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21 May 2018 10:23 |
I am looking for census info and any BMD info for the above CLARK family after 1891. This is the last census information I have been able to find.
William CLARK (blacking manufacturer - known addresses: 75 Baker Street, Marylebone, 4 Florence Terrace, Ealing, Middx, 528 Oxford Street, London and Ashton House, The Green, Ealing) b 16 Sep 1825 Andover, Hampshire m 26 Jun 1852 St. Marylebone, Middlesex - Charlotte Esther HEMPSON (1st wife) m 1 Sep 1862 St. Marylebone, Middlesex - Eliza Emma CHADWICK (2nd wife) d 6 Nov 1897 Brentford/Ealing Middlesex father: Joseph CLARK (horse dealer)\ mother: Sarah (no surname - could be GAMESON, but not sure)
If anyone can trace an online photo of any of the following c. 1897 that would be fantastic: - 528 Oxford Street, London - Ashton House, The Green Ealing, Middx
1st wife Charlotte Esther HEMPSON b 19 Aug 18245 Marylebone, Middlesex d Jan 1860 Marylebone, Middlesex father: Thomas Carter HEMPSON mother: Mary (no surname)
Children with 1st wife William Thomas CLARK b 3 Oct 1853 Marylebone, Middlesex (suspect he was a veterinary surgeon) Charlotte Ann CLARK b 4 Aug 1856 Marylebone, Middlesex EDIT: d Q3 1949 Folkestone, Kent (thanks to AustinQ) Albert Edward CLARK b 3 Feb 1858 Marylebone, Middlesex d 2 Apr 1858 Marylebone, Middlesex Marian Victoria CLARK b 15 Jan 1859 d Q4 1888 Brentford District, Middx
Looking for any census or BMD information on William Thomas CLARK and Charlotte Ann CLARK after 1881 census (I have them in 61/71/81). EDIT: Charlotte Ann CLARK now found married to Edward John PIDDUCK (thanks to AustinQ).
2nd wife Eliza Emma CHADWICK b 12 Dec 1839 Brighton, Sussex d Q1 1892 Brentford District, Middx father: Richard CHADWICK (newsagent/stationer) mother: Charlotte WHITE
Children with 2nd wife Emily Alexandra CLARK b 16 Apr 1863 Marylebone, Middx - looking for her after 1891 census Alfred Victor CLARK b 29 Jun 1864 d Q3 1867 Marylebone, Middx Hubert Richard CLARK b 8 Oct 1866 Marylebone, Middx d Sep 1867 Marylebone, Middx Percy CLARK b 11 Aug 1868 Marylebone, Middx - looking for him after 1891 census where he is stated to be an architect Horace CLARK c. 1870 Ealing, Middx - looking for him after 1891 census where he is stated to be an auctioneer Louise Eliza CLARK c Oct 1871 Brentford, Middx, bap. 18 Jan 1872 Christ Church, Ealing - looking for her after 1891 census where she is stated to be single Ernest CLARK c. 1873 Middx - looking for him after 1891 census where he is stated to be an electrical engineer Marjory CLARK c. 1876 Middx - looking for her after 1891 census (single) - EDIT: now found married to Ernest Arthur WILKINS (thanks to Shirley) Sydney CLARK c. 1876 Middx - looking for him after 1891 census (single) Cecil CLARK b Q4 1877 Brentford, Middx - looking for him after 1891 census (single) - EDIT: now found married to Clara Susannah HART 14 Feb 1899 Westminster, d. (thanks to AustinQ)
Census details I already have: 1861: 75 Baker Street, Marylebone, Middx Class: RG 9; Piece: 76; Folio: 70; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542569
1871: 4 Florence Terrace, Ealing, Middx Class: RG10; Piece: 1318; Folio: 21; Page: 36; GSU roll: 838783
1881: Ashton House, The Green Ealing, Middx Class: RG11; Piece: 1344; Folio: 55; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1341327
1891: Ashton House, The Green Ealing, Middx RG12; Piece: 1029; Folio: 109; Page: 18
Many thanks to anyone who can help me start to trace living descendants by finding the children 'married with children' in the 1901 census's or later.
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21 May 2018 10:44 |
Have you tried FreeBMD for possible marriages and looked for any of them on the 1939 register
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21 May 2018 10:49 |
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 No Image Text-only collection Report issue Name: Marian Victoria Clark Gender: Female Birth Date: 15 Jan 1859 Baptism Date: 6 Feb 1859 Baptism Place: Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road,St Marylebone,London,England Father: William Clark Mother: Charlotte Esther FHL Film Number: 580914, 580915, 580916
View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Marian Victoria Clark Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Registration Year: 1888 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 29 Registration district: Brentford Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 45
Edit ahh I see you have this. Missed it in all the text :-)
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21 May 2018 10:53 |
View 1891 England Census
Name: Marjory Clark Gender: Female Age: 14 Relationship: Daughter Birth Year: 1877 Father: William Clark Mother: Elza Emma Clark Birth Place: Ealing, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Ealing Residence Place: Ealing, Ealing, Middlesex, England Sub registration district: Brentford ED, Institution or Vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1029 Folio: 110 Household Members: Name Age William Clark 65 Elza Emma Clark 51 Emily Clark 27 Percy Clark 22 Hiram Clark 20 Ernest Clark 17 Lewis Clark 19 Marjory Clark 14 Cecil Clark 13 Arthur Cavendish 18 Ann Staude 50 Emily Richardson 24 Sarah Ann Staste 24 Mary Ann Simpard 20 Maria Botterman 35 Sarah Hocoflesh 27 Caroline Richardson 38
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21 May 2018 10:54 |
Marriage
Name: Marjory Clark Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Brentford Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Middlesex Volume: 3a Page: 158 Records on Page: Name Marjory Clark Gilbert George Haywood Caroline Amelia Jeeves Ernest Arthur Wilkins
Looks like she married Ernest Wilkins
View 1901 England Census View blank form Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Margorie Wilkins Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Ealing, London, England Civil Parish: Battersea Search Photos: Search for 'Battersea' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:married
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: East Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 441 Folio: 12 Page Number: 16 Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age Margorie Wilkins 24 Margorie Lillian Wilkins 4 Winefred Wilkins 2 Donald Wilkins 1 Irene Doughty 28
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21 May 2018 10:55 |
Hi Shirley,
Yes, have tried FreeBMD, but not coming up with anything definite as yet. And sorry for all the text, wanted to make sure I included as much info as I have as possible, in order to save people unnecessary searches.
Regards, Rebecca
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21 May 2018 10:59 |
Yes, Shirley, that's the 1891 census I have for the family.
I'll take a look at that marriage find you have to see if I can trace a Marjory HAYWOOD or Marjory WILKINS after 1896.
Looks like Gilbert George HAYWOOD married Caroline Amelia JEEVES:
Forename Surname Age Year Born Relation Birth Place Occupation Gilbert Haywood 27 1874 Head Ealing, Middlesex Decorator Paint Caroline Haywood 27 1874 Wife Madras, India Gilbert Haywood 4 1897 Son Ealing, Middlesex
I think this may be William Thomas CLARK b1853 in 1901 census: Class: RG13; Piece: 440; Folio: 116; Page: 9 Stated as veterinary surgeon, single, living with housekeeper in Battersea at 9 Park Mansions.
Thanks, Rebecca
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21 May 2018 11:07 |
Hi Shirley,
Thanks for the WILKINS census 1901. None of their children have names that appear in the CLARK family, but maybe they are from the WILKINS side. I will investigate to see if I can be certain this is the Marjory CLARK in my tree.
Thanks! Rebecca
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21 May 2018 11:13 |
I have posted the 1901 for Marjory she married Wilkins
Children's births
WILKINS, WINIFRED LOUIE CLARK GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 125
WILKINS, LILIAN MARJORY CLARK GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 80
Not seeing the boy Donald
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21 May 2018 11:18 |
Hi Shirley,
Found baptism record for Donald.
Donald Graham WILKINS 8 May 1900 Baptism Place Notting Hill St Mark Kensington and Chelsea, England
Still need to figure out where these names are coming from. The only one's that show in CLARK family are LOUISE and MARJORY so far.
Thanks, Rebecca
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21 May 2018 11:23 |
Got the WILKINS children in 1911 as visitors with a JENNINGS family.
Name: Winifred Edith Wilkins Age in 1911: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: North Kensington, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Willesden Search Photos: Search for 'Willesden' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 12 Station Road, Harlesden, Willesden N W Occupation: School Registration district: Willesden Registration District Number: 129 Sub-registration district: Willesden ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Household schedule number: 110 Piece: 7021 Household Members: Name Age George Jennings 43 Grace Jennings 46 Grace Jennings 6 Marjory Wilkins 14 Winifred Wilkins 12 Donald Wilkins 11
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21 May 2018 13:42 |
Marriage:
First name(s) CHARLOTTE ANNE Last name CLARK Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1884 Registration month - Spouse: Edward John Pidduck District Brentford County Middlesex Volume 3A Volume as transcribed 3A Page number 110 -------------------------------------
Morning Post 30 September 1884
PIDDUCK- CLARK On the 25th inst, at Christ Church Ealing, by the Rev J S Hillard, Edward John Pidduck of Hanley Staffordshire to Charlotte Ann, eldest daughter of W. Clark, Ashton House, Ealing, Middlesex -------------------------------------
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Gladstone Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Edward John Pidduck Head Married Male 33 1858 Staffordshire, England - Charlotte A Pidduck Wife Married Female 34 1857 London, Middlesex, England - Hannah M Pidduck Sister Single Female 44 1847 Staffordshire Living On Her Own Means -------------------------
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 11, Park Road, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire & Worcestershire, England
Edward J Pidduck Head Married Male 43 1858 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Jeweller & Goldsmith Silversmith & Watchmaker Charlotte A Pidduck Wife Married Female 44 1857 London, Middlesex, England - Marian A Pidduck Daughter - Female 9 1892 Hanley, Staffordshire, E- Eric W Pidduck Son - Male 7 1894 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daisy E Leadbetter Servant Single Female 17 1884 Silverdale, Staffordshire, Domestic Nurse Hannah Whitchurst Servant Single Female 24 1877 Kidsgrove, Staffordshire, General Servant Dom ---------------------------------
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription The Gables Albert Drive Trentham, Trentham, Staffordshire, England
Edward John Pidduck Head Married Male 53 1858 Hanley Staffs Goldsmith Silversmith Dealer Charlotte A Pidduck Wife Married Female 54 1857 London - Marian Alice Pidduck Daughter Single Female 19 1892 Hanley Staffs - Francis Young General Servant Domestic Single Female 27 1884 Cotes Staffre General Servant Dom ---------------------------
1939 register (confirming Charlotte's DOB):
Pidduck Household (4 People) 88 Shorncliffe Road , Folkestone M.B., Kent, England
Charlotte A Pidduck 04 Aug 1858 Female Private Means Widowed Marian A Warrington 24 Jan 1892 Female Chauffeur Married Bertha F Hyland 14 Mar 1907 Female Cook Single 210 3 Lilian F Matthews (Sutton) 19 Apr 1921 Female Housemaid Single
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21 May 2018 15:44 |
Thanks AustinQ - another great find! Hopefully now getting closer to living relations.
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21 May 2018 18:43 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Glencairn 7 Belmont Street Bognor Sussex, Bognor, Sussex, England
Sidney Wellbeloved Head Married Male 46 1865 Stokenewington London Jurnman Butcher Agnes Wellbeloved Wife Married Female 48 1863 Fareham Hants Sidney William Wellbeloved Son - Male 11 1900 Paddington London School Hilda Agnes Wellbeloved Daughter - Female 10 1901 Shepherd Bush London School Violet Wellbeloved Daughter - Female 8 1903 Chiswick Mid London - Percy Clark Lodger Married Male 42 1869 Ealing Middlesex Architect Surveyor
(it's crossed through, but Percy is stated as married 7 years, 1 child living) --------------------------------------
Just to note- his marriage was NOT the 1903 Wandsworth marriage to Gertrude E Coombes. Nor was it the 1903 Southwark marriage to Ruth Parker
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21 May 2018 19:16 |
Marriage: Name: Cecil Clark (manufacturer) Gender: Male Marriage Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1878 Marriage Date: 14 Feb 1899 Marriage Place: St John's Wood St Mark, Westminster, England Father: William Clark (deceased) Spouse: Clara Susannah Hart Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: W T Clark, C A Schofield, Beatrice ? Thomas -------------------------------------------
Cecil may have travelled abroad due to work. This is his wife and family 1901/ 1911:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 7, Lisson Grove, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England
Emma B Hart Head Married Female 28 1873 Plymouth, Devon, England Vocalist Susannah Hutchings Aunt Single Female 60 1841 Kellaton, Devon, England Living On Means Clara S Clark Sister Married Female 20 1881 Bournemouth, Hampshire, Living On Means William E Clark Nephew - Male 1 1900 Twickenham, Middlesex, England - Charles E Clark Nephew - Male 0 1901 Kensington, Middlesex, England ------------------------------
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 18 Western Lane Balham S W, Wandsworth Borough, London & Surrey, England
Clara Susannah Clark Head Married Female 30 1881 Bournemouth Hants Vocalist William Edmund Cecil Clark Son - Male 11 1900 Twickenham Surrey School Charles Edward Vi Clark Son - Male 10 1901 London Bayswater School Susanna Burgoyne Hutchings Aunt Single Female 71 1840 Kellaton Devon Home Duties --------------------------------------
In view of his wife's occupation I wondered if this was Cecil in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 16 Darley St Farnworth, Farnworth, Lancashire, England
Cecil Clark Lodger - Male 34 1877 Middlesex Music Hall Manager
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21 May 2018 19:26 |
Confirming above marriage is correct for Cecil, this is RAF record for his brother Sydney, who gives his next of kin as Clara Susannah Clark (friend).
name(s) Sydney Graham Clark Birth date 20 Apr 1875 Occupation Taxi Proprietor Attestation year 1917 Attestation date 14 Mar 1917 Attestation age 41 Service number 66883 Person to be informed of casualties: Clara Susannah Clark (friend), 2 Hazelwood Mansions, Fulham. Address on discharge: 81 Cambridge Gardens, North Kensington -------------------------------
Birth: CLARK, SYDNEY GRAHAM (mother's maiden name: CHADWICK) GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 81
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21 May 2018 20:43 |
Thanks AustinQ! This is great. I will work with these details tomorrow. Thanks so much.
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22 May 2018 06:42 |
Emily was still single in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 80 Holland Park Avenue Notting Hill W, Kensington, London & Middlesex, England
Emily Alexandra Clark Head Single Female 47 1864 London Marylebone Confectioners Draper -----------------------------
Emily is listed on the electoral register at same address until at least 1915.
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22 May 2018 07:44 |
Thanks again AustinQ! Have you been able to find anything on Louise Eliza b1871 by any chance?
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22 May 2018 08:23 |
I'll take a look in minute, just wanted to get this down first:
Although his age is a little out, think this could be Horace in 1901:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 31, Carlton Vale, Paddington, London & Middlesex, England
George Brookes Head Married Male 58 1843 London, Middlesex, England Actor Annie Brookes Wife Married Female 58 1843 London, Middlesex, England - Edwin Brookes Son Single Male 25 1876 London, Middlesex, Hairdressers Assistant Florrie Brookes Daughter Single Female 22 1879 London, Middlesex, England - Lottie Brookes Daughter Married Female 21 1880 London, Middlesex, Actress George Brookes Son Single Male 20 1881 London, Middlesex, England Clerk Commercial Percy Brookes Son Single Male 19 1882 London, Middlesex, Clerk Commercial Daisy Brookes Daughter Single Female 16 1885 London, Middlesex, England - Harry Brookes Son Single Male 13 1888 London, Middlesex, England - Horace Clark Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1873 Ealing, Middlesex, Clerk Commercial Gerald Stevens Nephew Single Male 19 1882 Southend, Essex, Clerk Commercial Valentine Stevens Nephew Single Male 13 1888 London, Middlesex, England - Sybil Stevens Niece Single Female 4 1897 London, Middlesex, England - William Mousley Visitor Single Male 70 1831 London, Middlesex, England Artist ----------------------------------------
Horace married Chalotte Eliza Brookes in 1895
This is Charlotte in 1911- but can't see Horace...yet. I'll return to this later if I get time.
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 319 Scott Ellis Gardens Marylebone N W, St Marylebone, London & Middlesex, England
Albert Ford Head Single Male 25 1886 London Commercial Traveller Pickles Sauces Etc Edwin Brookes Lodger Single Male 38 1873 St Marylebone Hairdresser Charlotte Eliza Clark Sister Married Female 29 1882 St Marylebone
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