Transcription Mary Ann Oates Wife Married Female 60 1841 Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England - Transcription Peter Scholefield Lodger Married Male 64 1837 Yorkshire, England Small Ware Hawker image says pudsey or leeeds Transcription Hannah Scholefield Lodger Married Female 49 1852 - Small Ware Hawker
your help would be appreciated thank you Maddie
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malyon
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4 Jun 2018 13:32 |
Peter Schofield England and Wales Census, 1891 Name: Peter Schofield Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 County: Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding) Parish: Bramley Ecclesiastical Parish: ST THOMAS Registration District: Bramley Residence Note: Melbourne Place Gender: Male Age: 53 Marital Status: Single Occupation: General Labourer Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder Birth Year (Estimated): 1838 Birthplace: Yorkshire, England Page Number: 36 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 3673/ 89 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Clara Seeker Daughter Female 4 Yorkshire, England George Thorpe Boarder Male 14 Yorkshire, England Fletcher Haisworth Boarder Male 53 Yorkshire, England Peter Schofield Boarder Male 53 Yorkshire, England
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Maddie
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4 Jun 2018 13:42 |
that census says he is single and born in Leeds is it the same man ??
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malyon
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4 Jun 2018 13:55 |
if he left his wife and children he could have said he was single
Event Date: 1841 Event Place: Calverley, Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding, England Residence Note: Fartown Gender: Male Age: 3 Age (Original): 3 Birth Year (Estimated): 1838 Birthplace: Yorkshire Registration District: Bradford Parish: Calverley County: Yorkshire,Yorkshire West Riding Page Number: 28 Registration Number: HO107 Piece/Folio: 1298/18 Affiliate Record Type: Household Household Role Sex Age Birthplace George Schofield Male 30-34 Yorkshire Mary Schofield Female 30-34 Yorkshire John Schofield Male 12 Yorkshire William Schofield Male 10 Yorkshire Benjamin Schofield Male 7 Yorkshire Peter Schofield Male 3 Yorkshire Martha Schofield Female 1 Yorkshire Richard Naylor Male 20-24 Yorkshire
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4 Jun 2018 14:51 |
SCHOFIELD, SARAH ANN MCPHEE Order GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in BRADFORD YORKSHIRE Volume 09B Page 227
SCHOFIELD, GEORGE MCFEE Order GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 519 Order
SCHOFIELD, GEORGE MCFEE Order GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 560
Possible death of the 1868 George SCHOFIELD, GEORGE 0 Order GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in DEWSBURY Volume 09B Page 430
the 1863 marriage has Peter as aged 24 usual residence Pudsey, Yorkshire Parents George and Mary nee Naylor
June 11th 1863 at Dorlin House, Morven after Banns according to the Forms of the Church of Scotland
Peter is a foreman over a gang of men at Readmaking a Bachelor. Father George is a Wool Dyer
Catherine is a Spinster aged 18 General Servant. Usual residence - Oransay, Morven Fathe Donald MacPhee Seaman deceased, Mother Catherine MacPhee, MS MacPhee (yes does say same as married name)
Witnesses - Donald Stewart and John MacLean
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4 Jun 2018 15:12 |
Just posting from FMP for places of birth
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Flemings Buildings, Batley, Dewsbury, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Peter Schoffield Head - Male 33 1838 -Pudsey, Yorkshire, Wool Finisher Catherine Schoffield Wife - Female 35 1836 - Scotland Sarah A Schoffield Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Pudsey, Yorkshire, England George Schoffield Son - Male 1 1870 - Batley, Yorkshire, England
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Could this be Sarah Ann? Family were in Batley by the time she was 5
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Back Upton Street, Batley, Dewsbury, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Timothy Schofield Head Married Male 51 1830 Birstall, Yorkshire, England Woolen Weaver Ann Schofield Wife Married Female 47 1834 Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Sarah Schofield Niece Single Female 15 1866 Batley, Yorkshire, England Rag Sorter (Woolen)
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Maddie
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4 Jun 2018 16:10 |
thank you greyghost, the marriage info supports the 1871 census
not sure about 1881 for sarah as i have not come across a timothy.
If that is not her the whole family has disappeared.
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Catherine
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4 Jun 2018 16:38 |
possible death??
Name: Peter Schofield Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Registration Year: 1907 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Dewsbury Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 428
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Maddie
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4 Jun 2018 16:41 |
thank you catherine probably is him but i can find no trace of the family after 1871 unless the 1891 posted my Malyon is him, his family have disappeared Maddie
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Catherine
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4 Jun 2018 16:56 |
I think this may be the Timory in 1881 census
Name: Timothy Scholefield Age: 3 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 21 Sep 1829 Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1832 Baptism Place: Birstall, St Peter, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Birstall, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Birstall, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: William Scholefield Mother: Elizabeth Scholefield
........... so not the same parents.
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AustinQ
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5 Jun 2018 08:21 |
Catherine and children in 1881:
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Charleston Row, 15, Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Catherine Shields Head Unmarried Female 29 1852 Ireland Printfield Worker Catherine Schofield Boarder Married Female 34 1847 Argyllshire, Scotland Printfield Worker Sarah Ann Schofield Boarder Unmarried Female 15 1866 England Printfield Worker George Schofield Boarder Unmarried Male 11 1870 England Printfield Worker Sophia Coyle Boarder Unmarried Female 36 1845 Ireland Printfield Worker Margaret Black Boarder - Female 15 1866 Ireland Printfield Worker ----------------------------
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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Main Street, Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Cath Schofield Head Married Female 44 1847 Argyllshire, Scotland Printfield Worker Sarah A Schofield Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1866 England Printfield Worker George Schofield Son Unmarried Male 21 1870 England Printfield Worker ---------------------------------
Catherine in 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 86, Alexander Street, Alexandria, Bonhill, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Catherine Schofield Head Widow Female 55 1846 Argyllshire, Scotland Annuitant --------------------------------
Catherine's death:
CATHERINE SCHOFIELD/ MCPHEE Age: 73 Year of death: 1919 Ref: 496/ 275 RD name: Dumbarton
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AustinQ
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5 Jun 2018 08:31 |
Sarah Ann Schofield married Adam Allen in 1894.
Sarah in 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 21, Castle Street, Dumberton, Dumbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland
Adam Allan Head Married Male 37 1864 Dumbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland Labourer Sarah Anne Allan Wife Married Female 34 1867 England -----------------------------
Sarah's death:
SARAH ANN ALLAN/ SCHOFIELD age: 65 Year of death: 1931 Ref: 496/ 208 RD Name: Dumbarton
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Maddie
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5 Jun 2018 11:08 |
thank you thats great so they went to scotland. I wondeer if Peter and Catherine split up
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ArgyllGran
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5 Jun 2018 11:51 |
As there's no sign of him with Catherine from somewhere between 1871 and 1881, it certainly looks as if they split up.
She's a bit ahead of herself in 1901, calling herself a widow, if the 1907 death for Peter (posted earlier) is the correct one. But if they hadn't been in touch for years, perhaps she thought he was dead. Presumably he might as well have been, as far as she was concerned.
He didn't die in Scotland, anyway.
The 1891 and 1901 censuses found earlier for Peter are probably the correct ones. As already mentioned, in 1891 he's says he's single and born Leeds. But Malyon's explanation is probably correct - he and Catherine had split up, so in effect he was single. Pudsey and Calverley are both very close to Leeds - near enough for census purposes.
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5 Jun 2018 12:10 |
thank you found this on family search Schofield Gender Female Birth Date 08 Mar 1864 Birthplace MORVEN,ARGYLL,SCOTLAND Father's Name Peter Schofield Mother's Name Catherine Macphee Citing this Record
can anyone find her name please Maddie "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch
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ArgyllGran
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5 Jun 2018 12:35 |
If you register with Scotlands People website, and buy a few credits (30 is the minimum you can buy, costing £7.50), you can view the image of the cert - but there's apparently no first name given. It would have been transcribed on SP if there was one.
Birth:
SCHOFIELD F 1864 528/ 12 Morvern
The child died in infancy, apparently without ever being named, poor wee thing:
Death:
SCHOFIELD ----- 1864 528/ 10 Morvern
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Maddie
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5 Jun 2018 12:42 |
oh how sad thank you so much Argyllgran
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ArgyllGran
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5 Jun 2018 12:52 |
Looks like Catherine in 1861.
I wonder how and where she met Peter ?
Catherine Mcphee in the 1861 Scotland Census Name: Catherine Mcphee Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relationship: Daughter Parent's Name: Catherine Mcphee Gender: Female Where born: Colonsay, Argyllshire Registration Number: 539/2 Registration district: Colonsay and Oronsay Civil Parish: Colonsay and Oronsay County: Argyll Address: 27 Kilchattan Occupation: Domestic Serv ED: 1 Household schedule number: 65 LINE: 1 Roll: CSSCT1861_72 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Mcphee 60 - crofter's wife Donald Mcphee 21 - ploughman Angus Mcphee 19 - agricultural labourer Catherine Mcphee 17 Ann Calder 28 - dressmaker (she's apparently another daughter)
I know Catherine's marriage cert says her father was a seaman - but he would have been basically a crofter. Crofters usually had (still have) other jobs, to supplement their income.
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Maddie
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5 Jun 2018 12:58 |
rather strange, Peter was a labouer in 1861 and a cloth finisher in 1871 so something must have taken him to Scotland :-)
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ArgyllGran
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5 Jun 2018 12:59 |
Catherine's father's death:
MCPHEE DONALD ----- 50 M 12/04/1851 539/2 20 36 Colonsay
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