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ArgyllGran
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31 May 2018 21:53 |
Brother Albert Edward - his birth doesn't seem to show on GRO site:
Albert Edward Peace in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Albert Edward Peace Registration Year: 1903 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Burton upon Trent Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 455
His death:
Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%) PEACE Albert E 59 Burton 9b 57
I don't see a convincing marriage for him.
He was single in 1939 - if this is the right Albert - who's Mary Peace?:
Albert E Peace in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Albert E Peace Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 4 Feb 1903 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 19 Residence Place: Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England Occupation: Gen'l Labourer A R P Heavy Worker Schedule Number: 236 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: OLAS Registration district: 365-1 Household Members: Name Mary M Peace - widow, 25/11/1861 { I think the middle initial is J } Albert E Peace Lilian M Boshill - 05/03/1918, single, later married Gilbertson.
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ArgyllGran
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31 May 2018 22:18 |
PEACE, WILLIAM ENOCH mms COX GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 397
Possible death ?? [ EDIT: A tree on Ancestry agrees with this. DOB apparently 04/07/1907 ]
Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%) Peace William E 39 Leicester 3a 439
Possible marriage ??
Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%) BROOKS Clara R Peace Leicester 7a 428 Peace William E Brooks Leicester 7a 428
Clara's remarriage after William's death:
Clara R Peace in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Clara R Peace Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1947 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Spouse: Walter W R Green Volume Number: 3a Page Number: 1988
1939:
Clara R Peace in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Clara R Peace [Clara R Green] Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 6 Sep 1909 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 14.Longcliffe Road Residence Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Occupation: Paper Bag Maker Schedule Number: 381 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: REJY Registration district: 407-2. Inferred Spouse: William I Peace Inferred Children: Alan E Peace Household Members: Name William I Peace Clara R Peace Alan E Peace This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. David M Peace
There were 5 Peace/Brooks children born in Leicester 1929-38.
But none in Nottinghamshire area, and none called Robin or Robert.
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 22:31 |
sorry had to leave to look after dinner, but I see others have taken up the search. :-)
So if Robin had the name Peace, then we should be able to rule out all the sisters, unless he was born out of wedlock, would that be possible?
We can also rule out Arthur, of course, and by the looks of it also, Horace and John Henry.
so:-
Name: Levi Peace Registration Year: 1903 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Burton upon Trent ?? Name: Levi Peace Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1928 Registration district: Leicester Inferred County: Leicestershire Spouse: Beatrice M Measures Volume Number: 7a Page Number: 572
looks like only one child to this couple:-
Births Sep 1929 (>99%) Peace Raymond H Measures Leicester 7a 303
1939 Name: Levi Peace Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 19 Feb 1903 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 29 Andrewes Street Residence Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Occupation: Packer Rubber Coveing Factory Heavy Worker Schedule Number: 83 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: REUE Registration district: 407-3. Inferred Spouse: Beatrice M Peace Household Members: Name Levi Peace Beatrice M Peace plus one other,( closed record)
so doesn't look as though they had other children.
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 22:48 |
Are you sure that Robin's surname was Peace?
Is it possible that he was the son of one of the girls and so had another surname?
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 23:22 |
This looks to be Harriet married to Harry Stafford
1911 Name: Mrs Hariet Stafford Age in 1911: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Newhall Civil Parish: Beeston Search Photos: Search for 'Beeston' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street address: 3 Mill Yard Beeston Notts Registration district: Basford Registration District Number: 429 Sub-registration district: Beeston ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 20431 Household Members: Name Age Harry Stafford 24 Hariet Stafford 19
their possible children:- Births Dec 1911 (>99%) Stafford William L Peace Basford 7b 486 Births Sep 1913 (>99%) Stafford Claude H Peace Aston 6d 1006 Births Jun 1915 (>99%) Stafford Horace A Peace Burton 6b 739 Births Jun 1916 (>99%) Stafford Edna M Peace Burton 6b 642
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Catherine
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31 May 2018 23:22 |
off to bed now but will try and take another look tomorrow.
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 23:29 |
Hello Catherine
He definitely had the surname Peace. I used to work at a school and when he died I couldn't go to the funeral but my Dad went. When the obituary appeared in the local paper I noticed a lady's name who worked at the same place so I asked her if she was related and she said only by her sisters marriage. I told her my maiden name was Peace and she said well you'll know John Peace then and his wife Christine. I told her I had never heard of him and neither had my Dad. She said well he's related to Robin and he's the Sheriff on Nottingham. So in my quest I sent for John's birth certificate and discovered his parents names but then drew a blank.
I've just googled Robin Peace Warsop Vale and it seems there is a local history book that he is in and says that he played football for Nottingham Forest so I need to get one of those books to see if there is anymore information. That will be my first job tomorrow. I really appreciate your help. Thank you Sharon
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Riley54
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31 May 2018 23:33 |
Thank you ArgyllGran for all your information I will go through it tomorrow.
Sharon
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Dea
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1 Jun 2018 08:09 |
There is a photo of the above Sir John Peace here:
http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/lord-lieutenant
Dea x
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Riley54
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1 Jun 2018 08:27 |
Well I never! Thank you Dea
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AustinQ
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1 Jun 2018 08:42 |
and here!- he was born 1949 (not seeing a marriage for his parents): http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/lord-lieutenant/current
EDIT: Found marriage- mother, Alma, father, John W Peace- married 1946
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Riley54
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1 Jun 2018 08:57 |
James and Rosa Peace I have all the children listed apart from Albert Edward and I also have James Edward born 1904.
William Enoch and Clara Brooks I am in contact with my Dads cousin and these were her grandparents. She has never heard of Robin.
Levi and Beatrice Peace I visited them as a child with my family and I know they only had one son Raymond
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 09:33 |
John W & Alma's marriage is listed with the name spelled PeaRce .
Perhaps you need to buy a copy of the marriage cert, to find out John's father's name.
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Dea
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1 Jun 2018 09:38 |
I have been looking at this from 'Sherrif' John's angle but although I can see that he came from a coal mining family I can find his birth and mother's maiden name but nothing more ??
You say you have his birth cert, perhaps you could tell me the full details from that please which I might then be able to follow back?
As this person is still very much alive you should NOT put those details on here but perhaps you might click on my name and send them to me by private message?
Thanks,
Dea x
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 09:43 |
Connected??
John W Peace in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: John W Peace Mother's Maiden Name: Stretton Registration Year: 1913 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 151
Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) Peace George Burton 6b 674 Stretton Alice Burton 6b 674
George Peace in the 1911 England Census Name: George Peace Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire Civil Parish: Stanton and Newhall County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: 20 George Street, Newhall Marital Status: Married Years Married: 9 Estimated Marriage Year: 1902 Occupation: Collier Coal Getter Hewer Registration district: Burton upon Trent Registration District Number: 365 Sub-registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 98 Piece: 16779 Household Members: Name Age George Peace 30 Alice Peace 29 Francies Lilian Peace 9 Dorothy May Peace 7 George Enos Peace 5 Nellie Peace 11/12
George Peace in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 Name: George Peace Gender: Male Christening Date: 3 Apr 1881 Christening Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Father: Enos Peace Mother: Kate Peace
Enos Peace in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Enos Peace Gender: Male Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1880 Marriage Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England View this parish Father: George Peace Spouse: Kate Hoskison
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 09:45 |
Enos Peace in the 1891 England Census Name: Enos Peace Gender: Male Age: 31 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1860 Spouse: Kate Peace Child: George Peace John T Peace William Peace Fanny Peace Mary A Peace Lilly Peace Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Newhall Residence Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Sub registration district: Gresley ED, Institution or Vessel: 25 Neighbors: Piece: 2200 Folio: 115 Household Members: Name Age Enos Peace 31 Kate Peace 31 George Peace 10 John T Peace 8 William Peace 6 Fanny Peace 5 Mary A Peace 3 Lilly Peace 1
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1 Jun 2018 09:46 |
PEACE, ENOS mms MILLER GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 307
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Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%) Miller Ann Burton upon Trent 17 2 Peace George Burton upon Trent 17 2
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jun 2018 10:08 |
Here are George, Ann and Enos in 1861:
Enos Peace in the 1861 England Census Name: Enos Peace Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: 1860 Relation: Son Father's name: George Peace Mother's name: Ann Peace Gender: Male Where born: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Newhall Ecclesiastical parish: Newhall County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 66 Piece: 1963 Folio: 118 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age George Peace 38 Ann Peace 40 Thomas Peace 14 William Peace 12 Levi Peace 9 Sarah Peace 8 Harriet Peace 4 Eli Peace 3 Enos Peace 1 Mary Marsh 73
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1 Jun 2018 10:12 |
So Enos was a brother of Dermot's gr-grandfather James, whose parents were George and Ann.
James Peace in the 1871 England Census Name: James Peace Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Father's name: George Peace Mother's name: Ann Peace Gender: Male Where born: Newhall, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Newhall Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Registration district: Burton Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Gresley ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 58 Piece: 2902 Folio: 75 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age George Peace 48 Ann Peace 50 William Peace 20 Levi Peace 18 Eli Peace 14 Enos Peace 12 James Peace 7 Rachael Peace 5
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Riley54
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1 Jun 2018 10:13 |
Thank you ArgyllGran
There is a connection from George and Enos. I didn't have George's wife Alice and children so I can now add those.
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