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15 May 2018 16:07 |
I’m trying to trace the parents of my great grandmother Edith Williment who married Wilson May on 26/9/1892. I found a B.Cert for Edith 1871 born Norwich and I contacted the GRO to obtain it: Vol 4b, Page 156, Qtr 2 but they have been unable to find it. The marriage certificate shows her father to be Jacob Williment a labourer. The marriage taking place in Newcastle upon Tyne. As I can’t get her B.Cert I don’t know her mother’s name. The 1861 census shows a Jacob Williment who is a labourer in Norwich with a wife Sophia. Unfortunately Edith is not on this Census as she’s not yet born. I can’t find Jacob Williment on either the 1881 or the 1891 census and therefore can’t make a link with the Jacob I’ve found. Anyone with any advice? Thanks in advance.
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15 May 2018 16:11 |
The certificate you tried to order is shown on the GRO website so should be available ? but 1869 not 1871
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: WILLIMENT, EDITH COSSEY Order GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 156
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15 May 2018 16:11 |
England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription Learn more
Print View image Add to tree First name(s) GEORGE Last name WILLIMENT Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1862 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ GEORGE WILLIMENT married one of these people Elizabeth Whall, Ann Phoebe Cossey District Norwich District number - County Norfolk Country England Volume 4B Volume as transcribed 4B Page number 180
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15 May 2018 16:25 |
Here it says Edith was born South Shields
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 75, Shipley Street, Newcastle upon Tyne, Byker, Northumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Wilson May Head Married Male 31 1870 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Corporation Cartman Edith May Wife Married Female 28 1873 South Shields, Durham, England - Thomas May Son - Male 7 1894 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England - Matthew May Son - Male 4 1897 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England - Maggie L May Daughter - Female 1 1900 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England -
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order: MAY, MATTHEW WILLAMENT Order GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 90
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greyghost
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15 May 2018 16:28 |
The marriage you refer to -
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
First name(s) Edith Last name Williment Name note - Age 21 Marriage year 1892 Marriage date 26 Sep 1892 Marriage place Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Father's first name(s) Jacob Father's last name Williment Spouse's first name(s) Wilson Spouse's last name May Spouse's birth year 1869 Spouse's birth date 1869 Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Spouse's father's last name May Residence Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England County Northumberland Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
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greyghost
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15 May 2018 16:30 |
And here born Newcastle
Married 18 years. 4 children born and still living1911
England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 90 Warwick Street Heaton Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Heaton, Northumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation Wilson May Head Married Male 41 1870 Newcastle Northumberland Cartman Edith May Wife Married Female 38 1873 Newcastle Northumberland - Thomas May Son Single Male 17 1894 Newcastle Northumberland Grocer Assistant Matthew May Son - Male 14 1897 Newcastle Northumberland Milk Boy Maggie May Daughter - Female 11 1900 Newcastle Northumberland School George Wilson May Son - Male 8 1903 Newcastle Northumberland School
----------------------------------- MAY, GEORGE WILSON WILLIMENT Order GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 172
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15 May 2018 16:35 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Church Street, Paul, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print View image Add to tree Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Jacob Williment Head Married Male 27 1834 Brick Layer Labourer Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Sophia Williment Wife Married Female 27 1834 Tailoress Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Hannah Williment Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Maria Williment Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Norwich, Norfolk, England
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15 May 2018 16:40 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 58, Ber Street, Norwich St John Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation George Williment Head Married Male 39 1842 Norwich, Norfolk, England General Outfitter Employ 2 Men 1 Boy Ann P Williment Wife Married Female 40 1841 Norwich, Norfolk, England General Outfitter Wife Ellen Williment Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Norwich, Norfolk, England General Outfitter Daur Edith Williment Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar George J Williment Son Single Male 7 1874 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar Albert Williment Son Single Male 0 1881 Norwich, Norfolk, England -
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greyghost
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15 May 2018 17:09 |
Norfolk Edith in London in 1891 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Private House, East Avenue, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation George Williment Head Married Male 44 1847 Norfolk, England Commercial Traveller Ann Phobe Williment Wife Married Female 53 1838 Norfolk, England - Edith Williment Daughter Single Female 23 1868 Norfolk, England Board School Teacher Albert Williment Son - Male 10 1881 Norwich, Norfolk, England Scholar ? Elizth ? Badcock Boarder Single Female 28 1863 Salisbury, Wiltshire, England Board School Teacher Emily Eliza ? Domestic Servant Single Female 25 1866 Essex, England Domestic General Servant
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 14:12 |
These are the parents of the child born in Norwich
Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%) Cossey Ann Phoebe Norwich 4b 180 S Williment George Norwich 4b 180
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 14:14 |
Name: Jacob Willement Gender: Male Age: 20 Birth Date: 1834 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1854 Marriage Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England Father: John Willement Spouse: Sophia Jury (Jeary on other records) Spouse Father: Saul Jury
WILLEMENT, EDITH ELIZA JARY GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 104
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 14:22 |
Name: Jacob Willemont Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's name: John Willemont Mother's name: Elizth Willemont Gender: Male Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Norwich St Clement Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: Coslany ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 7 Piece: 1812 Folio: 20 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age John Willemont 43 Elizth Willemont 45 Jacob Willemont 16 Maria Willemont 14 Joseph Willemont 8
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 14:27 |
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Name: Jacob Williment Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sophia Williment Gender: Male Where born: Norwich Civil Parish: Norwich St Paul County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: East Wymer ED, institution, or vessel: 3h Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Piece: 1212 Folio: 63 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Jacob Williment 27 Sophia Williment 27 Hannah Williment 4 Maria Williment 1
1871 for 'Hannah'
Name: Ann Willinent Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Norwich, St George Civil Parish: Norwich Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: East Wymer ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 51 Piece: 1810 Folio: 84 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Louisa Jary 60 Ann Willinent 14
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 15:44 |
WILLEMENT, LOUISA JARY Order GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 167
WILLIMENT, MARIA JARY Order GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 123
WILLIMENT, ELIZABETH JARY Order GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 114
WILLIMENT, GEORGE JARY Order GRO Reference: 1864 S Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 128
WILLIMENT, ALICE JEARY Order GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 138
WILLMENT, ELLEN RUTH JARY Order GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 132
WILLEMENT, MEGGIE JARY Order GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE Volume 10B Page 118
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 16:03 |
Name: Saul Jary Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1808 Burial Date: 7 Apr 1847 Burial Place: Norwich, St Stephen, Norfolk, England Parish as it Appears: St Stephen's
Name: Saul Jary Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 Jul 1808 Birth Place: Freethorpe, Norfolk, England Father: Edward Jary Mother: Anne Baker
1841 census Name: Saul Sary [Saul Jary] Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Norfolk, England Civil Parish: St Stephen Hundred: Norwich County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: Mancroft Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 791 Book: 3 Folio: 12 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Saul Sary 30 Louisa Sary 30 Sophia Sary 6 Ann Sary 2
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ErikaH
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16 May 2018 16:07 |
Name: Ann Jary Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Norwich St Clement Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: Coslany ED, institution, or vessel: 2a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 15 Piece: 1812 Folio: 20 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Charlesworth 47 Elizth Charlesworth 49 Ann Charlesworth 14 Louisa Jary 40 Sophia Jary 16 Ann Jary 11 George Jary 9 William Jary 7 Maria Jary 4
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KathleenBell
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16 May 2018 17:50 |
Pretty sure ErikaH has got it right.
This is your great grandmother's birth:-
First name(s) EDITH ELIZA Last name WILLEMENT Birth year 1872 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District Newcastle upon Tyne County Northumberland Country England Volume 10B Page 104 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
and her parent's marriage:-
First name(s) JACOB Last name WILLEMENT Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1854 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ JACOB WILLEMENT married one of these people Susan Clarke, >>>>>>>Sophia Jary<<<<<<<, Georgianna Austin District Norwich District number - County Norfolk Country England Volume 4B Volume as transcribed 4B Page number 326 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Great Britain, England
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16 May 2018 18:27 |
Marriage entry Report an Error in Transcription Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Norfolk Place (with link) Norwich Church name (with link) St Clement Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 283 Marriage date 25 Dec 1854 Groom forename Jacob Groom surname WILLEMENT Groom age 20 Groom condition Bachelor Groom occupation Baker Bride forename Sophia Bride surname JARY Bride age 20 Bride condition Spinster Bride occupation Tailoress Groom father forename John Groom father surname WILLEMENT Groom father occupation Dyer Bride father forename Saul Bride father surname JARY Bride father occupation Miller Witness1 forename Charles Witness1 surname ARNUP Witness2 forename Anna Witness2 surname CHARLESWORTH Transcribed by Tony Widdows Credit Tony Widdows File line number 285
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16 May 2018 18:32 |
Marriage entry Report an Error in Transcription Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Norfolk Place (with link) Heigham Church name (with link) St Bartholomew Register type (with link) Bishop's Transcripts Marriage date 27 Aug 1833 Groom forename Saul Groom surname JARY Groom condition Single Groom abode Heigham Bride forename Louisa Bride surname HAWKES Bride condition Single Bride abode Heigham Witness1 forename John Witness1 surname BEEVOR Witness2 forename Elizabeth Witness2 surname SMITH Notes Groom signed his name; Bride signed her name; Married by Banns Transcribed by Julie Harold Credit Barb Jones File line number 1171
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16 May 2018 19:00 |
Marriage entry Report an Error in Transcription Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Norfolk Place (with link) Freethorpe Church name (with link) All Saints Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 66 Marriage date 12 Aug 1800 Groom forename Edward Groom surname JARY Groom condition Widower Bride forename Ann Bride surname BAKER Bride parish Acle Bride condition Spinster Witness1 forename G Witness1 surname BAKER Witness2 forename Ann Maria Witness2 surname BAKER Notes By Licence Transcribed by Julie Harold File line number 242
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