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Riley54
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1 Jun 2018 10:18 |
I only have the mothers name for George which is Sarah Peace born 1798
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:33 |
Re Robin -
perhaps we need to go back to page 1, where Catherine posted the 1911 for Robin 1934's father Henry H Peace, whose father was a John William Peace.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:36 |
The family in 1901:
John W Peace in the 1901 England Census Name: John W Peace Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Henrietta Peace Birth Place: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Horninglow Ecclesiastical parish: Horninglow St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Burton upon Trent Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: Piece: 2646 Folio: 98 Page Number: 15 Household schedule number: 89 Household Members: Name Age John W Peace 40 Henrietta Peace 38 John W Peace 9 Dorothy M Peace 6 Herbert A Peace 2 Henry H Peace 1 Ada Elson 14
John Wm Peace in the 1891 England Census Name: John Wm Peace Gender: Male Age: 30 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1861 Spouse: Henrietta Peace Child: Elizabeth Peace Birth Place: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Horninglow Residence Place: Horninglow, Staffordshire, England Sub registration district: Burton upon Trent ED, Institution or Vessel: 37 Neighbors: Piece: 2205 Folio: 129 Household Members: Name Age John Wm Peace 30 Henrietta Peace 29 Elizabeth Peace 11/12
John W. Peace in the 1881 England Census Name: John W. Peace Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relationship to Head: Son Father: John Peace Mother: Elizth. Peace Gender: Male Where born: Burton On Trent Civil Parish: Horninglow County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Derby Rd Occupation: Accts Clerk Registration district: Burton Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: Piece: 2765 Folio: 59 Page Number: 42 Household Members: Name Age John Peace 47 Elizth. Peace 44 John W. Peace 20 Mary A. Peace 19 Henry L. Peace 17 Sarah Wardley 48
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:37 |
Not bothering to post 1871.
John William Pease in the 1861 England Census Name: John William Pease Age: 11/12 Estimated Birth Year: 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: John Pease Mother's name: Elizabeth Pease Gender: Male Where born: Burton-Upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Burton upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Burton upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Burton Upon Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 227 Piece: 1966 Folio: 41 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age John Pease 27 Elizabeth Pease 24 John William Pease 11/12
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1 Jun 2018 10:38 |
John W's parents' marriage:
John Peace in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 Name: John Peace Gender: Male Age: 25 Birth Date: abt 1834 Marriage Date: 3 Feb 1859 Marriage Place: Burton upon trent, Staffordshire, England Father: William Peace Spouse: Elizabeth Simnett
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:41 |
His father's baptism ??
John Peace
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 15 September 1833 HOLY TRINITY, BURTON UPON TRENT, STAFFORD, ENGLAND father: William Peace mother: Martha
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:43 |
John Peace in the 1851 England Census Name: John Peace Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Son Father's name: Wm Peace Mother's name: Martha Peace Gender: Male Where born: Burton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Burton upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Burton upon Trent County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Burton ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Neighbors: Household schedule number: 134 Piece: 2012 Folio: 220 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Wm Peace 44 - born Burton-on-Trent Martha Peace 42 Frances Peace 20 John Peace 17 Wm Josh Peace 12
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:50 |
Sigh - the more I look at the records, the more Staffordshire seems to have been over-run by various Peace families!
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AustinQ
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1 Jun 2018 13:49 |
Dermot- you mentioned Robin's funeral. Do you know the approximate year?
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Dea
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1 Jun 2018 14:12 |
It would appear to be this one Austin??
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Name: Robin Peace Death Age: 64 Birth Date: 17 Dec 1934 Registration Date: Jun 1999 Registration district: Nottingham Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Register Number: A69A District and Subdistrict: 6891A
I would certainly be tempted to buy that death cert.
Dea x
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1 Jun 2018 14:15 |
Sorry, I have lost track - who have you got related to George + Alice please ?
I know they are the grandparents of the 'sherrif of Nottingham' one but do we have them connected somewhere else ???
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AustinQ
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1 Jun 2018 14:18 |
I just thought it odd that Dermot had said birth around 1926.
1934 is quite a difference. That combined with this snippet- which would suggest there was an older Robin in Warsop Vale makes me wonder:
http://www.warsopvale.org/history3.htm
There have been some excellent sportsmen and celebrities within the village and sport in general has flourished throughout the years. The village was fortunate enough to have many stalwarts of football including Walter Millership who went to Bradford and then Sheffield Wednesday and played for England in the 1935 match against Scotland.
T. Cooke went to Mansfield along with Harry and Harold Everett who had previously been with Notts County, Jimmy West went to Rotherham and Bournemouth F.C. took J. Hayward and H. Hayward. H. Goddard went to Aston Villa, Lenny Thorpe and Robin Peace went to Nottingham Forest and Steve Unwin went to Notts County. At the end of the 1940-41 season no fewer than seven players went to the league clubs. ------------------------------
So I wondered if Dermot could remember the approximate year of the funeral
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Dea
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1 Jun 2018 14:24 |
Ahhhh.... Well done Austin !!!!!!!!!
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AustinQ
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1 Jun 2018 14:36 |
Thanks Dea- but it doesn't seem to help. I don't see any other reference to him as a footballer. Maybe Robin wasn't his real name? Or maybe Robin wasn't included in the seven that went to league teams before 1941?
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 15:23 |
I had wondered about this one earlier, but had dismissed it - if Robin wasn't his real name.
This one's a son of George and Alice:
Ronald S Peace in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Ronald S Peace Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 16 Mar 1925 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Residence Year: 1939 Address: 28 Cout North St Residence Place: Warsop, Nottinghamshire, England <<<<<<<<<< Occupation: Surface Screen Worker Schedule Number: 28 Sub Schedule Number: 4 Enumeration District: RNRE Registration district: 428-1 Inferred Father: George Peace Inferred Mother: Alice Peace Household Members: Name John W Peace Ronald S Peace Charles Stretton George Peace Alice Peace
Births Jun 1925 (>99%) Peace Ronald S (mms Stretton) Mansfield 7b 121
Ronald Stretton Peace in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ronald Stretton Peace Death Age: 79 Birth Date: 16 Mar 1925 Registration Date: Mar 2004 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Register Number: B33D District and Subdistrict: 687/1B
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 15:40 |
If that's him, then his brother John W was possibly the father of Sir John who was mentioned by the woman who was at Robin's funeral.
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Dea
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1 Jun 2018 15:56 |
I have been looking at him as a possible too AG and yes - his brother IS the father of 'the Sherrif' !!
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Riley54
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1 Jun 2018 16:25 |
Sorry I've been missing.
I said around 1926 because my Dad had told me he was a bit younger than him and Dad was born in 1928.
I can't remember the year he died unfortunately .
I will order the death certificate.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 16:26 |
He may have married in Mansield in 1953 (without his middle initial).
If so, his widow was living in Mansfield as at 2016 ER.
They had five children, all born in Mansfield, except the first, who was born in 1952.
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AustinQ
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1 Jun 2018 16:34 |
Dermot- you said:
"Dad had told me he was a bit younger than him and Dad was born in 1928."
Did you mean older? 1926 would make him older than your Dad
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